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Old 06-11-2012, 08:32 AM   #101
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No, I was making fun of the poster who bashed Green Lantern to prove that Coulson's death was meaningful.
Oh okay. I didn't watch it in protest. so I've no idea who you're talking about.
I do know Agent Coulson is the guy from New adventures of old Christine. lol

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Old 06-11-2012, 09:31 AM   #102
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Oh okay. I didn't watch it in protest. so I've no idea who you're talking about.
I do know Agent Coulson is the guy from New adventures of old Christine. lol
Carol Ferris is a supporting character in the GL world, and she's an important part of the movie. and the boarder Tony Stark was trying to defend Coulson's role by bashing on GL. So I mixed up GL and avengers to show that his bashing was gratuitous IMO.

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Old 06-11-2012, 10:06 AM   #103
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Carol Ferris is a supporting character in the GL world, and she's an important part of the movie. and the boarder Tony Stark was trying to defend Coulson's role by bashing on GL. So I mixed up GL and avengers to show that his bashing was gratuitous IMO.
I know who Carol Ferris is. I watched GL several times, on screen and off screen. LOL. I did kinda like GL, so I've got no complains.
But yeah, I dont see a need to bash GL. I doubt Agent Coulson's death had much impact. The film would probably do as well if Agent Coulson didn't die.

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Carol Ferris is a supporting character in the GL world, and she's an important part of the movie. and the boarder Tony Stark was trying to defend Coulson's role by bashing on GL. So I mixed up GL and avengers to show that his bashing was gratuitous IMO.
And you still don't get it, and maybe never will. Yeah it was an exaggeration, but the fact is Clark Gregg did more with his character than pretty much 90% of the cast in GL. They even made Sinestro boring.

The point is you should have cared about the characters in GL but didn't and the fact that a side character in Marvel has more of an impact that most of the people in GL shows how badly wrong it can go.

The point it it's not about the impact to the other heroes it's about the impact to the audience. Coulson is a fan favorite, and they even put his character in the new animated Spider-man series.

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They need to get a guy who knows how to make a good comicbook movie. If you put a director who has never done one before, you more than likely will get a disappointing film.
I agree they need to get someone who can make a good comic film, but not necessarily one that has done a comic film before.

You have two extremes in this, someone like Tim Story who I think loves comic books, but just wasn't a very good director (or misplaced at best), or on the other extremem Martin Campbell who was just misplaced from the get go, but he's a great director (casino royale).

It's a bit of a balancing act. Even take someone like Burton who has flat out said he doesn't read comic books, is capable of great work in Batman '89, but when he was left to his own devices he had the rather disappointing Batman Returns.

The big thing that concerns me now is there's no producer named to this project. How can you develop a script without a producer involved? I think this could be a really good movie, but the reactionary method WB is using right now could be disastrous.

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Old 06-11-2012, 12:30 PM   #106
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And you still don't get it, and maybe never will. Yeah it was an exaggeration, but the fact is Clark Gregg did more with his character than pretty much 90% of the cast in GL. They even made Sinestro boring.

The point is you should have cared about the characters in GL but didn't and the fact that a side character in Marvel has more of an impact that most of the people in GL shows how badly wrong it can go.

The point it it's not about the impact to the other heroes it's about the impact to the audience. Coulson is a fan favorite, and they even put his character in the new animated Spider-man series.
You need to bash on GL to defend your point about Avengers, so indeed, I don't get it. Also, while I liked the movie, I have a hard time to take these heroes seriously. They shouldn't need Coulson's death to motivate them when the whole world is in danger.

And about us, as an audience, caring for Coulson, I didn't care for him at all.

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Old 06-11-2012, 12:37 PM   #107
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I really don't get what's so confusing.

Try and put yourself in that situation.

You're a hero, but you're feeling kind of unsure and reluctant about what you're being asked to do.

And because of that... Because the villain managed to get the upper hand on your entire group, a good man has died.

A man who believed in what he was doing. A man who believed whole heartedly in YOU.

It doesn't matter how well you knew him. It doesn't matter whether you even liked him. It's enough to knock some sense into you. It's enough to wanna live up to that faith he had.

And the trading cards were just a brilliant way of reminding them all of that innocent faith.

I think it's sad that so many people are like 'why would they care'
I wish I could say "Yeah, Coulson's death was depressing and inspirational"... but it wasn't. Coulson had a total of 5-6 minutes of dialogue and character development (in four films total), and the dialogue given to the character was standard.

Whedon tried to make Coulson's death symbolic and emotional, but it fell flat. The execution, in my opinion, was unsatisfactory.

When looking back to the cartoons and other CBMs, you gather a better idea of how to kill off a character who primarily resides in the background (and impacts nothing) with evoking emotional results. For instance, Dan Turpin's death from Superman: TAS was incredibly dark, shocking and sentimental for a cartoon. Then we have Ben Parker's death from Spiderman (2001) and Yinsen's death from Iron Man (2008). Both were brief but they were straight to the point and the execution was done quite well.

At this point, Darwin's death from First Class is superior to Coulson's death.

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Old 06-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #108
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I disagree with anyone saying "they made sinestro boring" I believe he was portrayed brilliantly (Even the reviews say that)
Also can we leave GL and Avengers talk in their respective forums? Lets talk Justice League here shall we.

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You need to bash on GL to defend your point about Avengers, so indeed, I don't get it. Also, while I liked the movie, I have a hard time to take these heroes seriously. They shouldn't need Coulson's death to motivate them when the whole world is in danger.

And about us, as an audience, caring for Coulson, I didn't care for him at all.
And you are fanboy bashing Avengers to defend Justice League. What's the difference? This is a director thread anyway, I'm done talking about it.

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This is a director thread for JL, please everyone let's drop the Coulson discussion.

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And you are fanboy bashing Avengers to defend Justice League. What's the difference? This is a director thread anyway, I'm done talking about it.
I'm not defending Justice League, they didn't even shot it yet...

But yeah, keep going, I'm sure i'll think Coulson's death was really tragic because you're calling me a fanboy.

Which is laughable, since a lot of people on these boards know that I've said several times that I really liked Avengers, and that it's a great movie. That doesn't mean I think it's flawless though.

I didn't care about Coulson, he was a supporting character, and I won't miss him.

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This is a director thread for JL, please everyone let's drop the Coulson discussion.
I agree, but don't add to it. You reignited the debate when you said fans just don't get 'it'.

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I disagree with anyone saying "they made sinestro boring" I believe he was portrayed brilliantly (Even the reviews say that)
Also can we leave GL and Avengers talk in their respective forums? Lets talk Justice League here shall we.
Yep. Mark Strong's Sinestro was one of the few very positive things to come out of Green Lantern. Strong's performance and Sinestro's appearance was praised by fans and critics alike. I truly hope there's a sequel or, at least, gets a shot at being the Justice League's first villain.

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Anyway, so I really think this movie needs a big time director. It really really needs it. I hated hp5 and 6 was okay, the last two were good, but I don't think Yates is good enough for this project. It needs someone like ridley Scott. I would love Peter Jackson, he does great team movies, can give it depth and an epic feeling to the movie. And the combination of PJ and JL would make the GA so excited they'd squirm.

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I thought yates did some phenomenal stuff with his last three HP films, so if he does indeed score this gig, I'll be one happy fan.

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At this point, Darwin's death from First Class is superior to Coulson's death.
Now you're just being stupid.

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I didn't find Coulson's death moving, despite liking the character. The execution was off.

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Now you're just being stupid.
Right, and your rebuttal was brimming with astronomical intellect. Now, if you're finished with resorting to cheap jabs then the directions to a more constructive discussion involves you utilizing the organ in your cranium, not your glutes.

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Has anyone read El May's tweet about him having the 20 pg. treatment for Justice League? He hasn't mentioned since then.

https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/212421149374693376

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Has anyone read El May's tweet about him having the 20 pg. treatment for Justice League? He hasn't mentioned since then.

https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/212421149374693376
Chris from Batman-News asked him if/when we could expect it and he said it depends on how WB treats him when it comes to Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what that means.

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Chris from Batman-News asked him if/when we could expect it and he said it depends on how WB treats him when it comes to Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what that means.
Well that just sounds sketchy.

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Chris from Batman-News asked him if/when we could expect it and he said it depends on how WB treats him when it comes to Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what that means.
WB has kinda blacklisted Latino Review ever since they reviewed the Batman Begins script back in 2004, revealed Brandon Routh as the new Superman in 2005, and Heath Ledger as the Joker in 2006.

That being said, it sounded like El may is not talking about the site but how good the movie is and how it's gonna perform.

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So for directors. David Yates is almost a done deal i guess? Completely fine with that. He suits JLA and it gets him off the Batman reboot shortlist, which makes me happy. Because even though i think he's a good fit for an ensemble, i dont like his work enough to have him direct Batman for a few movies.

For each of the solos, im hoping Aronofsky or Fleischer takes Batman. Some say Darren is too close to Nolans vision.. and we all want more fantasy so it doesnt look like a Nolan rip off. But he could pull it off...maybe. But i sure as hell like him better than Affleck or the other names being tossed around.

Fleischer would be better suited for that kind of script theyre working on for Flash. Del Toro might be approached for one of them, i think a GL flick post Justice League would work. Supermans got Zack Snyder. Wonder Woman & Aquaman are the only ones i can't come to a director for..

Of course my dream WW AND Batman would be done by Nicolas Winding Refn but it's not an option. Any suggestions for those two? Or for each of the solos anyway

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someone mentioned wally pfister (who'll be making his directing debut soon apparently) for wonder woman. I wouldn't be adverse. at least the film would LOOK gorgeous. as for aquaman, (and this will probably be met with a good deal of derision) but I'd like to see Tarsem Singh take on Aquaman.

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