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Old 07-14-2012, 10:19 PM   #251
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Looks like Winter Soldier is coming. Wonder if Red Skull will be worked in, kind of like they did in AvengersL Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:35 PM   #252
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Whoa....was not Expecting him to show up so fast.....really thought he was gona be a cliff hanger endind of post credit reveal of WS

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:37 PM   #253
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I am not shocked he is in the movie. It is one of Cap's most popular stories (though I felt the story itself had SERIOUS pacing issues...but idea is very sound). But, I am hoping they at least tease the return of the Red Skull.

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Them being related is pretty much a relic, the kind of thing no one would get away with introducing today, and it only persists because it was introduced by Steve Englehart in 1973.
No, that's not true. Sharon's introduction in 1965 makes clear that she's related to a woman Cap was in love with in WWII, followed by introducing the character of Peggy in a flashback story.

There's no real reason to use Peggy at all in the first movie if they weren't going to bring Sharon in; Peggy only exists as a prologue to Sharon, and is otherwise not a prominent character. The British army major version of her could just as easily have been a version of Spitfire, otherwise.

Regarding the announced title, it's a good choice for a followup (the fact that Steve was in The Avengers helps pave the way for getting right to WS, since we've seen Cap do a bit of other stuff in the present day already).

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Old 07-14-2012, 11:29 PM   #255
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I'm a little surprised they're going to do the Winter Soldier so soon, simply because I thought they might want to save him for the third movie. But at the same time I'm not surprised because it's a classic Cap story.

I'm really glad they just went with a subtitle, though. I hate bland, boring numerical titles.

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I wasn't expecting Bucky's return& as Winter Solider until the third or forth film,Very interested in it playing out though!!

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Old 07-14-2012, 11:49 PM   #257
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No, that's not true. Sharon's introduction in 1965 makes clear that she's related to a woman Cap was in love with in WWII, followed by introducing the character of Peggy in a flashback story.

There's no real reason to use Peggy at all in the first movie if they weren't going to bring Sharon in; Peggy only exists as a prologue to Sharon, and is otherwise not a prominent character. The British army major version of her could just as easily have been a version of Spitfire, otherwise.
Huh. I checked, and I may have missed it before, but you're right!

I don't think Cap knew the two were related, though. Did he?

We agree otherwise, though. I actually think the movie version of Peggy (she's supposed to be a Major??) is a lot more akin to Cynthia Glass from the Sentinel of Liberty mini.

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Regarding the announced title, it's a good choice for a followup (the fact that Steve was in The Avengers helps pave the way for getting right to WS, since we've seen Cap do a bit of other stuff in the present day already).
Not nearly enough, though. Honestly, Steve was shortshifted in the Avengers. His man-out-of-timeness was a source of jokes.

I'd hoped they'd introduce Sharon and Sam and show him bonding and getting close to both. But that stuff is the lighthearted fare that wouldn't mesh well with the brooding tone there'll be in a movie about Steve's best friend coming back as a cyborg mass murderer.

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I'm surprised that people here are surprised. Bucky's "death" was so quick in the last film that I knew it was going to lead into the sequel immediately. Also what better way to further hate the present than seeing a military branch controlling someone? Also it kind of connects into AVENGERS with Black Widow was talking about (I'm SERIOUSLY hoping Widow will be in this - loved the whole notion that she and Bucky worked together.) I also hope Nick Fury knew and this is something he never told Steve about until it comes to light. Just a lot of major 'man out of time' potential drama here.

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Indeed!

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Does this mean Sebastian Stan is returning or will he be recast? Does he have the chops to play the title role?

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Does this mean Sebastian Stan is returning or will he be recast? Does he have the chops to play the title role?
I think they cast him as Bucky since they were going to go down the WS route following CA:TFA. Marvel wouldn't have signed him to a multi-film deal if he couldn't do it.

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I'm so happy that The Winter Solider is going to be in the sequel to "First Avenger" . I so called this BTW even though Bucky didn't get a full development in the first movie, their were many hints that lead towards him becoming Winter Solider.

Obviously this will be based off of Ed Brubaker Winter Solider arc so I'd assume that both Falcon & Sharon Carter will be in the film adaptation.

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So Cool Can't wait to see How WS will look like!!

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I'm so happy that The Winter Solider is going to be in the sequel to "First Avenger" . I so called this BTW even though Bucky didn't get a full development in the first movie, their were many hints that lead towards him becoming Winter Solider.

Obviously this will be based off of Ed Brubaker Winter Solider arc so I'd assume that both Falcon & Sharon Carter will be in the film adaptation.
All I can say about this is THANK THE LORD. They better have the guts to do this story right.

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I'm actually really surprised by this title, I was not expecting to see Winter Soldier anytime soon. And I like how they just gave up the synopsis for the movie in the title. I am looking to forward to seeing it though, I think it will make for an interesting story and puts Cap in a real dilemma.

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I'm actually really surprised by this title, I was not expecting to see Winter Soldier anytime soon. And I like how they just gave up the synopsis for the movie in the title. I am looking to forward to seeing it though, I think it will make for an interesting story and puts Cap in a real dilemma.
I was a little surprised that they'd be so upfront about what CA2 would be about. With the way Bucky was possibly experimented on by Zola and how he "died," Marvel kind of telegraphed that WS would show up.

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cool, i hope winter soldier is a good guy in the third movie!

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I found this a while back, I forget where, but could this be Cap's next suit?


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Uh, that's from The Avengers.

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Oh. wow. The lighting made me think that the shoulders had extra armor pieces on them.

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AH! Can someone give me the link to the Winter Soldier news?!!!!??

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AH! Can someone give me the link to the Winter Soldier news?!!!!??
Not much there, except for them just changing the title of CA2 to include WS.

http://marvel.com/news/story/19067/s...lms_on_the_way

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Isn't it a little too early for that storyline? Not to mention that for years Bucky's death was part of the character's history.

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Isn't it a little too early for that storyline? Not to mention that for years Bucky's death was part of the character's history.
It is a bit yeah. It's sort of like when Superman says 'I'm the last son of Krypton' and then half a billion people behind him say 'yeah me too!'

Cap will be saying 'it's so lonely being 80 years in the future. No-one gets me' and then Bucky and Red Skull coughs behind him.

I'll give it a go though. You never know. They may wish to work that into the script.

It's just a shame because they didn't really give Steve enough time to deal with his loneliness then find a new group of friends with the Avengers before having his world turned upside down with the Winter Soldier reveal.

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It is a bit yeah. It's sort of like when Superman says 'I'm the last son of Krypton' and then half a billion people behind him say 'yeah me too!'

Cap will be saying 'it's so lonely being 80 years in the future. No-one gets me' and then Bucky and Red Skull coughs behind him.
....and Arnim Zola....and Baron Zemo....and Von Strucker....and Isaiah Bradley....

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