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Old 12-13-2012, 02:16 PM   #626
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Personally, I feel there's been so much EPIC EPIC EPIC in the recent films that I can't help feeling kinda jaded about it all; there's a whole lot of epic and not that much genuinely memorable. Like, that last battle in The Avengers was "epic", but about the only thing that stuck in my mind about it was the cool fish-like design of the alien ship. And so much of it feels like stuff I've already seen in the other movies; when I watched that Star Trek teaser I went, oh this reminds me of this film and that reminds me of that movie.
I see your point. But it's more than the battle scene. The general camerawork is more 'bold' and there were scenes set in bright light in public places. The X-Men always seem to be scurrying around in the shadows in dimly lit interior spaces or remote locations. It's time for them to 'come out'!

Is it any wonder that a key shot from Avengers, used in the marketing materials, was that image of the team standing in a circle in ruined Manhattan? That's because it was big, bold, colourful and the characters looked confident of who they were and what they stood for. In contrast, the X-Men are much more neurotic in the films, nervously hiding away. Part of that fits the story, of course, but there must also be some scope for presenting them in a much bolder format.

Cyclops should have had that commanding air of Captain America, Storm should have that confident flying of Iron Man and the sexiness of Black Widow, Colossus/Juggernaut etc should have that impressively computer-generated presence of Hulk, etc, etc.

In character portrayals and comic-book accuracy, The Avengers ruled. And it showed at the box office. Mainstream audiences lapped it up too, never questioning the costumes and the blend of gods, monsters and hi-tech billionaires.

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Old 12-13-2012, 02:33 PM   #627
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It does really need a past time period, just a past event that causes the future. Any of the events in the x-men trilogy constitute as past when the future happens.
What's the point of involving the FC characters at all then? If the past takes place during the original trilogy, why would the future mutant not just team up with the X-Men team that already exists there? The 60's characters become completely unnecessary in this scenario.

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Old 12-13-2012, 03:19 PM   #628
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What's the point of involving the FC characters at all then? If the past takes place during the original trilogy, why would the future mutant not just team up with the X-Men team that already exists there? The 60's characters become completely unnecessary in this scenario.
Not really... The young versions may be what the future person feels is the start of the problem. Basically nipping everything in the bud rather than simply trying to stop one event, you stop all that lead up to it.

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so now that Bryan and co. are gonna adapt a specific storyarc, some of you want them to change the concept of the movie and do something else with it.

and then fans blame the studios and directors changing stuff

what an irony
Um its quite clear this won't be the exact same story

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Old 12-13-2012, 03:24 PM   #630
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The first Class era will start the chain of events that leads to sentinles before the time travel plot.

As I keep saying some need to get animated version of DOFP out of their heads.The 90's show version pulled lot of various X-men elements.Bishop wasn't even part of DOFP
storyline.WOlverine was only X-Man alive In future.The assasssination happened In 1990's and future was In 2050's.Nimroid was only Included so they could have a fight in part 1.

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Not really... The young versions may be what the future person feels is the start of the problem. Basically nipping everything in the bud rather than simply trying to stop one event, you stop all that lead up to it.
magneto23 is right though. If the event is something that took place during the original trilogy, then you go back to THEN to prevent it. Not 50 years before it happens. That idea makes the First Class character useless, and since this is a First Class sequel, they are the main focus. The event happens in the 60's, and Xavier and his X-Men have to prevent it.

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Um its quite clear this won't be the exact same story
Yes It won't be don eexactly the same way.But Bryan himself said It would be cross between Original comic story and new Ideas.That says It will be cross
between original comc and new ideas not the animated show.And some are advocating doing It so It bears no resembalance to original story.They will take some core Ideas from story and work to make story work with past being
with first Class cast and fuutre with original films cast.

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magneto23 is right though. If the event is something that took place during the original trilogy, then you go back to THEN to prevent it. Not 50 years before it happens. That idea makes the First Class character useless, and since this is a First Class sequel, they are the main focus. The event happens in the 60's, and Xavier and his X-Men have to prevent it.
Exactly.Before the time traveling stuff happens an event happens that will
set In motion the future with Sentinles.

It's very unlikely Bryan Singer will reference the Last Stand.He may not be able to completly throw It out but there will be no eference to cure or Xavier's mind being In twin brother's body.And the plot with sentinles has nothing to do with the Last Stand.

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magneto23 is right though. If the event is something that took place during the original trilogy, then you go back to THEN to prevent it. Not 50 years before it happens. That idea makes the First Class character useless, and since this is a First Class sequel, they are the main focus. The event happens in the 60's, and Xavier and his X-Men have to prevent it.
First of all you need to get it out of your head that this is simply an fc sequel. Its not. Its a sequel to both fc and the singer films. That much is evident.

As i said before, what if its not a single event the time traveler wants to prevent? What if its several? What if its the very path sine characters were on that lead them down the road. Its inefficient to just simply delete the event because like any time travel story.... History tends to repeat itself. So why not diverge the path in the beginning? Where the seeds were planted..... In the early days of the xmen

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That much is not evident from anything. Everything about this film, from its inception until now, has pointed to being a First Class sequel. And that's not suprising since it's still DoFP and you can't tell a DoFP story without the current timeline (First Class) being front and center in trying to prevent a huge event.

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It Is not as simple as just a first Class sequel.Yes majority of film will be seen In first Class
era.It depends on how much time has elapsed.It Is part sequel to Bryan Singer's X-Men films(which first Class can also be seen as One)

we most likely are looking at 130 Minutes In past and 30 minutes In dark future.The dark future can be seen as possable fuutre for the X-men/X2 characters.

Wolverine or Rogue(or less likely but still possible Kitty) going physically In past Is possibly so they can have an originl film cast member interacting with first Class cast.
Which by the way no matter how you look at It First Class was still worldwide the lowest
grossing X-Men film.

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That much is not evident from anything. Everything about this film, from its inception until now, has pointed to being a First Class sequel. And that's not suprising since it's still DoFP and you can't tell a DoFP story without the current timeline (First Class) being front and center in trying to prevent a huge event.
Where do you get that First Class is the current timeline? First Class was a prequel! And when The Wolverine comes out, which is the next film to be released...our attention will be brought back to the original trilogy timeline.

Also Matthew Vaughn said a year ago that there would be a sequel to First Class...in that time it's also been said that X4 was still a possibility. The title to the new X-Men film was revealed to be "Days of Future Past", it would be an epic story involving time travel and giant robots. Cast members from First Class and the original trilogy are set to appear...I don't recall anyone saying since DoFP was announced that it would be the direct sequel to First Class and focus on the First Class team.

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Is it any wonder that a key shot from Avengers, used in the marketing materials, was that image of the team standing in a circle in ruined Manhattan? That's because it was big, bold, colourful and the characters looked confident of who they were and what they stood for. In contrast, the X-Men are much more neurotic in the films, nervously hiding away. Part of that fits the story, of course, but there must also be some scope for presenting them in a much bolder format.
I guess the difference is that X-Men movies don't really present their characters as these bold god-like beings, but rather as just people with extraordinary abilities. I can see the appeal of the other style, but personally I do prefer the more low-key realistic approach rather than the more cartoonish style of The Avengers.

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That much is not evident from anything. Everything about this film, from its inception until now, has pointed to being a First Class sequel. And that's not suprising since it's still DoFP and you can't tell a DoFP story without the current timeline (First Class) being front and center in trying to prevent a huge event.
yeah... it has nothing to do with the singer films.. but keeps casting the cast from them

not to mention, this film completely drops half the FC cast... and seems to be adding half the old one.

this forum is for SPECULATION. this is what I am speculating. It's just as valid as yours.

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not to mention, this film completely drops half the FC cast... and seems to be adding half the old one.
Erm... so who exactly from the old cast has been officially added? Stress on officially.

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Where do you get that First Class is the current timeline? First Class was a prequel! And when The Wolverine comes out, which is the next film to be released...our attention will be brought back to the original trilogy timeline.

Also Matthew Vaughn said a year ago that there would be a sequel to First Class...in that time it's also been said that X4 was still a possibility. The title to the new X-Men film was revealed to be "Days of Future Past", it would be an epic story involving time travel and giant robots. Cast members from First Class and the original trilogy are set to appear...I don't recall anyone saying since DoFP was announced that it would be the direct sequel to First Class and focus on the First Class team.
thats what i'm thinking. i think they actually might be merging FC2 and X4 into one just like they did X-men Origins: Magneto & X-men First Class into one film (they were suppose to be separate films originally)

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Erm... so who exactly from the old cast has been officially added? Stress on officially.
... they might as well be. Famke is appearing in The Wolverine, Jackman, Mckellan, and Stewart are all under negotiations and have said they'd be happy to return, and Alan said he'd love to but has not currently been asked.

they might not be "official" but other than Alan (who hasn't been asked) they might as well be.


add to that with Famke in Wolverine, and Rebecca in FC... would it really shock anyone for their reappearance? It show's there both willing to return in the roles.

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First Class actors were dropped?
im just mentioning which ones so far arn't returning... I believe so far only Magneto, Xavier, Mystique, and Beast...

Emma Frost, and the rest of Magneto's new crew so far have not been announced, nor has Banshee, Havok or Moira

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That much is not evident from anything. Everything about this film, from its inception until now, has pointed to being a First Class sequel. And that's not suprising since it's still DoFP and you can't tell a DoFP story without the current timeline (First Class) being front and center in trying to prevent a huge event.
Maybe so. But the overriding interest online (and probably also from the mainstream) is for the familiar faces from the original trilogy. Sadly, hardly anyone seems to be clamouring for more Azazel, or more Emma Frost, more Banshee or more Havok, they seem to be wanting Famke, James Marsden, Alan Cumming and others to come back!

The difficulty is the original cast is getting old and the younger cast are still relative unknowns. Even Jennifer Lawrence isn't really a household name.

Are they just bringing back the original trilogy actors for one final farewell in an Avengers-inspired mega-teamup? What then? Who will lead the franchise in future?

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Maybe so. But the overriding interest online (and probably also from the mainstream) is for the familiar faces from the original trilogy. Sadly, hardly anyone seems to be clamouring for more Azazel, or more Emma Frost, more Banshee or more Havok, they seem to be wanting Famke, James Marsden, Alan Cumming and others to come back!

The difficulty is the original cast is getting old and the younger cast are still relative unknowns. Even Jennifer Lawrence isn't really a household name.

Are they just bringing back the original trilogy actors for one final farewell in an Avengers-inspired mega-teamup? What then? Who will lead the franchise in future?
another reason i think this film might be a "passing of the torch"

and honestly.. the "future" portion of this film fits beyond perfect for all the aging actors.. it makes perfect sense for them to be older.

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Passing of the torch to who though? The old cast? So, the old cast pass the torch to FC cast for one movie and then FC cast pass the torch back to the original cast? That's a lot of passing back and forward!

Plus I keep seeing the mention of Avengers and mega-teamup and event film, but I can't see how exactly this will happen when the two casts are stuck in their respective timelines and don't actually interact. Besides, even if you put two casts together, as far as general audience is aware you're still making another X-Men movie rather than starting a whole new separate brand like The Avengers.

I don't see the fact that there isn't much clamouring for the return of minor/secondary characters from FC as a big sign. Is anyone out there clamouring for the return of Sabertooth or Iceman? And honestly, the only original character who the mainstream audience would *really* get excited about is Wolverine.

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Passing of the torch to who though? The old cast? So, the old cast pass the torch to FC cast for one movie and then FC cast pass the torch back to the original cast? That's a lot of passing back and forward!

Plus I keep seeing the mention of Avengers and mega-teamup and event film, but I can't see how exactly this will happen when the two casts are stuck in their respective timelines and don't actually interact. Besides, even if you put two casts together, as far as general audience is aware you're still making another X-Men movie rather than starting a whole new separate brand like The Avengers.

I don't see the fact that there isn't much clamouring for the return of minor/secondary characters from FC as a big sign. Is anyone out there clamouring for the return of Sabertooth or Iceman? And honestly, the only original character who the mainstream audience would *really* get excited about is Wolverine.
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no.. the Old Cast is saying there goodbyes for one final time, for the first class cast to continue the franchise on... VERY similar to Star Trek (though.. that only had old spock)

i'd love to see iceman and sabre tooth (schriber) return

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I don't see the fact that there isn't much clamouring for the return of minor/secondary characters from FC as a big sign. Is anyone out there clamouring for the return of Sabertooth or Iceman? And honestly, the only original character who the mainstream audience would *really* get excited about is Wolverine.
I would be stoked if Schreiber comes back at some point, and Iceman. As long as they put him more to use.

General audience probably wouldnt care as much, but if if Booby was shown Ice sliding in the trailers that would def get people excited. Could be a really sick effect.

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no.. the Old Cast is saying there goodbyes for one final time, for the first class cast to continue the franchise on... VERY similar to Star Trek (though.. that only had old spock)
Ah ok I see I've misunderstood. I still think that "passing of the torch" is one film too late. They've already made one film with a brand new cast, it seems odd that the old cast would then pass the torch in the second film.

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