Webbing formula - Part 1

[MarvelFan]

I remember this scene in the movie, where Peter/Spidey goes into the sewers to encounter the lizard. And he makes a "silk trap" out of his webbing. He shoots web lines down the sewer tunnels and connects and pulls them together like rubber band strands. Then the web lines down all the tunnels started vibrating because the smaller lizards were crawling down all of them. But they were all going towards one of the tunnels where Connors/the lizard was. He crawls down that tunnel to find the lizard. The point is, it shows that the webbing gives of the strength of duct tape, but the elasticity of rubber bands. It pulled together like rubber bands, it gave of the vibration like rubber bands.

[MarvelFan]

Type in "the amazing spiderman silk trap". It should be the third one from the top.

[White_widow]

I've been working on this for a few weeks now. I've created a new forum. This one contains all of the research that you guys can use.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=389245

It goes over web formula, web shooter, the spinneret, different formulations, and it's only interrupted a few times, so it's as up-to-date as possible. This is the height of the research. I've created a web shooter, but it doesn't handle viscosity very well, and it doesn't contain a spinneret. If you look at the website that iron spider created, you'll see all the parts that I've accumulated in making a web shooter. This is my official resignation as leader of the "web shooter shop class "and "webbing formula" pages. You will not see me any more for at least two years. I leave officially August 8th, so I'm willing to answer questions in my PM's up til the 5th.

Finally, I'm leaving Spidey 44, Iron Spider, Nolder, Wadaltmon, and JMA610 in charge of these forums. They are all remarkably bright and studious in their respective fields. Make sure to give them respect, as they know what they're talking about, and have even put me in my place a couple times.

Have a good one, and Excelsior!

P.s. I'm thinking about selling all of my web shooter equipment including the notebook with my designs in one deal. If anyone is interested send me a PM with what you consider is a reasonable price.

Have a good one everybody! ^^

[Black-Cat]

When you guys are done with these web shooters i was wondering if I could buy a pair from you PLEASE!!! I don't know how to build/make any of this sooo when your done please let me buy a pair for a reasonable price

Thank You

[CharlesConceptz]

Hi im new here and im a big fan of white widows work.

[CharlesConceptz]

I free run and have done martial arts for 3 years. Im a huge fan of spiderman too

[MarvelFan]

Come on everyone, we can't stop now because ww is gone! Come on let's post some stuff! There are no bad ideas, just potential good ideas!

[pllagunos]

why he is gone

[cbass2272]

Okay I had an idea. Instead of using a spinneret, we could potentially use 3 "micro shooters" (if you will), on a motorized circular track, with the middle once as an anchor point shooting the PVA, one of the outer ones shooting Acetone, and the other shooting water. The outer two would spin around the inner anchor point, and by adjusting the speed at which the outer ones spin, we could essentially adjust the strength of the webs.

[cbass2272]

It could be modified in such a way that we could use coils of wire, potentially to heat up the compound if needed.

[spidey44]

Why would you shoot acetone, PVA, and water seperately?

[cbass2272]

Because then you can solidify and elasticize the PVA in different orders.
But then I came across something else. PVA in the presence of Ca ions becomes sticky enough to stick onto stainless steel. So, by making a Calcium Acetate solution, and mixing it with the web fluid, PVA with water, it should be sticky, solid, and yet flexible enough. With 1400 MPa.

[spidey44]

What's the purpose of the acetone?

[MarvelFan]

To keep it a liquid until it leaves the nozzle.

[spidey44]

Acetone isn't a solvent for Polyvinyl Alcohol.

[MarvelFan]

O yeah, I forgot pva dissolves in water. Then in that case, I don't know why he is adding acetone.

[The Slang]

I'm not very informed when it comes to chemistry and engineering, but I'd suggest you begin by just trying to replicate one of the functions of the webshooter.

A while ago I was wondering if it'd be possible to make a paintball gun that shoots adhesive capsules attached to a cable, similar to a harpoon or grapple gun. Rather than actually forming a rope from fluid, this could be an easier way to replicate the function of a webline. Maybe you could even create some kind of barrel that coats the cable in something as it's being fired.
Then separate from this, work on other devices that can fire more complicated short range projectiles like expandable nets, liquid cement and shrink wrap sheets. I've already seen some pretty effective net guns.

Once you achieve the desired functions individually in separate (most likely large) machines, then you can worry about making them smaller and eventually combining them into a single device.

[spidey44]

We're making web fluid not a grappling gun.

[MarvelFan]

I figured out a way to make a wrist mounted grappling hook, but I'm going to do that after this goes well, I'm going to worry more on a wrist mounted polymer extrusion device for now, then, I'm making a grappling hook.

[cbass2272]

Because I was under the impression that PVA solidifies in acetone.

[cbass2272]

Or what about this?

I was thinking... You could take PVA fibers, or as a liquid, and prepare either in the shooters, or off-site, a solution of calcium acetate in water, and mix that with the PVA, the PVA would become sticky enough to stick to stainless steel walls, and also elastic as rubber bands, while still in the solid state.

[pllagunos]

i have the formula here http://forums.superherohype.com/show...1#post24082251

[Peter Parkerish]

Where can I buy the materials that Ww mentioned fOr his formula

[pllagunos]

what formula tell me exactly

[Peter Parkerish]

- Polyisoprene + polyterpene resin+ PVA+ aqueous acetone + resorcinol–formaldehyde latex = my current web formula

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