The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 73

[CapedCrusader14]

Watching all the characters together finally was something pretty special.

[craigdbfan]

Originally Posted by Solidus

I think next weekend, I believe someone said that Inception had TV Spots around 5/10/10 and TDK had it's first few on 5/12/08 So I figure maybe next weekend? But I would love this weekend.

Hmm seeing as TDKR has been following TDK marketing footstep it'll probably be next weekend.

Shoot.

Hopefully we'll get a nice poster in between then and now. A Catwoman poster would be great.

[jmc]

I'd say it embraces it's genre more than anything else. Transcends? From an action perspective perhaps but as a whole? Eh, that's a stretch.

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by Primordial Soup

Avengers had zero plot and character development. If that's what makes a comic-book movie, then I agree Chris Nolan's movie is anything but.

If you believe that, you weren't paying attention.

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by jmc

I'd say it embraces it's genre more than anything else. Transcends? From an action perspective perhaps but as a whole? Eh, that's a stretch.

That scene where the team argues under Loki's influence rivals some of the tenser scenes in TDK.

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow_King

Have you seen any other cohesive, connected movie universes? I haven't.

Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and Clerks 2 are all in the same universe and have intertwining characters and elements.

Not that I don't like what Avengers is doing. It's just not the first time a bunch of movies shared the same universe.

[Sharkboy]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

So anybody want to venture a guess as to when we will start seeing the T.V spots for TDKR?

I'm going to guess this weekend.

I think the first tv spot for TDK was May 13th? if im not mistaken, so yeah give it a week or two.

Originally Posted by Excelsior.

Nolan's Batmans are also fantastic comic adaptations. Avengers also look to transcend the genre for the first time by bringing different heroes together in a singular film.

I never ever felt that to be special, not when every film in the MCU felt like a prequel to an already announced film. Avengers felt a culmination at best, but never something envelope pushing. Maybe because instead of teaming up characters, they should have focused on building seperate franchises first.

If they really want to impress, they should get their legal team working magic and miracles and find a way to get the x-men and spider-man in their films.

[Wedge A.]

Originally Posted by JAK®

That scene where the team argues under Loki's influence rivals some of the tenser scenes in TDK.

Spoilers, man.

[Blue Sugar]

I loved The Avengers, but it wasn't because I thought it was transcendental in handling characters, quite far from any of the reasons I thought it was great for.

[jmc]

Originally Posted by JAK®

That scene where the team argues under Loki's influence rivals some of the tenser scenes in TDK.

Eh, I wouldn't go that far, it's a good scene but there's nowhere near the same drama or tension, thing is when the film isn't played as seriously those scenes tends not to have the same impact. Same with the villain, Loki doesn't feel that threatening in the film which is highlighted at the end when he's made the but of a gag.

[JAK®]

I know I'm fighting a losing battle here. You guys would rather big up a movie you haven't seen than admit a separate movie is good.

[Solidus]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

Hmm seeing as TDKR has been following TDK marketing footstep it'll probably be next weekend.

Shoot.

Hopefully we'll get a nice poster in between then and now. A Catwoman poster would be great.

Ya you never know, it could be soon but its hard to tell. But things are starting to take off, that amazing trailer I could watch all day, so it will keep me occupied for at least a week lol. Though I am interested in what Total Film has in store, I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but it sounds like maybe they have something big.

[jmc]

Originally Posted by JAK®

I know I'm fighting a losing battle here. You guys would rather big up a movie you haven't seen than admit a separate movie is good.

You were referring to TDK, which we have seen.

[Sharkboy]

Originally Posted by JAK®

That scene where the team argues under Loki's influence rivals some of the tenser scenes in TDK.

I was intense to be sure, and i really loved how it topped off an already great middle talky part only to be lead to a really tense action sequence, but top the gordon/dent exchange near the end of the film?

Two-Face: Tell your boy it's going to be all right, Gordon. Lie, like I lied.
Lt. James Gordon: It's going to be all right, son.

...yeah no it really doesn't.

[Scarecrow_King]

Originally Posted by HighFivingMF

Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and Clerks 2 are all in the same universe and have intertwining characters and elements.

Not that I don't like what Avengers is doing. It's just not the first time a bunch of movies shared the same universe.

I forgot about those. But I wouldn't put them in the same genre as Avengers. So my point still stands.

The implications of a shared universe are a lot greater in the superhero genre. And really, anything is better without Kevin Smith's ego involved.

[craigdbfan]

Originally Posted by Solidus

Ya you never know, it could be soon but its hard to tell. But things are starting to take off, that amazing trailer I could watch all day, so it will keep me occupied for at least a week lol. Though I am interested in what Total Film has in store, I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but it sounds like maybe they have something big.

The revolutionary thing they were hinting at for May 11th was actually their new tablet app.

All they did was release a cover of their upcoming issue which is dedicated to TDKR but other than that it's nothing huge unfortunately.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/get-a-...e-ipad-edition

[Sharkboy]

I am really really surprised we don't have a poster yet, I'd have expected it to be all over cinemas by now for the Avengers. Probably this weekend then.

[Excelsior.]

At this point I am convinced the forum dwellers (not the GA) who think Nolan's Batman aren't comic book films have never picked up a modern Batman comic. Or a modern comic in general. Because even most Marvel books are gritty, serious, and "angsty". I think their definition of a what a comic book constitutes is what pop culture told them: colorful, thoughtless affairs. Because there are no other explanations. I mean, how can anyone complain about the color when it so forcefully recalls No Man's Land

[rogue_agent]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

The revolutionary thing they were hinting at for May 11th was actually their new tablet app.

All they did was release a cover of their upcoming issue which is dedicated to TDKR but other than that it's nothing huge unfortunately.

You know, some new stills will be 'revolutionary' for me .

[CapedCrusader14]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

The revolutionary thing they were hinting at for May 11th was actually their new tablet app.

All they did was release a cover of their upcoming issue which is dedicated to TDKR but other than that it's nothing huge unfortunately.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/get-a-...e-ipad-edition

Well that sucks.

[redfirebird2008]

Originally Posted by JAK®

I know I'm fighting a losing battle here. You guys would rather big up a movie you haven't seen than admit a separate movie is good.

More like I'm defending the tone of the movie/franchise since it's appropriate for the Batman comic books that inspired it. Attacking that is pretty damn lame if you ask me. I still have no clue why Harry even felt a need to mention it in his review. As far as whether the movie will turn out to be good, who knows. I've said over and over it could turn out like SM3.

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by jmc

You were referring to TDK, which we have seen.

The conversation started because some guy said that Avengers was just a simple action movie but TDKR will change everything.

[Nevincer]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

I was intense to be sure, and i really loved how it topped off an already great middle talky part only to be lead to a really tense action sequence, but top the gordon/dent exchange near the end of the film?

Two-Face: Tell your boy it's going to be all right, Gordon. Lie, like I lied.
Lt. James Gordon: It's going to be all right, son.

...yeah no it really doesn't.

Just went over those two scenes in my head. Yeah... No comparison whatsoever.

[FCEEVIPER]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

So anybody want to venture a guess as to when we will start seeing the T.V spots for TDKR?

I'm going to guess this weekend.

I think in a week or two.

But I'm staying away from all DKR tv spots, those things ruining the movie for me.

[Blue Sugar]

Originally Posted by JAK®

I know I'm fighting a losing battle here. You guys would rather big up a movie you haven't seen than admit a separate movie is good.

I do not only admit The Avengers is good, I think it's great. But as far as that scene being anywhere near as tense as something from TDK I just can't agree with. Just personal preference.