The Ultimate Spider-Man Animated Series Discussion Thread

[bigdaddy313]

Originally Posted by Jordacar

Here's what I want: a Spidey series with animation as detailed as "Ultimate" (I gotta give it that much), writing and storytelling on par with "Spectacular", with the longevity of the 90s toon. Is that too much to ask?

Dude that is what I would call, the perfect spider-man cartoon.

[Panthro]

Originally Posted by Jordacar

Here's what I want: a Spidey series with animation as detailed as "Ultimate" (I gotta give it that much), writing and storytelling on par with "Spectacular", with the longevity of the 90s toon. Is that too much to ask?

In this day and age of cancel happy executives? Yeah, unfortunately.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by ParkerPeters

Spectacular was the best Spidey show to ever grace this earth...

True

Originally Posted by Jordacar

Here's what I want: a Spidey series with animation as detailed as "Ultimate" (I gotta give it that much), writing and storytelling on par with "Spectacular", with the longevity of the 90s toon.

I ride the same train

Is that too much to ask?

It seems to be that way

Originally Posted by bigdaddy313

As **** as this show is its best looking spider-man show ever and best looking venom

No Spider-Man cartoon looks better than SM&HAF

Or the other 80s cartoon

[bigdaddy313]

Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

True

I ride the same train
It seems to be that way


No Spider-Man cartoon looks better than SM&HAF

Or the other 80s cartoon

Dude are you serious we have at least have to give the **** cartoon credit for being the best looking

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Originally Posted by Mistah K88

So I came back to watch the episode with Doc Ock, and while it wasn't AS bad as the other episodes...I was reminded of Ock's first go at supervillainy in Spectacular...I was thinking things like Norman bullying Otto and fight on Coney Island was just a coincidence, but then the sawblade tenticles were whipped out (though I must admit, that Ock has more weaponry in this cartoon than in Spectacular)...which made me wonder if the sawblade tenticles were used in comics....THEN came that "You can't stand to see other hurt" with Ock grabbing a random civilian. I was trying to not compare the two but I couldn't help it this time.

Don't forget in both of them, Osborn tried to get rid of incriminating evidence by killing Octavius.

[Leenie]

Originally Posted by bigdaddy313

As **** as this show is its best looking spider-man show ever and best looking venom

Right? That makes the show all the more frustrating for me. The show is crap, but the animation and character designs are gorgeous.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by bigdaddy313

Dude are you serious we have at least have to give the **** cartoon credit for being the best looking

Yep, dead serious
This cartoon maybe looks the best in drawing some stuff, but nothing looks better than SM cartoons from the 80s, with art inspired by the work of John Romita sr

[bigdaddy313]

I understand.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I don't really like many of the designs, actually. They look really generic, especially the faces. They have no distinct style or flavor to them. It's even worse when most of the costumes are either ripped off from the movies or from the comics.

The only ones I do like are Venom, because it's the best Venom model yet, and Doc Ock, because it's actually effectively creepy and an unique twist on him.

[Spider-Aziz]

You know what? May here is everything Peter jokingly told her to stop doing in the Lee written comics, next she will be shown playing American Armored Rugby (can't call it by the name it's known for, cause the foot does not touch the ball)

[Thor The Mighty]

Originally Posted by ParkerPeters

This show is an abomination.

Right on bro!

[Spidey_62]

Originally Posted by GamerSlyRatchet

I don't really like many of the designs, actually. They look really generic, especially the faces. They have no distinct style or flavor to them. It's even worse when most of the costumes are either ripped off from the movies or from the comics.

The only ones I do like are Venom, because it's the best Venom model yet, and Doc Ock, because it's actually effectively creepy and an unique twist on him.

I agree, the designs are pretty bland and 'safe'.

[Spidey220987]

I went to my older bro's house yesterday to see my nephew, and my parents came too (to see their grandchild, obviously lol).

After a while, I thought let's see what's on TV, and Ultimate Spider-Man was showing on Disney XD, 3 episodes back-to-back. I missed "Doomed", so watched "Venom" and "Flight of the Iron Spider" , and my Dad watched too.

After FoTIS had finished, my Dad said "That cartoon's good. It's different to the Spider-Man cartoon I saw growing up, and different to the Spider-Man I know, but I enjoyed that"

I thought that was a fair comment. My Dad likes his sci-fi and superheroes (doesn't like his supers as much as I do though lol), but that was a completely unbiased opinion, from a soon-to-be-57 year old man. Just goes to show that fans, even the older ones, are divided with this show, and have different tastes.

[Sebastos]

Originally Posted by Spidey220987

Just goes to show that fans, even the older ones, are divided with this show, and have different tastes.

Indeed, that's all it is.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by Spidey220987

After FoTIS had finished, my Dad said "That cartoon's good. It's different to the Spider-Man cartoon I saw growing up, and different to the Spider-Man I know, but I enjoyed that"

I thought that was a fair comment. My Dad likes his sci-fi and superheroes (doesn't like his supers as much as I do though lol), but that was a completely unbiased opinion, from a soon-to-be-57 year old man. Just goes to show that fans, even the older ones, are divided with this show, and have different tastes.

Someone older than me likes what he saw of the show, YESS

[Dread]

I did watch "ME TIME" last weekend, but didn't have the energy or desire to review it. I still don't but I may as well before the next episode airs. It is the 12th episode and that matches the amount of episodes I endured from the "MTV SPIDER-MAN" show, but is one shy of matching "SPIDER-MAN UNLIMITED". Is that enough to fulfill my geek stamina? It should be. On the whole it's another completely mundane and predictable affair with a lot of the same flaws.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

After roughly 11 episodes of build-up, Otto Octavious is dispatched to capture Spider-Man personally for Norman Osborn after all his failures, lest his funding and mechanical harness be taken away. At the same time, Peter Parker wants some "alone time" from both SHIELD and web-slinging and is put off when he finds a SHIELD bug in his home. He gets into a verbal fight with Nick Fury and quits SHIELD, just as Dr. Octopus arrives and he needs them most. Really, anyone who can't predict where this is going is too young for DORA THE EXPLORER.

There isn't much to say that I haven't already. The tone is uneven and many of the jokes are not funny. Some are, but not the majority. But without them, this would be mediocrity and much like "TEEN TITANS" did, the jokes and chibi antics are distractions, pretty wrapping paper on a bland gift. The idea of Spider-Man attending a carnival as Spider-Man for fun is the sort of cornball stuff which was barely tolerable in the 80's and makes no sense now. I did wonder why Osborn still needs Spider-Man since Ock already got a blood sample from him to make Venom, which Osborn seemed impressed with. Can't they just culture more samples from that? Or was Ock a moron and used it ALL on Venom? Or do the writers have no clue how science works? Tom Kenny is okay as Ock and we get a battle in an underwater layer, but having seen this sort of thing done way better in TSSM, it becomes a chore to watch this.

With the end of the Ock subplot it does feel very much like the middle of the season, and perhaps a good time to bid this show farewell. After all, if I don't have the time to watch "BATMAN: BRAVE AND THE BOLD" which was a more acceptable guilty pleasure, I certainly should quit making time for this. This is the show Disney wanted? They can have it.

[bigdaddy313]

Originally Posted by Dread

I did watch "ME TIME" last weekend, but didn't have the energy or desire to review it. I still don't but I may as well before the next episode airs. It is the 12th episode and that matches the amount of episodes I endured from the "MTV SPIDER-MAN" show, but is one shy of matching "SPIDER-MAN UNLIMITED". Is that enough to fulfill my geek stamina? It should be. On the whole it's another completely mundane and predictable affair with a lot of the same flaws.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

After roughly 11 episodes of build-up, Otto Octavious is dispatched to capture Spider-Man personally for Norman Osborn after all his failures, lest his funding and mechanical harness be taken away. At the same time, Peter Parker wants some "alone time" from both SHIELD and web-slinging and is put off when he finds a SHIELD bug in his home. He gets into a verbal fight with Nick Fury and quits SHIELD, just as Dr. Octopus arrives and he needs them most. Really, anyone who can't predict where this is going is too young for DORA THE EXPLORER.

There isn't much to say that I haven't already. The tone is uneven and many of the jokes are not funny. Some are, but not the majority. But without them, this would be mediocrity and much like "TEEN TITANS" did, the jokes and chibi antics are distractions, pretty wrapping paper on a bland gift. The idea of Spider-Man attending a carnival as Spider-Man for fun is the sort of cornball stuff which was barely tolerable in the 80's and makes no sense now. I did wonder why Osborn still needs Spider-Man since Ock already got a blood sample from him to make Venom, which Osborn seemed impressed with. Can't they just culture more samples from that? Or was Ock a moron and used it ALL on Venom? Or do the writers have no clue how science works? Tom Kenny is okay as Ock and we get a battle in an underwater layer, but having seen this sort of thing done way better in TSSM, it becomes a chore to watch this.

With the end of the Ock subplot it does feel very much like the middle of the season, and perhaps a good time to bid this show farewell. After all, if I don't have the time to watch "BATMAN: BRAVE AND THE BOLD" which was a more acceptable guilty pleasure, I certainly should quit making time for this. This is the show Disney wanted? They can have it.

Dude I will miss your reviews.

[Sebastos]

I think this was the first episode not to have so many 4th wall jokes and man was it much better that way, this episode felt fluent. Dr. Strange was awesome, Iron Fist had some nice moments with K'un-Lun and Shao Lao and it was great seeing more of Peter and Uncle Ben as everyone had to confront their nightmares. There was one scene in particular with Peter and Uncle Ben that was really great and stood out....

A great episode.

[Spider-Aziz]

Ock in this show looks like Ozzy Osbourne

[Pepsiguy2]

I'm just gonna say that I love this show for what it is. I can't wait until Carnage and Goblin show up. They're in the episode descriptions for wiki so i hope it's true.

[k1dn1nj4]

Okay guys. First let me start off by saying I hated this show when it premiered. It was horrible, with unfunny jokes, nonfitting characterization and just... whatisthisidon'teven. That being said, I just happened to watch Sunday's episode with Dr. Strange and guys, I think this show is finally beginning to hit its stride. The episode was zany and cartoony but just the right amount. It wasn't intolerably so. It was pretty fun and Spidey's characterization was actually fitting with him being skeptical of magic and the jokes were actually landing this time (at least better than before). That being said, it's still not the Spidey show I wanted, but it's obvious that for what it is, it's actually becoming ... not horrible. I guess we'll see what the future brings.

[Spider-Aziz]

When I saw more about Iron Fist than what was usually shown, I thought they'd show more of him in this episode than what they did, shows me not to raise my hopes
Guest stars are explained when the main cast are usually just there, that is a con with this show

On a bright note, I like the magic tricks, and the reminder of The Final Chapter from Spider-Man comics (whatever you think of that story, Spider-Man supporting a building standing where a column fell is awesome, even better with people reactions)

[r0derix]

In an interview about Spectacular, Greg Weisman said this:

Originally Posted by Greg Weisman

We don’t want the show to be guest-star of the week. Spider-Man doesn’t need Wolverine to make sure the show’s a success. We wanted the first two seasons in particular to stay in the Spider-Man corner of the Marvel Universe. We felt that if we started bringing people in too early, viewers would keep asking “well, who’s gonna show up next?” and it would be a distraction from our main characters who are so interesting.

I think this quote sums up nicely the difference between how much thought and love was put into Spectacular vs. Ultimate.

[Spider-Aziz]

Yes, I know, TSSM was the epitome of Spider-Man animated shows, and it's a fantastic gift for Spider-Man fans. Can we please quit bringing it up? No one will listen and let that series get a completion or another show like it to be released soon, simmer down please

We can hope it comes out later this decade and continue the trend of 2 Spider-Man animated shows per decade

[Spider-Gnome]

Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

Yes, I know, TSSM was the epitome of Spider-Man animated shows, and it's a fantastic gift for Spider-Man fans. Can we please quit bringing it up?

Nope.