The Ongoing Serie A, La Liga, All English Football, Champions League Thread - - Part 11

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider

In that system he'd replace Gerrard and Gerrard would replace Lampard in the deeper role. The worry with that line-up for me is the lack of legs centrally and the hit & miss nature of the two wide players.

The wideboys are going to have to deliver and take the next step up for us to get anywhere. Centrally I guess Barry is another option. Not going to be easy. I hope Ox gets a chance to do something.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Darthphere

I always see people up in arms over Micah Richards not being selected but I've never been impressed with him as a defender honestly. He can't even get in the starting XI at City most of the time.

He was amazing a few years ago. Not been the same player since though.

[Darthphere]

Roy Hodgson’s reasons for each of his Euro 12 squad selections

[the_ultimate_evil]

Tevez unrepentant over Fergie jibe

yeah yeah i know i'm bias but this man is the definition of wanker

[The Englishman]

I can't believe Downing is in the squad, WTF! I would definitely have taken Adam Johnson over him, a much more exciting player. I really don't know what people see in Downing?

[RKO]

Wigan chairman Dave Whelan has told ESPN that he would advise his manager Roberto Martinez to steer clear of the vacant manager's position at Liverpool describing the club as a 'desolate place, without heart'.


Aw nah he didn't.

[B]

Martinez would be a swing in the dark I think, hes has completely turned Wigan around near the end of the season & if they start this season with their end of season form you could be talking about a mid-table finish for Wigan.

However he has had no experience in the upper half of the table & the sort of expectations that a club like Liverpool have.

[B]

Tevez won't apologise

Same story as UE posted but at Sky Sports, Tevez thinks that holding up a sign that said 'RIP Fergie' with a smurk on his face was banter & in good taste and he shouldn't have to say sorry because Ferguson comes up with similar level insults to players..

Interesting..

[kit1982]

If getting Wigan midtable is the mark of a Liverpool manager then step forward Steve Bruce! I can't believe that Rogers is getting linked with all the top jobs yet Paul Lambert seems to get completely overlooked, he's an up and coming manager who actually has a Plan B!

[ttotheusher]

According to Sky, Michael Carrick refused to be called up. Interesting.

Edit: Also (and I know Hunter will be happy), Michael Owen will not be offered a new contract with United.

[kit1982]

Apparently due to his age and where he is in his career, he didn't want to go if he wasn't going to start. Which is fair enough.

In other sad news Michael Owen has not been offered a new contract

[B]

Originally Posted by kit1982

In other sad news Michael Owen has not been offered a new contract

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

[Two-Face]

Oh THANK GOD! Owen leaving Manchester United! Give the 7 shirt who deserves it.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by Iceman

The wideboys are going to have to deliver and take the next step up for us to get anywhere. Centrally I guess Barry is another option. Not going to be easy. I hope Ox gets a chance to do something.

Barry is probably likely to start the first 2 games when we play 4-3-3. I think Ox could be a breakout for us from the bench, a bit of a secret weapon as he's still developing but very gifted.

Originally Posted by ttotheusher

According to Sky, Michael Carrick refused to be called up. Interesting.

Edit: Also (and I know Hunter will be happy), Michael Owen will not be offered a new contract with United.

Me? About time, two seasons later than it should have happened, in fact.........*breathes* Money down the drain. Now lets get a real United #7, I say Samurai 7! get the marketing team on it.

Originally Posted by B

Martinez would be a swing in the dark I think, hes has completely turned Wigan around near the end of the season & if they start this season with their end of season form you could be talking about a mid-table finish for Wigan.

However he has had no experience in the upper half of the table & the sort of expectations that a club like Liverpool have.

Spidey's post yesterday sort of summed up why any of these young Prem managers won't work, the fans want either an old guard appointment or an elite like Pep, a young Prem manager moving up would need time to settle and I just don't think the faithful will give him that as they don't want them in the first place and the first set of bad results will see the knives out.

[B]

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider

Spidey's post yesterday sort of summed up why any of these young Prem managers won't work, the fans want either an old guard appointment or an elite like Pep, a young Prem manager moving up would need time to settle and I just don't think the faithful will give him that as they don't want them in the first place and the first set of bad results will see the knives out.

That's exactly it, it's like any manger though you have to give him time to settle to establish his own system into the club/team. Look at Chelsea for example, their lack of giving managers proper time to settle has hurt the club more than it has helped it.

You get differing managers with differing sets of opinions on players, one player might be a key or star man for 1 manager, however under another he might be a bit part player.

Personally, I'd actually like AVB to take charge of Liverpool. Simply because I think Liverpool's new owners have a little more sense than Abramovich & will at least give him 1 whole season.. unless of course they are in the relegation zone after about the half way point..

We already know AVB is talented, you don't win European trophies or leagues with Portuguese teams unless you've some level of talent.

Whoever they appoint, he needs to be given some time. If they give him about 30 games like they did with Hodgson, they're never going to progress further.. infact I'd expect them to fall behind Everton permanently if they fail to give the next one a fair chance..

[chamber-music]

I forgot Michael Owen even played for Manchester United.

Walcotts family have said they are not going to watch him in the Euros because of the possible racist threats.

[kit1982]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

I forgot Michael Owen even played for Manchester United.

Walcotts family have said they are not going to watch him in the Euros because of the possible racist threats.

I think they should be more worried about the stick he'll get from England fans....

[RKO]

Michael Owen should've been playing with Beckham in the MLS a long time ago.

[chamber-music]

Imagine if you had Micheal Owen, Owen Hargreaves, Ledley King and Jonathan Woodgate in one team. They don't have a one good knee between the four of them

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider

Barry is probably likely to start the first 2 games when we play 4-3-3. I think Ox could be a breakout for us from the bench, a bit of a secret weapon as he's still developing but very gifted.

I hope Ox breaks out. Think he can be a top player one day. Can probably play as a striker also in future.

[spidey-dude]

I wrote a nice long post but the hype messed up and it didnt post

[Dr. Evil]

Paul Greengrass to do FC Barcelona documentary:

http://collider.com/paul-greengrass-barc/166950/

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I hope Ox breaks out. Think he can be a top player one day. Can probably play as a striker also in future.

Yeah he's a very modern attacker in that he looks like he'd fit on the wings or as a #10.

Originally Posted by spidey-dude

I wrote a nice long post but the hype messed up and it didnt post

Cliff notes?

[spidey-dude]

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider

Cliff notes?

Liverpool fans happy to give managers time - Turning on Roy wasnt just performance based (although it played a large part) but also because he was a buffoon in press conferences and just didnt 'get' the Liverpool way - Dalglish should have got more time, first full season taking over after the two clown owners almost took the club to oblivion wasn't the disaster it is being made out to be and was a good start to rebuilding the club - fans would give AVB time and he certainly wouldn't be the worst appointment - most important to fans is that whoever comes in 'gets' Liverpool, Dalglish 'got' us, Rafa 'got' us..... Rafa even without the sentiment is the best man for the job - only argument against him is "it's a step back" but the performance of the club was certainly a step (leap) ahead in his tenure so that doesn't hold up

see even the cliff notes are long!

[chamber-music]

I thing some managers do need more time to improve things. Some managers like Alex Mcleish should never of taken certain jobs in the first place as you knew it would never work out.

With the type of money Liverpool owners spent they probably expected atleast a top spot.