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Old 06-13-2012, 09:23 PM   #51
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Movies used to be re released quite often because they didn't have DVDs and whatnot. I see no problem with re releasing it. Especially with new footage!

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Old 06-13-2012, 10:18 PM   #52
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If Whedon's cut is the cut we already got, then it's not a DC it's just an extended version.

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Old 06-13-2012, 11:45 PM   #53
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If Whedon's cut is the cut we already got, then it's not a DC it's just an extended version.

Whatever Disney wants to call it, I hope they re-release it with the extra footage.

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Old 06-13-2012, 11:59 PM   #54
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If Whedon's cut is the cut we already got, then it's not a DC it's just an extended version.
His initial cut was close to 3 hours. He felt it wasn't practical to release that in theaters so he removed 35 minutes of footage from it. That is what we saw in theaters. So technically this new cut would still be Whedon's cut. At this point, Marvel doesn't really care about whether a 3 hour film is practical because its alread a HUGE success so this would just bring even more revenue. This release of Whedon's initial cut would be icing on the cake for both the fans and the studio.

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Old 06-14-2012, 01:43 AM   #55
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His initial cut was close to 3 hours. He felt it wasn't practical to release that in theaters so he removed 35 minutes of footage from it. That is what we saw in theaters. So technically this new cut would still be Whedon's cut. At this point, Marvel doesn't really care about whether a 3 hour film is practical because its alread a HUGE success so this would just bring even more revenue. This release of Whedon's initial cut would be icing on the cake for both the fans and the studio.
Well he's the director, so EVERY cut that he oversaw would technically be "Whedon's Cut." But the fact is (or at least what he's said is) that the version released in theaters IS the director's cut. All the other stuff he trimmed because of pacing and character focus issues. Just because his original cut was 3-hours doesn't mean that was his ideal final product. Hell, that may have even been the assembly cut. According to Whedon, we've seen his ideal final product.

That said, I want to see the extended version, dammit.

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Old 06-14-2012, 02:47 AM   #56
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We got a 143 minute movie, not like it was super short like many people complained and feared it would.

And if it includes an alternate opening and ending with Maria Hill's interrogation basically making the whole movie a flashback . . . do you guys really want to see that?

The way the movie was book ended with Thanos was so much better.

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Old 06-14-2012, 05:15 AM   #57
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We got a 143 minute movie, not like it was super short like many people complained and feared it would.

And if it includes an alternate opening and ending with Maria Hill's interrogation basically making the whole movie a flashback . . . do you guys really want to see that?

The way the movie was book ended with Thanos was so much better.

I would rather not see the Hill interrogation at all, much less bookending the film. Smulders' performance in the rest of the movie was uninspired and the addition of those sequences would add nothing.


Having said that, I really want to see the other material that was excised from the film on the big screen, if possible. One can only hope that if Disney does re-release The Avengers, the editors will leave Smulders' flat, blank-eyed performance as it was in the original and not add any more of her scenes to the new cut.

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Old 06-14-2012, 05:36 AM   #58
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His initial cut was close to 3 hours. He felt it wasn't practical to release that in theaters so he removed 35 minutes of footage from it. That is what we saw in theaters. So technically this new cut would still be Whedon's cut. At this point, Marvel doesn't really care about whether a 3 hour film is practical because its alread a HUGE success so this would just bring even more revenue. This release of Whedon's initial cut would be icing on the cake for both the fans and the studio.
No. The assembly cut was near 3 h long. Then he decided to make a better movie by cuting what was making it a worse one. Thats the cut we got. Dont make things up.

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Old 06-14-2012, 07:52 AM   #59
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No. The assembly cut was near 3 h long. Then he decided to make a better movie by cuting what was making it a worse one. Thats the cut we got. Dont make things up.
I don't think it was anything as simplistic as "better or "worse", so much as creating a movie that successfully balanced the main characters. A storytelling decision was taken during editing that rather than being Cap's story it would be an Avengers story.

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Old 06-14-2012, 08:43 AM   #60
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I hate they all say "this is my cut". Yeah YOUR cut to fit freakin TWO hours so the danged Theaters can get more shows in a day.

I want to see What the film would be like if Joss had all day to show a film, not that it HAS to be all day, just what ever amount of time it takes to have him say what he wants.

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Old 06-14-2012, 05:17 PM   #61
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I would definitely watch this. The more footage the better!

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I'd love to see the additional footage and would gladly see this cut in theaters.

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Old 06-14-2012, 05:49 PM   #63
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Good, bad, I'll still watch the hell out of it. Hell, I'd do that if it was an extra thirty minutes of the team eating schawarma.

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Old 06-14-2012, 10:17 PM   #64
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I hate they all say "this is my cut". Yeah YOUR cut to fit freakin TWO hours so the danged Theaters can get more shows in a day.
Yeah, and? That's as much a part of the process of making a movie as anything else. A director has to keep his/her audience in mind.

Remember, Whedon called his three hour cut "self indulgent", not 'too long for Marvel'.

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Old 06-14-2012, 11:06 PM   #65
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I don't have a thing against an extended release on principle. Movies are a business and no one is forced to go back again if they don't want to pay.

But some of these deleted scenes don't sound very good. Making the whole movie a flashback during a Maria Hill interrogation? Way to rob the film of its sense of immediacy and suspense. There's a reason most movies are flashbacks in their entirety.

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I think some people here are being hard on Smulders. Her acting was fine IMO, it was just the way her character was written. Her role wasn't written as Maria Hill, big shot character from the recent comics. It was a small supporting role, pretty much a bit part or named cameo.

The movie was trying to portray her as Nick Fury's would-be conscience, showing some quiet doubt or disapproval toward his controversial decisions. However, movie Maria was a total professional who wouldn't outwardly speak up to question her boss. I'm fine with that. Not every character has to be charismatic and emotive, because real people aren't like that. Especially not such a small character.

I still don't want to see her to bookend the movie though. If anything, such a scene would be unnecessary for the character, the way I saw her and described above.


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Old 06-14-2012, 11:33 PM   #66
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One, it's an obvious ploy just to turn more bucks.

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Old 06-14-2012, 11:42 PM   #67
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It's not underhanded at all. Underhanded is when George Lucas releases the trilogy, and then again 6 months later with some deleted scenes.

You paid money to see the movie and you got to see the movie. It's not as if it was cut or edited in a way that made it not a complete movie. Everybody saw it and loved it. Now that they know there's an audience, they figure some of us will pay to see more. We will.

Nobody got cheated.
6 months? I could've sworn that there were years between each re-release, and that the releases had new scenes rather than just deleted ones. Fans can like or dislike whatever they want, but one of the things that bugs me about Star Wars fandom is their tendency to exaggerate criticisms.

Agree on the rest though. Another thing that bugs me about fandoms of all kinds is the desire to seem individualist or anti-corporation, by loudly complaining about businesses doing business.

If someone wants to pay money to see an elongated Avengers, then good for him. Not like that's so much worse than buying the DVD or Blu-Ray. Ha, maybe Disney shouldn't "re-release" the movie on any disks at all. That's just a blatant attempt to make money!

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Old 06-15-2012, 02:04 PM   #69
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No. The assembly cut was near 3 h long. Then he decided to make a better movie by cuting what was making it a worse one. Thats the cut we got. Dont make things up.
In an interview right before the release Whedon said that there would be 35 minutes of material on the bluray that were removed from his initial cut because he felt it may have been too self indulgent for a theatrical release. Assembly cut or initial cut it is still a cut made by whedon so technically it is still a directors cut. Any cut of any film put together by a director could be called a directors cut. Furthermore whedon never said his initial cut was bad. He said it was too self indulgent for a theatrical release. Self indulgent doesn't automatically mean it was bad. Whedon never said the initial cut was bad so how about YOU stop making things up.

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I think the key difference, aside from the 3 hour version being much more about Cap adjusting to the modern world, is that, according to Whedon, he took his ego out of the film. In other words, the 3 hour cut will be much more Whedon-y. Probably plenty of pop culture references, sarcastic dialogue etc.

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I would no doubt see an extended cut if it was released. More of a film I already love? Flip yeah.

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Good, bad, I'll still watch the hell out of it. Hell, I'd do that if it was an extra thirty minutes of the team eating schawarma.
I'd watch another 60 of them standing up against a brick wall

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Old 06-15-2012, 03:39 PM   #73
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I have no problem with a re-release or an extended cut/DC whatever as long as they don't go the LOTR route with new DVD editions every two years and nothing new than a few commentaries or making ofs. That's obviously milking the fans and too much of it. As they did with Kingdom of heaven an theatrical cut and an extended edition I would buy both.

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I say release it! I am so over James Cameron's cheese-ball Chick-flicks being number 1 and 2!!!

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