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Old 05-28-2012, 09:54 AM   #251
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Not retconned. How can they retcon him and still carry on with the Harvey Dent stuff? He's just not getting mentioned apparently
that's what I'm saying though, they're not gonna mention him at all & just focus on Dent so are they gonna make it look like he was never even there?

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It's known Bruce referred to her as a 'Cat burglar' in the film. I don't see why people are so upset over this.

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that's what I'm saying though, they're not gonna mention him at all & just focus on Dent so are they gonna make it look like he was never even there?
They're not going to pretend he was never there, they're just not going to mention him.

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They're not going to pretend he was never there, they're just not going to mention him.
Ugh, but that's still not cool though. I can understand Mr. Nolan does not want to add any cgi/unused footage of Joker in the film, but what is so bad about just mentioning him?

People are going to wonder what happened to him...locked up...dead....escaped...though that last one's not likely

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that's what I'm saying though, they're not gonna mention him at all & just focus on Dent so are they gonna make it look like he was never even there?
Not mentioning him isn't going to make it look like he was never there. If anyone has seen TDK they know Joker's part in what happened to Dent.

Somehow the script is going to address this without mentioning the instigator for it all. I think it sucks, too, but Nolan is apparently so hung up on Heath's memory that he thinks referencing the Joker is going to hurt that in some way.

Makes no sense to me.

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Old 05-28-2012, 09:59 AM   #256
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Not mentioning him isn't going to make it look like he was never there. If anyone has seen TDK they know Joker's part in what happened to Dent.

Somehow the script is going to address this without mentioning the instigator for it all. I think it sucks, too, but Nolan is apparently so hung up on Heath's memory that he thinks referencing the Joker is going to hurt that in some way.

Makes no sense to me.
Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying too, I don't understand....this is going to hurt the movie a lil bit. Well, we all knew it couldn't be perfect but eh.

I wonder why catwoman is never called catwoman...does the name seem too unrealistic for nolan's realistic world?

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I love the fact that Anne wore what looks like a chain-belt around her waist. It reminded me of Catwoman in Batman: The Animated Series. It might only be a coincidence, but it's certainly a nice one.

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Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying too, I don't understand....this is going to hurt the movie a lil bit. Well, we all knew it couldn't be perfect but eh.
I don't think it will necessarily hurt the movie. But it would have been nice to have the clown get a reference. With all this Harvey Dent stuff going on it would have been so easy to slip his name in as many times as they liked without it sounding forced.

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I don't buy that for a second either. If we can have villain labels like Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow and Joker, then we can have Catwoman, too.

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How the Hell is not mentioning the Joker going to hurt the movie ? Was Ras mentioned in TDK ? This is really the most absurd nonsensical whining yet . The Joker is either dead or in jail and there is no reason to mention him just to mention him and the Harvey Dent stuff is being mentioned because it is more vital to the story as Batman & Gordon tried to cover it up ..... So its about Bruce .

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How the Hell is not mentioning the Joker going to hurt the movie ? Was Ras mentioned in TDK ? This is really the most absurd nonsensical whining yet . The Joker is either dead or in jail and there is no reason to mention him just to mention him and the Harvey Dent stuff is being mentioned because it is more vital to the story as Batman & Gordon tried to cover it up ..... So its about Bruce .
Ra's didn't leave any mess behind like Joker did with Dent. He should be mentioned because it's his fault for it all. It's his fault Batman is being hunted. It's his fault Rachel is dead. It's his fault Dent got scarred and turned bad guy.

It also sucks that Catwoman is not getting her proper name.

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How the Hell is not mentioning the Joker going to hurt the movie ? Was Ras mentioned in TDK ? This is really the most absurd nonsensical whining yet . The Joker is either dead or in jail and there is no reason to mention him just to mention him and the Harvey Dent stuff is being mentioned because it is more vital to the story as Batman & Gordon tried to cover it up ..... So its about Bruce .
I've never understood the "This movie MUST have this, or it CAN'T have this" crowd. It isn't our movie, can we not just watch it first before we start judging?

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Ra's didn't leave any mess behind like Joker did with Dent. He should be mentioned because it's his fault for it all. It's his fault Batman is being hunted. It's his fault Rachel is dead. It's his fault Dent got scarred and turned bad guy.

It also sucks that Catwoman is not getting her proper name.
Its also 8 years later . No need to bring up a guy who is likley dead now ... I am sorry I don't need any mentions to understand that . I ain't a moron . I saw the previous films

I don't need the mention of Joker overshadowing Bane here

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I was hoping at least some cop or casual bystander would say something like "who's this catwoman?" or "we were accosted by some kind of catwoman." It doesn't have to be her formal name (hence why they might not use it) but there should be an unofficial mention, just like there was a reference to Iron Monger or War Machine in the Iron Man movies, even if those weren't their actual names as such.

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It does seem strange that the guy who brought chaos to Gotham, killed the supposed love of Bruce's life and corrupted it's White Knight doesn't even get a mention. I thought there would at least be a news report mentioning the aftermath of the events of TDK and the Joker.

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I was hoping at least some cop or casual bystander would say something like "who's this catwoman?" or "we were accosted by some kind of catwoman." It doesn't have to be her formal name (hence why they might not use it) but there should be an unofficial mention, just like there was a reference to Iron Monger or War Machine in the Iron Man movies, even if those weren't their actual names as such.
That may still happen.

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I've never understood the "This movie MUST have this, or it CAN'T have this" crowd. It isn't our movie, can we not just watch it first before we start judging?

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Its also 8 years later . No need to bring up a guy who is likley dead now ... I am sorry I don't need any mentions to understand that . I ain't a moron . I saw the previous films
Who cares how many years later it is? All the rotten things he did are relevant to the movie. Bin Laden is still talked about with the events of 9/11.

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Bane would have to be a real weak villain if all it took to overshadow him was the mention of Joker's name hahahaha.

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It does seem strange that the guy who brought chaos to Gotham, killed the supposed love of Bruce's life and corrupted it's White Knight doesn't even get a mention. I thought there would at least be a news report mentioning the aftermath of the events of TDK and the Joker.
Right on

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TV spot #3 has a close up shot of Selina on the pod. The first time we see her in action.

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It does seem strange that the guy who brought chaos to Gotham, killed the supposed love of Bruce's life and corrupted it's White Knight doesn't even get a mention. I thought there would at least be a news report mentioning the aftermath of the events of TDK and the Joker.
It's been eight years. The current era in Gotham is one of peace (as described in the trailer).

For me personally, it's not a big deal if The Joker isn't mentioned. It's been nearly a decade after the events unfolded. Furthermore, The Joker might have corrupted Harvey Dent, but the public was never aware of this tragedy. The only ones that knew about The Joker's involvement were Batman and Gordon.

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People were hoping for this?
When Bruce Wayne makes a comment about it being a brazen costume for a cat burglar, that would've been the perfect opportunity for Selina to say "what a forward young man you are. My goodness!"


But maybe we could get that line, along with "you did not just ask me that question" if he mentions the bat between her lips.

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It's been eight years. The current era in Gotham is one of peace (as described in the trailer).

For me personally, it's not a big deal if The Joker isn't mentioned. It's been nearly a decade after the events unfolded. Furthermore, The Joker might have corrupted Harvey Dent, but the public was never aware of this tragedy. The only ones that knew about The Joker's involvement were Batman and Gordon.
Yes but still, an attack like that isn't exactly one people forget. As someone else mentioned Bin Laden is still talked about today.

Plus the personal effect it had on Bruce. Will there be no mention of Rachel then? Or that it was Joker who killed her?

To he it just seems strange to sweep the character under the rug completely. Even if it's not a news report, a conversation between Batman and Gordon or Alfred, mentioning "him" would make sense. They don't even have to mention his name as Joker.

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Furthermore, The Joker might have corrupted Harvey Dent, but the public was never aware of this tragedy. The only ones that knew about The Joker's involvement were Batman and Gordon.
So how does Bane find out the details of it then?

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So how does Bane find out the details of it then?
Jokey and Baney shared a padded cell together.

That information is unknown yet, so why don't you wait until the film is released to receive that nugget of info.

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