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Old 06-27-2014, 05:12 AM   #1
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I just wanna get this over with, i really hope they change it.

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Old 06-27-2014, 10:43 AM   #2
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Its not going to change soon, IMO. Not only is there still a lot of time before release, but Marvel has a strong incentive not to change. If they do, it'll basically be open season for everyone to poach their release dates.

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Old 06-27-2014, 12:12 PM   #3
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I just wanna get this over with, i really hope they change it.
why would they? they have nothing to lose here.

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Old 06-27-2014, 04:12 PM   #4
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At this point it's all conjecture but I think odds are WB will budge first.

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Its not going to change soon, IMO. Not only is there still a lot of time before release, but Marvel has a strong incentive not to change. If they do, it'll basically be open season for everyone to poach their release dates.
Except it's not their release date. I'm probably in the minority, but I'd love to see what happens on opening weekend if BvS and CA3 debut together. I'd go to both, and so would many others. Maybe one film or both would lose overall box office, I dunno. But what a contest to witness! Pretty exciting stuff.

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Old 06-28-2014, 11:23 AM   #6
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MOS2 vs CA3 would be a competition. Avengers vs JLA would be a competition. BvS is just gonna straight up win again CA3. It just comes down to how much overall box office they're willing to lose over it.

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Old 06-28-2014, 01:09 PM   #7
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MOS2 vs CA3 would be a competition. Avengers vs JLA would be a competition. BvS is just gonna straight up win again CA3. It just comes down to how much overall box office they're willing to lose over it.
I disagree... BvS is the entire franchise for DC. Cap is just one of several horses in Marvel's stable. If Cap can steal any of BvS' fanfare its a win.

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Old 06-28-2014, 03:37 PM   #8
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In the end one of them will change their release date and they won't actually end up going against each other the same day.

I feel WB should move BvS (vWWvCvA) because they have way more riding on that movie than Marvel does with Cap 3.

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MOS2 vs CA3 would be a competition. Avengers vs JLA would be a competition. BvS is just gonna straight up win again CA3. It just comes down to how much overall box office they're willing to lose over it.
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. But BvS has more to lose here. They are putting all their eggs in one basket to get this franchise started, WB can't actually afford this movie to lose money to Cap 3 while on the other hand Cap 3 is just one more movie of an overall very strong performing megafranchise. They haven't had a financial flop yet to the point where it doesn't matter that much how much money Cap 3 makes as long as it isn't a total disaster (which it won't be) and from a marketing point of view every cent Cap 3 makes is a cent WB failed to make with a movie that features Bats, Supes, Wonder Woman, Cyborg and Aquaman.

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Old 06-28-2014, 07:07 PM   #10
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I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. But BvS has more to lose here. They are putting all their eggs in one basket to get this franchise started, WB can't actually afford this movie to lose money to Cap 3 while on the other hand Cap 3 is just one more movie of an overall very strong performing megafranchise. They haven't had a financial flop yet to the point where it doesn't matter that much how much money Cap 3 makes as long as it isn't a total disaster (which it won't be) and from a marketing point of view every cent Cap 3 makes is a cent WB failed to make with a movie that features Bats, Supes, Wonder Woman, Cyborg and Aquaman.

After Winter Soldier, there should be no doubts about Cap 3. They are keeping the same writers and directors... I'm confident that they'll knock it out of the park again

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Old 06-29-2014, 10:02 AM   #11
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I have no doubt that Cap 3 will be a higher quality/better movie. But Batman and Superman together is just too much of an event for CA3 to win total gross. There are no moral victories at the box office.

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Someone will move at some point.

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I just hope one of them moves, or they will both lose money.

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Old 06-30-2014, 10:05 AM   #14
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I hope Cap3 moves back a few months to July, for no other reason than to give them more time to develop the script and make the best film possible.

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Old 07-01-2014, 08:11 PM   #15
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I disagree... BvS is the entire franchise for DC. Cap is just one of several horses in Marvel's stable. If Cap can steal any of BvS' fanfare its a win.

I agree.....
BvS need all the good vibes and sales as possible....they are banking their entire universe on this movie....
Where Cap in his 3rd installment.....makes a dent in DC's armor...its a win for Cap

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I have no doubt that Cap 3 will be a higher quality/better movie. But Batman and Superman together is just too much of an event for CA3 to win total gross. There are no moral victories at the box office.
Cap 3 won't win the head-to-head battle, but if it can deny BvS from making as much money as Avengers it'd be perceived as a victory. BvS may as well be called JL because they have put way too many JL heroes in there, despite what the title may suggest. If it doesn't make Avengers money, people will say that it failed in its goal.

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Old 07-06-2014, 10:40 AM   #17
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Cap 3 won't win the head-to-head battle, but if it can deny BvS from making as much money as Avengers it'd be perceived as a victory. BvS may as well be called JL because they have put way too many JL heroes in there, despite what the title may suggest. If it doesn't make Avengers money, people will say that it failed in its goal.
And remember, its not just a matter of public reaction. WB themselves have been skittish before; a SvB that doesn't meet their ( probably unrealistic? ) expectations will likely set off another wave of dithering and rewrites.

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BvS won't make Avengers money! It will, in all probability, hit a billion dollars unless reviews/WOM are utter crap (which may not be out of the question) but there's absolutely no way it threatens the Avengers's BO position.

It isn't a question of simply slapping together a couple of (albeit extremely popular) heroes and expecting it to destroy at the BO. It's about carefully planning, orchestrating and executing your vision over multiple films. Marvel Studios did this and were rewarded with the Avengers, and the overwhelmingly positive reception to their subsequent films. If the rumors are true, this is something WB/DC is only now starting to attempt.

If they're as intelligent, meticulous, and yes, awesome as Marvel were as they go about their process they deserve and will achieve all the success in the world. Else, it will turn out to be an unsustainable cheap trick that yields diminishing returns at the BO... much like Spidey in his current iteration.

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I dunno. Transformers 3 made a billion. There's no accounting for tastes.

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BvS will slaughter this movie if Cap 3 stays. I want both movies to be successful. But Marvel should move.. there's no way they win this one. It'd negatively impact BvS' box office, but at the detriment of Cap 3.

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I dunno. Transformers 3 made a billion. There's no accounting for tastes.
Transformers benefits from *far* more nostalgia factor than this would.

Also, its still being directed by Snyder and written by Goyer. I see zero reason to assume it will review any better, *unless* Affleck basically takes over the creative direction. And given that MoS was insanely front-loaded. . . points towards MoS only doing so well because the strong marketing got everyone out on day 1. Strong marketing can only do so much when you now have an objective reason for expecting poor quality.

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I just hope one of them moves, or they will both lose money.
CB Fans will see both films so the 'one will lose money' issue I think isn't as prevlant as people are making out.

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Marvel has an established screen brand. They're following up on the critically acclaimed and bankable CATWS.

DC have Superman and Batman.

DC is obviously making a symbolic move, going one on one with Marvel and likely winning, but there's probably no way they'll make the kind of serious bank they want.

I think it'd be best if both chose a new (different release date).

Honestly, I'm less worried with how much CA3 grosses and more what it'll mean to CA3's pre-production. I don't want Marvel to try and go too big with quantity over quality.

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I think DC should move to July or something, because honestly it'll hurt both of them, and prevent both of them from reaching it's full box office potential.

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Probably july.

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