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Somehow The Last Stand - the way it portrayed teamwork and the scale of its climax - seem much more tame than Avengers, which really embraced the idea of a super-team against a global threat. The X-Men are also much more furtive and 'in hiding' than Avengers. I think it's time now for a more structured, confident approach to the X-Men. Go big, but don't forget the character development and themes that the X-Men has and the Avengers totally lacked. DoFP will be great for doing some housekeeping on the continuity. It could even allow for some character moments for Xavier and his struggles with disability. First Class Xavier could learn that future Xavier is/was still in a wheelchair, and hence has to accept there is no advancement in medicine that will enable him to walk again It could even be mentioned by Xavier that 'I did have some success with an experimental treatment developed with Erik in the 1980s, but in the end my body rejected it, and it didn't last in the long term' - and that could explain how Xavier was walking at the end of Wolverine and the beginning of The Last stand. The reference to Erik being a hint at the comics story where Magneto used nanobots to enable Xavier to walk again.
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Wolverine comes charging at him, and Magneto just holds out his hand to trying to stop him, an it does nothing... an you just see that oh s*** look on his face lol |
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maybe...
I was more picturing a scenario where old magneto is unexpectedly brought back in time and he didn't know when or where he was, yet... |
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If this movie is going to have Halle Berry and Hugh Jackman, I say $500 million.
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I just want Fox to learn with Avengers! Keep the quality and elegance of X-men first class and make it bigger, mmooore epiic!!It needs to amaze people!It needs to be a real X-men movie! Is it so hard? I want it to make plenty of money. Want x-men movies forever lol
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me too!
like 10 more movies or so, and Id be happy for the rest of my life, lol |
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With Marvel's unanounced project moving to 8/1/2014 that is certainly going to steal some of the BO thunder away from the FC sequel. And it all but guarantees no 3 weeks at #1 in the BO.
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mm, didnt thought about that!
damm... well, maybe Fox moves the sequel to May, some weeks after the Spiderman sequel.... who knows? |
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Remember when I said Fox shouldn't let the unannounced Marvel film scare them away
from May 2014 release.Well now Marvel has their film moved to August. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes has memorial day now. X-Men ![]() |
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I can understand why Hugh Jackman would be a draw, but Halle Berry? Her career hasn't exactly been hot in the last six years, and I never got an impression that Storm was all that popular with general movie goers. To me personally, she just mostly seemed awkward in the role.
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people just like to see more well known faces together. And the press would pay more attention to the movie, without doubt. It would be kind of an event, to have both actors coming back, instead of just Hugh.
And at the same time, I think some users give Hugh to much credit. If we take a look at the boxoffice of all his movies... he isnt a guarantee of a big impact at all. On the list of the top 20/30 biggest movies in history, he isnt there, so we should open our minds a little bit. The biggest movies in history arent about the actors at all, but about the issue and genre and the general audience's taste. |
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Storm is a popular character who has been treated mainly as a special effects machine in the movies (much like Riptide was in First Class). It's true to say she does allow for some spectacular actions scenes, but it's a shame her backstory hasn't been a little more explored. I'm a Storm fan, of course, but I think it's fair to say the character has several things to offer: 1) another female character 2) a powerful character 3) a black character 4) a sexy (visually appealing) character 4) exciting action/effects sequences. And that's all without including her interesting origin story. The films have really missed an opportunity to show her choice and responsibility in leaving behind the tribes in Africa - where she protected people who worshipped her for her powers - to come to a Western society where she protected a people who hate her for her mutant powers. That is a brilliant angle to explore. She decided to live in a totally opposite world, where she (and the rest of mutantkind) is feared and hated rather than revered. Regardless of whether Halle Berry is involved or not, I think Storm deserves to be a part of this franchise. Whether we need her in the First Class franchise is arguable (as she has had very good exposure in the existing films, even without the inclusion of backstory), but the African origin of the comics gives her an interesting standpoint that could be used - and her connection to Shadow King could be utilised. It's clear that at least the excitement and drama of weather powers is recognised by the producers/director/writers or we wouldn't have had Riptide in First Class. He was just Storm-lite, and ironically just as forgotten and dismissed as Storm. In fact, even more so, as he had zero dialogue.
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totally agree with all your points.
That's why Id like to see Storm in the third of fourth part of this new series. but not yet. Scott and Jean should come first, to have a worthy introduction, and after that, its time for young Storm. Each time I think about the possibility to see young Storm and Banshee both flying in a future x-men movie I get really excited. It would be such an epic moment, for me, after the past movies without any decent flying scene. |
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Transformers is a guaranteed smash, the next Apes will also do well. The rest are less certain at this stage. X-Men is three weeks after Transformers and two weeks before the untitled Marvel movie. Would it make any difference to bring X-Men forward so it's two weeks after Transformers? Not sure. But at least the time-travel DoFP of the X-Men arrives before the Marvel film, which seems likely to be the time-travel story of Guardians of the Galaxy. These summers are now so crowded that films don't have time to breathe. There are too many movies being made, we all lead very busy lives without much leisure time to see them all, and in this economy people are being careful with their money so they don't take the risks in seeing everything. I hear at work all the time how people haven't had chance to get to see a film and some give up and say they will wait for the DVD, or that it's too expensive to take all the family to see it.
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Yeah, dont have to worry about the copycat debates anymore. I think people would jump on X Men alot heavier.
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I have a cynical suspicion that if the studio wanted to add a female character to the First Class series they'd want to go with someone younger. Hollywood is much less kind to ageing women as opposed to men, I wouldn't be surprised if age is partly a reason why Halle hasn't been onscreen much in the last few years.
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Fox has a pretty good portion of that covered with Jennifer Lawrence, but who knows? Beyond that, I can't think of another young woman that would be more of a box office draw than even an older Halle Berry reprising her role as Storm.
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If they want someone younger, maybe Zoe Saldana or Paula Patton who are a decade younger than Halle. If they wanted someone in their teens or 20s, it gets more difficult. Freida Pinto? If they wanted someone older than Halle, then how about Iman, who is still stunning at 56 and was the physical basis for comic book Storm in the first place. Or they could use Iman to play Storm's mother if they ever used the origin story.
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If Storm is to be in the sequel, she should be young. Her origin story is interesting enough and olderStorm in the older movies didn't offer us any shred of interesting story to warrant bringing her back. Sorry dude, I know you love Storm but to me she was a way better character in the old cartoon and comics. Halle couldn't seem to figure out who Storm was. Her personality (and accent) changed in all three films, and not in a growing-character-arc way but more of an I-can't-remember-this-character-let's-wing-it way. I really can't see what HalleStorm could bring to the table that a wee Storm couldn't, and make more exciting while doing it. At this point the only remaining X-Men I can see as BO draws are Sir Patrick and Sir Ian. Last edited by blueserenity; 07-04-2012 at 05:18 AM. |
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Yeah, that was my feeling as well. Though I think that the director was probably just as much to blame for Storm being a kinda "nothing" character. |
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At this point I think the biggest BO draw is Fassbender, possibly even moreso than Lawrence despite her Hunger Games role. I'm not removing McAvoy from the equation as his performance is the one I'm most interested in for the sequel, but the fact of the matter is that he's not in the spotlight at the moment so I think his star power isn't as strong as the other two. Hopefully this doesn't affect his screentime. Charles has got a helluva fire to walk through. Quote:
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But if they make yet ANOTHER GD movie about Wolverine, I will not pay money to see this movie. And I know I'm far from alone on that. 1 minute cameo is fine. But he brings absolutely NOTHING to the table that would warrant him in the film for longer than that. I love Wolverine and Hugh Jackman, really I do, but enough is enough already. XMFC is the start of something so much better... a series of films WITHOUT him. Honestly one of the reasons I loved XMFC was that it was fresh, it focused on different characters. Wolverine branching off into his own films is a perfect move, because it means that people who love the character can go enjoy even more of his story... and it means X-Men films no longer have to put him in the picture. Anything left to say about the character can be said in his own movies. Last edited by blueserenity; 07-04-2012 at 06:58 AM. |
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And I think the untitled Marvel movie won't be The Avengers 2 because I don't picture it getting an August release date.
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