The Amazing Spider-Man's Design Choices

[SpaceWay2009]

Raimi's suit makes Spider-Man look kind of fat, specifically in the third one. I don't know if it's the suit itself, or the person wearing it. lol

[TheWallCrawler]

Originally Posted by SpaceWay2009

Raimi's suit makes Spider-Man look kind of fat, specifically in the third one. I don't know if it's the suit itself, or the person wearing it. lol

it's both lol

also, there's a way to do the original design so it would look sleeker, so that is not even a very good interpretation of the classic costume

[mayo23]

It might also be because the suit was padded in certain areas.

[OP84CC82]

It's weird how people say that the material the suit is made out of looks too rubbery, but if you look really closely, you'd see that the material being spoken of is only part of the hexagonal pattern that covers the suit, there is some real fabric under it.

[OP84CC82]

But from the look of this movie, I would so not mind Marc Webb doing a Batman reboot. TASM has a real world feel, but also doesn't stray away from some out there technology (futuristic holograms, mutagens, etc.)

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I want him to complete his Spidey trilogy first.

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by GENERAL RAAM582

I want him to complete his Spidey trilogy first.

Agreed. But Sony wants these films out quick since they already announced the release date for the second one a while back, and that release date (May 2014) is only 2 years from now.

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I kinda hate the fact they are giving him less than two years, he really won't be done with this film until July 3rd, so really it's less than two years. They gotta stop rushing these things.

[stillanerd]

I understand the rationale behind why the suit in this movie looks the way it does, that it was designed to better resemble something a teenager would make. However, they could have gotten that idea across by having the suit retain the same texture but still make it look like the one in the comics. As others have said, here it just looks like change for the sake of making it look different from the costume in the Raimi film, not to mention it actually contradicts the whole notion that it's "something a teenager would realistically make" if it has such detail. There's no legitimate reason why it needs to have blue in the gloves, or the stripes running down the legs, or have the half belt design. Heck, even the upcoming Amazing Spider-Man video game appeared to have a problem with that last detail and rectified the problem by giving Spidey a "utility belt" done up to look like a modern version of the belt on Spidey's costume. I'd also make the blue more of a midnight blue or better yet black.

As for the Lizard, really don't care for the way his face looks AT ALL. As the more recent picture shows, the "snoutless" face makes not nearly as scary as he ought to be.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

But from the look of this movie, I would so not mind Marc Webb doing a Batman reboot. TASM has a real world feel, but also doesn't stray away from some out there technology (futuristic holograms, mutagens, etc.)

**** no.

There are better directors that should give their shots at Batman, not someone that is starting his own CBM and making people think he's God's newest gift for CBMs.

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

**** no.

There are better directors that should give their shots at Batman, not someone that is starting his own CBM and making people think he's God's newest gift for CBMs.

Okay...well #1. What "better" directors should give their shots at Batman? Please don't tell me David Fincher or Zack Snyder or I'll just throw my laptop through the window with a bomb strapped to it., #2. Who's said that he's "God's newest gift for CBMs."? I've never heard anyone say that., and #3. Why do you think he's not that good? You might not have said that, but that seems to be what your implying? Have you seen any of his movies?

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by stillanerd

I understand the rationale behind why the suit in this movie looks the way it does, that it was designed to better resemble something a teenager would make. However, they could have gotten that idea across by having the suit retain the same texture but still make it look like the one in the comics. As others have said, here it just looks like change for the sake of making it look different from the costume in the Raimi film, not to mention it actually contradicts the whole notion that it's "something a teenager would realistically make" if it has such detail. There's no legitimate reason why it needs to have blue in the gloves, or the stripes running down the legs, or have the half belt design. Heck, even the upcoming Amazing Spider-Man video game appeared to have a problem with that last detail and rectified the problem by giving Spidey a "utility belt" done up to look like a modern version of the belt on Spidey's costume. I'd also make the blue more of a midnight blue or better yet black.

As for the Lizard, really don't care for the way his face looks AT ALL. As the more recent picture shows, the "snoutless" face makes not nearly as scary as he ought to be.

I wouldn't have minded this. I actually like some of the design choices that some people dislike such as the texturing, broken up spider, and shoes (because running with just a sock on is torture) but I will admit, I do wish they could have based the web pattern and such more off of the original design.

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by GENERAL RAAM582

I kinda hate the fact they are giving him less than two years, he really won't be done with this film until July 3rd, so really it's less than two years. They gotta stop rushing these things.

The film has to be shipped out to cinemas domestically and internationally before then and the premiere of the film will be on the 29th of June (which will presumably be in Tokyo since Matt Tolmach said that Japan would be the first territory where the film would be released since you know, SPE is owned by Sony, which is Japanese)

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

Okay...well #1. What "better" directors should give their shots at Batman? Please don't tell me David Fincher or Zack Snyder or I'll just throw my laptop through the window with a bomb strapped to it., #2. Who's said that he's "God's newest gift for CBMs."? I've never heard anyone say that., and #3. Why do you think he's not that good? You might not have said that, but that seems to be what your implying? Have you seen any of his movies?

Single. MOVIE.

#1.) A David Fincher-directed Batman film would be outstanding. Just because it doesn't suit your fancy it doesn't mean it wouldn't be a solid choice. Fincher really gets a movie that revolves around the mind, psyche and emotion and Nolan really showed how that can be taken into a Batman flick and Fincher can grasp unto that. So can Aronofsky or even someone like Duncan Jones. Besides, as I said...Webb shouldn't be doing another CBM franchise. I just don't want Webb to be doing such when his ASM series is even getting inspiration from the Batman films.

#2.) I've heard people say that already. You'll find fanboys already worshipping this film TOO much to even say Webb is the next best thing for CBMs. Welcome to the Hype, you'll be reading a lot of exaggerated statements.

#3.) You're right, I did not imply that. So your assumption is just a tragic fail. I like (500) Days of Summer myself, but I don't think he fits to even try on the Batman franchise. Get a director that was on tapped before Nolan even signed on to BB or someone fresh just as how Sony did with getting Marc Webb.

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Single. MOVIE.

#1.) A David Fincher-directed Batman film would be outstanding. Just because it doesn't suit your fancy it doesn't mean it wouldn't be a solid choice. Fincher really gets a movie that revolves around the mind, psyche and emotion and Nolan really showed how that can be taken into a Batman flick and Fincher can grasp unto that. So can Aronofsky or even someone like Duncan Jones. Besides, as I said...Webb shouldn't be doing another CBM franchise. I just don't want Webb to be doing such when his ASM series is even getting inspiration from the Batman films.

#2.) I've heard people say that already. You'll find fanboys already worshipping this film TOO much to even say Webb is the next best thing for CBMs. Welcome to the Hype, you'll be reading a lot of exaggerated statements.

#3.) You're right, I did not imply that. So your assumption is just a tragic fail. I like (500) Days of Summer myself, but I don't think he fits to even try on the Batman franchise. Get a director that was on tapped before Nolan even signed on to BB or someone fresh just as how Sony did with getting Marc Webb.

I never said that it didn't "suit my fancy" I said that I'm tired of people saying that the same two directors should have a go at a franchise and no one else. And also, Fincher, Aronofsky, Jones, and Nolan's film making genres tend to be in the same field, and I don't want the same thing over again in terms of storytelling.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

I never said that it didn't "suit my fancy" I said that I'm tired of people saying that the same two directors should have a go at a franchise and no one else. And also, Fincher, Aronofsky, Jones, and Nolan's film making genres tend to be in the same field, and I don't want the same thing over again in terms of storytelling.

But yet you wouldn't mind Webb when his Spidey reboot is taking steps from Nolan's Bat films? Yah, that makes sense.

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

But yet you wouldn't mind Webb when his Spidey reboot is taking steps from Nolan's Bat films? Yah, that makes sense.

What "steps"? Aside from the fact that TASM will be more grounded in reality than the previous films, it doesn't seem to bear the whole psychological aspect of the Nolan Batman films.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

What "steps"? Aside from the fact that TASM will be more grounded in reality than the previous films, it doesn't seem to bear the whole psychological aspect of the Nolan Batman films.

Yes it does. It seems to be very character-driven so far with Peter Parker as Nolan did with Bruce.

[DACrowe]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

I wouldn't have minded this. I actually like some of the design choices that some people dislike such as the texturing, broken up spider, and shoes (because running with just a sock on is torture) but I will admit, I do wish they could have based the web pattern and such more off of the original design.

I think it's poking at the trend of fans thinking whoever directed their most recent favorite superhero movie (which is really funny with this one as TASM hasn't even come out yet and may not be amazing) should direct all superhero movies.

After X2 came out, Bryan Singer should direct all superhero movies (enter Superman Returns). After Spder-Man 2 came out, some thought Raimi should direct Batman movies (though after SM3, everyone pretends they always hated SM1/SM2 now). After, 300 came out, Snyder should direct all superhero movies (until they saw Sucker Punch). Before Webb was hired, fans were campaigning for Nolan to direct Spider-Man movies. Now, that The Avengers is out and is great, Joss Whedon should direct all superhero movies. Granted, I've thought for years Whedon would do wonders with Spidey, but that's beside the point.

[DACrowe]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

What "steps"? Aside from the fact that TASM will be more grounded in reality than the previous films, it doesn't seem to bear the whole psychological aspect of the Nolan Batman films.

Really? The whole grounded thing is Sony, not necessarily by Webb's choice, imitating the success of Nolan's Batman films (Bond did as well with Casino Royale and several other successful, good movies). Peter is in search of his father and dealing with his father's legacy (much like BB), is being chased by the cops as a vigilante outlaw (much like BB), fights crime almost entirely at night (much like BB) and looks like he will have a relationship with a middle-aged cop (much like BB, though Stacy seems more antagonistic than Gordon). The marketing department even threw the word "BEGINS" in the trailer.

[Spider-Who?]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Yes it does. It seems to be very character-driven so far with Peter Parker as Nolan did with Bruce.

....if a movie being character driven is a Nolan trait, then nearly every movie in existence would be copying him.

[Spider-Who?]

Originally Posted by DACrowe

Really? The whole grounded thing is Sony, not necessarily by Webb's choice, imitating the success of Nolan's Batman films (Bond did as well with Casino Royale and several other successful, good movies). Peter is in search of his father and dealing with his father's legacy (much like BB), is being chased by the cops as a vigilante outlaw (much like BB), fights crime almost entirely at night (much like BB) and looks like he will have a relationship with a middle-aged cop (much like BB, though Stacy seems more antagonistic than Gordon). The marketing department even threw the word "BEGINS" in the trailer.

Everything you listed is from the comics. You can't say that Webb sticking to the source material is copying Nolan.

This surge of "Nolan did it first" stuff is getting irritating (and my feelings on it have nothing to do with Webb). Next people are going to say that the sun never rose until Nolan filmed a sunrise.

[DACrowe]

Much of it was in the comics (though Peter's obsession with his father and it being a motivating factor of him becoming a crimefighter is not), however the presentation of said aspects from the trailers, which helpfully throws in the word "BEGINS," is intentionally modeled after aspects of Nolan's Batman reboot. Just as aspects of Batman Begins itself was modeled after elements from Raimi's Spider-Man 1 and Donner's Superman: The Movie.

You can still like the end result and admit that it was influenced by other successful films of the same genre. Especially when Sony flat out says so in the marketing. Just saying.

[chaseter]

This movie will be more grounded in reality guys. He sews his own costume!

[mayo23]

Originally Posted by DACrowe

Much of it was in the comics (though Peter's obsession with his father and it being a motivating factor of him becoming a crimefighter is not), however the presentation of said aspects from the trailers, which helpfully throws in the word "BEGINS," is intentionally modeled after aspects of Nolan's Batman reboot. Just as aspects of Batman Begins itself was modeled after elements from Raimi's Spider-Man 1 and Donner's Superman: The Movie.

You can still like the end result and admit that it was influenced by other successful films of the same genre. Especially when Sony flat out says so in the marketing. Just saying.

This is something you've just assumed and that you've ran with for a lot of your arguments. Oh, and I guess no other trailers can use the word "Begins" without it being influenced by Nolan.