Characterization of the Knight - Nolan and Bale's Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 2

[kvz5]

Originally Posted by Greens

Nope, no scar. He looks good in that scene

He does. He looked years younger and not weathered like how he looked at some of the scenes. The funny thing is Bale did that scene in the middle of the shoot so it's still a wonder how he looked so different there compared to the scenes where he looked weathered.

[Baneis8feettall]

Originally Posted by kvz5

He does. He looked years younger and not weathered like how he looked at some of the scenes. The funny thing is Bale did that scene in the middle of the shoot so it's still a wonder how he looked so different there compared to the scenes where he looked weathered.

He does that.

[TheDarkKnight08]

Bale's performance here as Batman in this series is nothing but iconic, with this film solidifying this as a fact. I know some people aren't fond of his performance, as well as Nolan's overall reinterpretation of the Batman mythology, but the impact of the trilogy will last for a very long time. There was a lot of imagery and iconography in this film that I'd been waiting to see in a film, including seeing Bruce, maskless, in the cave, and having Bruce go through such a monumental struggle in order to do what he does best: kick some serious ass and save Gotham City. Seeing that finally on-screen, plus many other things, makes this my absolute favorite Batman movie. And, with this one, there really is no question anymore: Bale's the best Batman. I'm almost nervous to see who they end up casting, as they probably won't live up to Bale and his interpretation.

[godisawesome]

Anybody else really like the part where the cops emerge from the tunnel after imprisonment and the first thing they see is Batman just standing there? I just like how it kind of comes off as him affirming he's on their side, will be fighting with them, and how it kind of seems like a general reviewing his troops.

[kvz5]

I think the rankings are a bit messed up but still a good read:

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/wo...christian-bale

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by kvz5

I think the rankings are a bit messed up but still a good read:

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/wo...christian-bale

I approve overall

[craigdbfan]

Good to see his performance as Howl so high up there. An amazing vocal performance right there.

[herolee10]

So after having seen TDKR to its fullest, I'm just curious:

I've read some claiming that if Bruce had undergone the same trauma that Harvey had gone, physical and emotional, and had been pushed by the Joker to that breaking point that he would have fallen into darkness as well. Would you guys say that's true or false after seeing what Bruce underwent in TDKR?

[hafizbat]

Originally Posted by herolee10

So after having seen TDKR to its fullest, I'm just curious:

I've read some claiming that if Bruce had undergone the same trauma that Harvey had gone, physical and emotional, and had been pushed by the Joker to that breaking point that he would have fallen into darkness as well. Would you guys say that's true or false after seeing what Bruce underwent in TDKR?

I believe the whole point of the trilogy, or at least TDKR, was to show that he would not. He DID go thru what Harvey Dent did, he did get pushed to the mental breaking point by the Joker/Two-Face and the physical breaking point by Bane. And he did not fall into the darkness, he rose up and become a hero. I think that was, among other things, the point of TDKR.

[BatmanBeyond]

Originally Posted by hafizbat

I believe the whole point of the trilogy, or at least TDKR, was to show that he would not. He DID go thru what Harvey Dent did, he did get pushed to the mental breaking point by the Joker/Two-Face and the physical breaking point by Bane. And he did not fall into the darkness, he rose up and become a hero. I think that was, among other things, the point of TDKR.

Nicely put.

[mackblack01]

Originally Posted by kvz5

I think the rankings are a bit messed up but still a good read:

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/wo...christian-bale

Harsh Times is far. He did an hell of a job in this movie.

[kvz5]

Nolan likes it!

[Baneis8feettall]

Batman Begins feels like yesterday.. I'm gonna miss these series a lot. I wish i had a taste for new school action movies.

[kvz5]

Originally Posted by herolee10

So after having seen TDKR to its fullest, I'm just curious:

I've read some claiming that if Bruce had undergone the same trauma that Harvey had gone, physical and emotional, and had been pushed by the Joker to that breaking point that he would have fallen into darkness as well. Would you guys say that's true or false after seeing what Bruce underwent in TDKR?

Yeah I agree with the others and say that it's false. What Bruce went through in TDKR is at around the same vein as what Harvey went through as well (even harder) and he still rose to the occasion. He's been attacked from all angles - physical, emotional, financial, etc. and yet he still managed to grow from all of it instead of letting all of that drag him down.

[DoomsdayApex]

Originally Posted by kvz5

Yeah I agree with the others and say that it's false. What Bruce went through in TDKR is at around the same vein as what Harvey went through as well (even harder) and he still rose to the occasion. He's been attacked from all angles - physical, emotional, financial, etc. and yet he still managed to grow from all of it instead of letting all of that drag him down.

Incidentally, I don't buy the talk involving Batman possibly becoming Bane had Bruce suffered a 'similar' origin. The road for Bruce would've been almost identical to the one he traveled to become Batman.

[herolee10]

BEGINNING OF B.B: Bruce Wayne is given the means that he'll need in order to forge the pillars of his persona known as Batman by Ra's Al Ghul.


CLIMAX OF B.B.: Bruce fights Ra's to the death on board a train.




BEGINNING OF T.D.K.R.: Bruce spends a intimate night with Talia at Wayne Manor.


CLIMAX OF T.D.K.R.: Bruce ends up shooting bullets at Talia from "The Bat" which ends with her going off course and falling to her death.





*BRUCE'S REACTION TO ALL OF THIS*

[kvz5]

To be fair, both the Al Ghuls volunteered their uh "services" to Bruce. It's not like Bruce asked them for it.

[BlackFox]

Originally Posted by kvz5

I think the rankings are a bit messed up but still a good read:

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/wo...christian-bale

Oh dear god Shaft, I remember seeing that travesty.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by kvz5

To be fair, both the Al Ghuls volunteered their uh "services" to Bruce. It's not like Bruce asked them for it.

haha True, but Bruce could have always:

[theLegend]

Originally Posted by BlackFox

Oh dear god Shaft, I remember seeing that travesty.

I love that movie. The puerto rican villain "Jewelz" ... haha, awesome. And Bale's Walter White is pretty damn intimidating in that movie.

[BlackFox]

Originally Posted by theLegend

I love that movie. The puerto rican villain "Jewelz" ... haha, awesome. And Bale's Walter White is pretty damn intimidating in that movie.

Fair enough, every film has at least one fan I guess, it just did not work for me at all.

[MAKAVELI25]

Obviously the Batman of the comics is a master of all trades and all that. But Nolan's Wayne is shown to be an ordinary guy who happens to be a pretty good Ninja. Do you like or dislike the ordinary guy factor?

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I don't care one way or the other due to the ninja factor. He seemed like a genuis in TDK when he was doing that ballistics testing. In the interest of avoiding repetitiveness, I'd like to see that side of Bruce emphasized in the reboot. Perhaps its a good thing Nolan didn't go too deep into that aspect of Batman.

[TheNolan]

Bruce Wayne, in Nolan's films, isn't an ordinary guy. He's a great ninja. He builds the suit and some of his equipment himself in BB. He obviously knows how to perform detective work- appearing at the Joker crime scene in TDK, and did ballistics testing.

In TDKR, he's analyzing criminal profiles and etc. He's basically a one man police unit.

[Troy_Parker]

Well to be fair, he doesn't build the suit/s. He just modifies them.