The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 70

[Sharkboy]

Originally Posted by DKDetective

Yeah, I REALLY do not understand all the complaints about this trailer being underwhelming. It is ridiculously epic and dramatic. This is an aging hero at the end of his rope about to face his biggest challenge.

I do, it's pretty simple, disregarding all the idiot fanboys who want it to fail so they can validate their respective fandoms. Some people just don't like the idea of a comic book film taking itself too seriously, take the Avengers, it's the perfect idea for the general comic book movie fan of how one should be done, yet what most of them forget is that, It wasn't the action nor humour that made Avengers great, it was the time and effort Joss Whedon spent crafting each character, their dialog and interactions.

Superficial comic book accuracy does nothing for a film, ask Joel Schumacher and Martin Campbell, and intense action scenes does even less, ask Bay and his Transformers. What matters is all the stuff in between, and this TDKR trailer and Chris Nolan know this more than anyone and has created a film that doesn't label comic book fans or pigeonhole us into one subcategory, we aren't comic book fans to Chris we are simply film fans like everyone else, and he treats us all on the same level, never talking down to us or compromising, personally I prefer this, but it's just not for everyone, and i respect that.

[Greens]

I've only slept for 4 hours. I see I have some posts to catch up with.

[Octoberist]

While people are entitled to their opinions, and the ones who can back them up are cool, there are some who are confusing 'underwhelming' with 'understated'. And perhaps, and yes it's a rib, they're not the most constructive type. (i.e. emotional immature)

[lililatigresse]

Just saw the trailer. It's almost perfect, if only they had left out the last Catwoman/Batman dialogue! It totally killed the epicness of that trailer

[Blue Sugar]

Hearing Bale's Batman again is lovely.

"Not everything. Not yet" gives me chills and "This isn't a car" makes me smile.

[Blue Sugar]

Originally Posted by lililatigresse

Just saw the trailer. It's almost perfect, if only they had left out the last Catwoman/Batman dialogue

Wha, but that's the best part! And then that barrel-roll, makes me wanna throw my fist in the air.

[Vengeance of Bane]

Just woke up. Downloaded the trailer and watch the first time on my high def tv and all I can say is holy**** that was ****ing amazing!

[DKDetective]

Originally Posted by Blue Sugar

Hearing Bale's Batman again is lovely.

"Not everything. Not yet" gives me chills and "This isn't a car" makes me smile.

It sounds like a good blend of the Begins and TDK voices.

[Boom]

And now the long, painful wait for the international trailer .

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by lililatigresse

Just saw the trailer. It's almost perfect, if only they had left out the last Catwoman/Batman dialogue! It totally killed the epicness of that trailer

Agree, I start laughing every time I see that cop's hat levitating above his head.

It's not bad, just shifting the mood radically.

[Doctor Who]

So... Christopher Judge looks like one of Bane's men..... but his armor looks a tiny bit more different from the rest however.

[lililatigresse]

Originally Posted by Blue Sugar

Wha, but that's the best part! And then that barrel-roll, makes me wanna throw my fist in the air.

You're serious? That was so dumb

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by lililatigresse

You're serious? That was so dumb

No, lack of sense of humour is dumb. No offence.

[Sharkboy]

The barrel roll was intense, is my eyesight failing me or was he evading rockets?

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

The barrel roll was intense, is my eyesight failing me or was he evading rockets?

it looked like he was. or maybe Batman was the one shooting the rockets.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

The barrel roll was intense, is my eyesight failing me or was he evading rockets?

I think, yes. Considering the fact that camo tumblers have rocket launchers.

[DKDetective]

Originally Posted by lililatigresse

You're serious? That was so dumb

It was perfect Batman-Catwoman banter. Your sensibilities are obviously like Batman's - hence his deadpan, serious response. The whole point is that Catwoman is different. She is the laugh in the face of death type. Granted, the way they edited it in the trailer to be the introduction to the money shot of the Bat was typical Hollywood cheese - but I don't care. They had to put something in there for Joe Blow and I enjoyed it in a guilty pleasure sort of way. Obviously, it will be different in film.

[Octoberist]

Originally Posted by lililatigresse

You're serious? That was so dumb

how was it dumb? Sometimes it's hard to gauge fans because of their fickleness.

[OutOfBoose]

After 50th watch of the trailer, I think, I have noticed something.

There's a scene with Catwoman behind the bars. There's also the shot with Batman, who turns his head from the bars and sees Bane. So, it's probably Catwoman lured him into the trap. Hence the dialog between her and Blake "Did they kill him?" "I'm not sure".

[craigdbfan]

It's funny I was just thinking how Bane is actually making some of the same mistakes (or choices rather) Batman/Wayne did in Begins.

Bane is letting Wayne live, just like Wayne did with Ra's. Obviously they're doing it for different reasons with Batman doing it out of a sense of respect & compassion while Bane just wants to make this as agonizingly painful for Batman as possible.

But the major similarity will lie when Batman returns to Gotham. I really hope he says a line along the lines of "You should have killed me when you had the chance".

Bane in this shot isn't looking quite as much in control as he does in previous shots. Batman is starting to get to him at this point I think.



History doesn't repeat itself but it sure does rhyme.

[lililatigresse]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

No, lack of sense of humour is dumb. No offence.

No offence??! Yes, I do find it offensive that they put that stupid and cheesy as hell dialogue in the end of one of the most dramatic and epic trailers I've ever seen!

[Sharkboy]

I know people have given the added weightiness of Bane's voice some flack, but I have to admit when i first heard it in this trailer, it made me uncomfortable...which is probably the desired effect.

[TheFuture]

Originally Posted by Blue Sugar

Hearing Bale's Batman again is lovely.

"Not everything. Not yet" gives me chills and "This isn't a car" makes me smile.

I had a **** yeah moment when I heard that.

[DKDetective]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

After 50th watch of the trailer, I think, I have noticed something.

There's a scene with Catwoman behind the bars. There's also the shot with Batman, who turns his head from the bars and sees Bane. So, it's probably Catwoman lured him into the trap. Hence the dialog between her and Blake "Did they kill him?" "I'm not sure".

Yeah, I noticed that too and mentioned it a few pages back. I don't know if she lured him, but I get the sense that she was involved in Bane's plans, was there when Batman got beat, and then when she realized that Bruce was Batman after he was unmasked, her entire world went upside down. I think you can see it in her face as she backs away from the bars.

[lililatigresse]

Originally Posted by DKDetective

It was perfect Batman-Catwoman banter. Your sensibilities are obviously like Batman's - hence his deadpan, serious response. The whole point is that Catwoman is different. She is the laugh in the face of death type. Granted, the way they edited it in the trailer to be the introduction to the money shot of the Bat was typical Hollywood cheese - but I don't care. They had to put something in there for Joe Blow and I enjoyed it in a guilty pleasure sort of way. Obviously, it will be different in film.

Yeah, sorry I'm no Joe Blow. That's the problem of my life!