Earth 2 (It's like Earth, but 2)

[Phaedrus45]

Seeing Robinson's name on the cover, I pretty much knew what I was getting. An okay story, but not one that will ever blow me away. It was very reminiscent of his time on Justice Society, which I came close to cancelling. (What stopped me? I heard the book was going to end anyway when the New 52 came around.) We do get some spectacular deaths from major characters; but, I saw that recently enough in DC Online Legends.

The best scene is when Batman dies, telling Robin (female version, always a popular gimmick, and his daughter) to get away. (Hmm, maybe Damien just had a sex change operation.)

This is very much an old school DC book (old school, as in before the New 52). If you miss that, I think you'll like the book. Personally, I think I might skip it after issue 3 or 4. (I try to give a book a couple issue to try and win me over.)

[SuperFerret]

Originally Posted by Shazam

And that's a good thing??

Yes. It is. How old are you that you think that someone being driven to achieve their personal goals is a bad thing?

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by HighFivingMF

Having a modern college-aged character acting like a modern college-aged character?

Don't be coy....you know what I talkin' about! The cruel way she treated him.....the way she talked.....the way she used him for her own needs.

And what's modern got to do with this? We still have people in this "modern day" who believe in virtue. Some of them are college kids. That's never out of style. Being kind is never out of style.

The irony is that those that thing nothing was wrong with her actions , don't want to be treated that way themselves.

[Hush]

I thought that interpretation was nice, seeing as the one problem I have always had with DC seemed to be the hunky dory relationships aside from a few select characters. It adds a real world perspective to DC's books and it was nice to see that a character will have to work for a relationship for once.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Hush

I thought that interpretation was nice, seeing as the one problem I have always had with DC seemed to be the hunky dory relationships aside from a few select characters. It adds a real world perspective to DC's books and it was nice to see that a character will have to work for a relationship for once.

Are you saying that relationships built on respect, love, trust and decency is not "REAL WORLD"??? And believe me, there's "work" in any relationship....even the good ones.

The problem I have with this New 52 is that nobody seems to be just a good person!
Billy Batson isn't a good kid.....Freddie Freeman is a pick pocket, Koriandar is a sex toy, Lois is sleeping around,

Thank goodness for Mera and Arthur....so far.

I just hate that this young genration's first introduction to this classic heroes will be this distorted version.

[Hush]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Are you saying that relationships built on respect, love, trust and decency is not "REAL WORLD"??? And believe me, there's "work" in any relationship....even the good ones.

The problem I have with this New 52 is that nobody seems to be just a good person!
Billy Batson isn't a good kid.....Freddie Freeman is a pick pocket, Koriandar is a sex toy, Lois is sleeping around,

Thank goodness for Mera and Arthur....so far.

I just hate that this young genration's first introduction to this classic heroes will be this distorted version.

I know that good relationships are in the real world I was just pointing out that what happened to Jay happens in relationships and that he has some work ahead of him, if it starts out perfect why bother even exploring it?

As for your other points, character flaws are a bad thing now? I mean with new attitudes and tendencies more story potential can be mined from these characters that are classics, it happens with fictional literary characters all the time and hell it happens with Comic Book characters the most only thing is it came with new #1's this time.

[HighFivingMF]

Lois is such a ****, sleeping around with that one person.

[WompuM]

Originally Posted by Phaedrus45

Seeing Robinson's name on the cover, I pretty much knew what I was getting. An okay story, but not one that will ever blow me away. It was very reminiscent of his time on Justice Society, which I came close to cancelling. (What stopped me? I heard the book was going to end anyway when the New 52 came around.)

That was his Justice League run. We were talking about his Justice Society run from the 1990s. I don't see how this is reminiscent of his recent JLA work at all.

We do get some spectacular deaths from major characters; but, I saw that recently enough in DC Online Legends.

. . . in a non-canonical video game tie-in comic.

The best scene is when Batman dies, telling Robin (female version, always a popular gimmick, and his daughter) to get away. (Hmm, maybe Damien just had a sex change operation.)

There have been two female Robins. Once in the mid 80's for a mini-series and one in the early 00's. Not sure how popular of a gimmick that is.

This is very much an old school DC book (old school, as in before the New 52). If you miss that, I think you'll like the book. Personally, I think I might skip it after issue 3 or 4. (I try to give a book a couple issue to try and win me over.)

I'm not sure I would ever call 8 months ago "old school." I would say this comic is old school in that it resembles books from ~20 years ago.

[Hush]

It definately is reminiscent of pre-infinite Crisis, you know when continuity was used and the universe felt shared. Before all the Johns retcons.

[WompuM]

I never got why there wasn't just a DC Universe book. I suppose that's what they tried to do with Countdown, so . . . nevermind.

[SuperFerret]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Are you saying that relationships built on respect, love, trust and decency is not "REAL WORLD"??? And believe me, there's "work" in any relationship....even the good ones.

You're one of those people who jump to conclusions that because one character is portrayed a certain way, that all characters from a similar background (in this case, people in relationships) are and/or will be portrayed in that manner, I assume.

Am I correct?

Here's the cool thing about the "REAL WORLD". There's a lot of variety. There are a lot of good relationships, there are a lot of bad relationships, there are a lot of long relationships, there are a lot of short flings, etc.

Don't jump to a conclusion because of a short scene that may or may not be the whole story.





Wait. Disregard that last sentence, I forgot this was the internet for a moment. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to write DC Comics a letter about how I'm outraged that they portray black people as wanting to get revenge on Aquaman.

[Lead Cenobite]

I had no idea they were planning on killing off the "Trinity" (I never liked that name for some reason). And the sad thing is, Superman's costume in some ways actually looks better than the mainstream suit, and it's not even going to be used anymore.

Btw, what exactly did the Parademons do to Superman? What were those cables going into his face and why did he explode?

[WompuM]

I believe everyone was surprised by their demise.

And I think one of the parademons was a kamakaze of sorts. It was ticking like a bomb in the preceding panels.

[Phaedrus45]

Originally Posted by WompuM

That was his Justice League run. We were talking about his Justice Society run from the 1990s. I don't see how this is reminiscent of his recent JLA work at all.

Yeah, I had Society in my mind. Just a typo. What I mean by reminscent is his writing style just doesn't wow me. Like Simone's work on Wonder Woman, while it told an okay story, it never made me die to read the next issue. I would constantly have back issues in my "must read" pile, and many other comics came before it. It wasn't the worst comic DC was putting out; but, that's not much of an endorsement.

. . . in a non-canonical video game tie-in comic.

Yet, it presented the same scenario recently. In my mind, I just had this kind of comic with this same type of beginning. (And, it's another comic, that while it didn't suck, it wasn't anything great.) It doesn't matter than it's based on a video game, or is "non-canonical." (And, with the New 52, are many of those stories "non-canonical" now? Just as people griped about Brand New Day with Spidey, we get a whole universe where the reader can't be sure what's important and what isn't about what came before.)



[quoteThere have been two female Robins. Once in the mid 80's for a mini-series and one in the early 00's. Not sure how popular of a gimmick that is.[/quote]

Popular gimmick, being having a mostly-thought-of-as-male character turned female. I know about the previous Robins; but, I'm thinking more of ALL the male characters tried to make fresh by turning them female (i.e. Female Bullseye and the rest).

I'm not sure I would ever call 8 months ago "old school." I would say this comic is old school in that it resembles books from ~20 years ago.

My old school quote was a jab at the New 52, where everything that came before is now Old 52 ... or however many books there was. It's why I made sure I even explained my old school reference. Sure, it could be called a bad joke; but, it means that it's what DC seemed to be trying to get away from with the New 52.


Now, the reason I came back to this thread: While I didn't appreciate Earth 2 as much as others here did, I did like World's Finest. It made me glad I picked up Earth 2, as it gave me the back story on how Robin (now Huntress) and Supergirl (now Power Woman) show up in the regular DC universe. I also appreciated that we've gone 5 years into the future, keeping them up-to-date. (A big problem I have with the New 52 is how so many titles jump around. We are getting new origins, of which I didn't even realize the events in Earth 2 happen about the same time as Justice League #1, five years in the past.)

[Phaedrus45]

OH, and my other complaint about this book. I'm tired of "hordes of (boring) enemies" attacking various heroes. It's why I got bored with ninjas at Marvel. I'm not sure if I'm just making a mountain out of a mole hill; but, it seems like many of the New 52 is centered around lame villians who just have a vast army of people to attack for them. Heck, I'm loving the new Batman Night Of The Owls, but it's like revisiting Daredevil's Shadowland again, where instead of ninjas we have a vast army of masked owls. I want classic villians. Where have all the classic villians gone?? (Or, at least a DC classic villian who isn't Starro.)

[Anubis]

I thought it was boring.

[TheCorpulent1]

At least the Court of Owls have a nice gimmick going for them. Owl themes throughout time. Ninjas just wear black pajamas.

[Phaedrus45]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

At least the Court of Owls have a nice gimmick going for them. Owl themes throughout time. Ninjas just wear black pajamas.

True. Plus, a good writer makes a premise much better. Batman has been great; but, after reading Batwing, I feel the total opposite. It's other complaint I have about the New 52. Why do so many of these books have to tie into other titles. I'm getting the feeling that the Night Of The Owl tie-ins will be just a Bat-character fighting masked owls to save some Gotham figure. None of them will be important to the main storyline.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's what I always figured they would be. Hell, they even loaned one of Batman's comics to Tim Drake for it, just so he'd have an issue where he could fight a Talon all by himself without those pesky Teen Titans clamoring for their own Talons.

[superman-mos]

I don't know if anyone has seen this but I found it at the green lantern message board. Its Alans new look

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I'm really liking it. I thought I could make out a cape in the preview for Earth 2 #3...maybe I was wrong. I like Alans old look but I not against change and I'm loving the new 52. It has its problembs but so did the old dc. Plus the orginal jsa looks were really dated. I'm liking the updated looks.

[superman-mos]

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[superman-mos]

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/...=19388&page=14

Maybe this link will work

[Lunar_Wolf]

Good issue. Could have done more with Jay and Alan.

[Kurosawa]

That Alan redesign isn't bad, but it's generic. If he had a cape and the shirt was red it would be better. Still better than that crap Jay is wearing.

Wonder what Al will get for a costume? I always liked his second costume best.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Originally Posted by Kurosawa

That Alan redesign isn't bad, but it's generic. If he had a cape and the shirt was red it would be better. Still better than that crap Jay is wearing.

Wonder what Al will get for a costume? I always liked his second costume best.

A cape would be boss.