2011/2012 NBA Thread: Where Weather Happens

[Scrandy Randy]

Originally Posted by Anubis

And just like that it looks like the back to back hurt OKC more than the Lakers. So much for that theory.

OKC being down at half time, or even going onto lose this game doesn't mean it hurt OKC more. They still have fresher legs they're just not playing good basketball.

[Docker2.0]

Originally Posted by Scrandy Randy

OKC being down at half time, or even going onto lose this game doesn't mean it hurt OKC more. They still have fresher legs they're just not playing good basketball.

Well bynum did say they knew how to play those guys. They are a jump shooting team with no post presence at all. Play for the jump shot and they are very beatable.

[Scrandy Randy]

Originally Posted by Docker2.0

Well bynum did say they knew how to play those guys. They are a jump shooting team with no post presence at all. Play for the jump shot and they are very beatable.

They're not getting that high screen to mid range jump shot that Durant and especially Westbrook love that got them the blow out in game one wen not only did they get that shot but they made it nearly every time.

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by Scrandy Randy

OKC being down at half time, or even going onto lose this game doesn't mean it hurt OKC more. They still have fresher legs they're just not playing good basketball.

I was more refering to Westbrook slippin' and nearly messin' up his leg.

[Scrandy Randy]

This Lakers team can't stop runs.

[Scrandy Randy]

The Lakers lost. Can't stop a run, no legs, Kobe isn't clutch, and everyone's making dumb plays.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The Durantula!

[L.A.]

Damn my connection was cut off at the one mins mark?! How did the thunder win?

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

An icy 3 from Durant.

[Wolfwood]

Originally Posted by L.A.

Damn my connection was cut off at the one mins mark?! How did the thunder win?

By scoring more points

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[Scrandy Randy]

Originally Posted by L.A.

Damn my connection was cut off at the one mins mark?! How did the thunder win?

Usual stuff. The obligatory opposition run to put OKC back in contention, the dumb play(Gasol telegraphed a pass and it was picked), and Kobe went into don't give a **** mode and just chucked up contested shots without even attempting to make space.

[Scrandy Randy]

I mean did Kobe even set his feet before taking that three? Pretty sure he went up right off the run.

[JaD]

So I guess Pau will be getting death threats now?

[L.A.]

I read that Kobe hasn't made a game winning shot in the playoffs since 06

[Scrandy Randy]

Originally Posted by L.A.

I read that Kobe hasn't made a game winning shot in the playoffs since 06

I think the stat you're thinking of is he hasn't made a game winning or game tying shot since 07. That's gotta be playoffs only right?

I have a problem with that since clutch is much more the game tying or game winning shots. It's closing out a game whether that's bringing your team back with 5 left, keeping them in it with 5 left, etc.

[Raiden]

Well, I already wrote off Lakers' chance to win in this series after their heartbreaking loss in game 2, but this one still stings. No matter what, the team needs help, and I hope the front office will start figuring out what to do in the off-season. It sucks but the reality is that this team just lacks too much depth to go far in the playoff.

[Anubis]

They probably coulda held on if they kept going to Bynum in the second half. Guy killed em in the 1st half. Then he only managed to get 4 shots in the 2nd? Really?

[Docker2.0]

Originally Posted by Anubis

They probably coulda held on if they kept going to Bynum in the second half. Guy killed em in the 1st half. Then he only managed to get 4 shots in the 2nd? Really?

Guess who took like 7 shots in the final 3 minutes and didn't hit not one. I'll give you a hint: his name means ball hog in the ghetto.

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by Scrandy Randy

I think the stat you're thinking of is he hasn't made a game winning or game tying shot since 07. That's gotta be playoffs only right?

Yeah playoffs, just in 2010 he hit 7 game winners that season. It's really the only reason they had Home Court over Boston for those Finals.

Originally Posted by Anubis

They probably coulda held on if they kept going to Bynum in the second half. Guy killed em in the 1st half. Then he only managed to get 4 shots in the 2nd? Really?

When OKC fronts him, it's hard to get him the ball. They play the passing lanes too well, and gamble a lot. The only one who has success against those fronts is Gasol because the ball is coming from up high.

That being said Kobe goes into his mode because of those issues. He's right and wrong to do it but when Bynum is fronted and Gasol isn't looking to score, he loses any small semblance of patience he has.

[L.A.]

Bryant faulted Gasol for not playing aggressive enough. It was also Gasol's turnover that led to Kevin Durant making the winning 3-pointer with 13.7 seconds left.

"Pau's got to be more assertive," Bryant said. "He's the guy they'releaving [open]. When he's catching the ball, he's looking to pass. He's got to be aggressive. He's got to shoot the ball or drive the ball to the basket. He will be next game."

the nerve of this mother****er Kobe when he missed 8 of 10 shots in the 4th quarter. That is EXACTLY why I hate this dude and his nut riding minions!

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by L.A.

Bryant faulted Gasol for not playing aggressive enough. It was also Gasol's turnover that led to Kevin Durant making the winning 3-pointer with 13.7 seconds left.

"Pau's got to be more assertive," Bryant said. "He's the guy they'releaving [open]. When he's catching the ball, he's looking to pass. He's got to be aggressive. He's got to shoot the ball or drive the ball to the basket. He will be next game."

the nerve of this mother****er Kobe when he missed 8 of 10 shots in the 4th quarter. That is EXACTLY why I hate this dude and his nut riding minions!

Well it's true lol. The game was tied at 98-98. For all the Kobe hate (and believe me, he's at fault for his shot selection in the 4th) the game was still tied. Gasol didn't attempt a shot the whole quarter. Not once. And don't act like Kobe came down and fired the ball up every possession, Gasol touches it as much as Kobe does, even more actually, because they use him as the main facilitator from the High Post almost every time down the floor. Every time Kobe or Bynum receives the ball, 7 times out of 10 it's coming from Pau, so he can directly control his game. And more often than not, he decides against being aggressive. It's been a problem with him forever, and with Bynum & Kobe on the floor, I kind of get it, all three can't be in the post at the same time. But when your in with the second unit, and your still acting the same way, it's inexcusable.

It's the reason Bryant shoots like that in the first place, I don't see why people don't understand this. Everybody loves trying to stat me to death about games the Lakers win and how much Kobe shoots in those, but the simple fact is he doesn't force the issue when everybody else is playing well, most nights. And when he doesn't see maximum effort, he's definitely not passing. But last night in particular, he was rolling pretty good thru 3 qtrs, he just didn't have enough to finish it off, which is a common theme. Mentally, he thinks he's still Kobe from 04-07, and he's not anymore.

[Anubis]

Eh, I'm indifferent.

[Daniel Thompson]

I'm rooting for Indiana now to upset Miami in this series just to hear the backlash of the Heat's downfall.

[Doc Samson]

Herculean effort from Wade & especially Lebron, that's the type of Lebron we don't see enough of. But I can't see how they can sustain that type of effort, not only for this series, but in the next if they get that far. That was NBA Live 95 type sh**!

[Darthphere]

I can see all the Heat "fans" jumping back on the bandwagon. I seriously need to move.