The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Batman > The Dark Knight Rises

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-08-2012, 12:00 PM   #1
BatZiLLa54
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 95
Default Do you believe Batman Quit?

Afternoon guys, so I have this one friend who absolutely hates this movie because to him batman should never quit.

Am I wrong to believe he doesn't? Sure he doesn't suit up at the end up but he put everything in place for Batman to return (signal restored, coordinates to the cave). And while yes it is obvious that Blake is now set up to become Batman, I don't get why its hard to believe that Bruce along with Selina would take on the Batman Beyond mentor role from a distance...

BatZiLLa54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:02 PM   #2
Bruce_Begins
Taking a break.
 
Bruce_Begins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,505
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman wants you to keep guessing..

__________________

*\S/T*

I'll be back !
Bruce_Begins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:04 PM   #3
KalMart
239-Bean Irish Chili
 
KalMart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,425
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

That was basically the motivating element to having Blake...to try to make it 'okay' that Wayne is moving on and trying to salvage some peace in his life, but that he has established a continuing legacy of duty to the city. Just the idea of Batman being mortal and not being able to do this forever was, I think, a bold thing to at least try to tackle by these storytellers...and do it a bit differently than the obligatory broken old man Wayne.

Tell your friend that this has basically been an 'elseworlds' alternative take on Batman from the very beginning and not meant to be definitive.

__________________
KalMart's Vids on YouTube
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Plus, is the infatuation that teenage girls have with pseudo-vampires any less sad than your infatuation with men in spandex and Heath Ledger? Its probably more justifiable for them. :)
KalMart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:07 PM   #4
Mob1423
LE-HOO...SEH-HER!
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 357
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman didn't quit. He died with the bomb

Bruce Wayne moved on to live his own life

Mob1423 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:07 PM   #5
Anno_Domini
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,997
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Bruce Wayne quit.

Batman didn't. As seen in the very last image.

Anno_Domini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:17 PM   #6
FlawlessVictory
Side-Kick
 
FlawlessVictory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,246
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BatZiLLa54 View Post
Afternoon guys, so I have this one friend who absolutely hates this movie because to him batman should never quit.

Am I wrong to believe he doesn't? Sure he doesn't suit up at the end up but he put everything in place for Batman to return (signal restored, coordinates to the cave). And while yes it is obvious that Blake is now set up to become Batman, I don't get why its hard to believe that Bruce along with Selina would take on the Batman Beyond mentor role from a distance...
Does your friend realize the physical toll it takes to be Batman? Did he not see the condition Bruce's body was in? Did he see the beatings he was taking? He is not superhuman. He cannot continue this forever. He HAS to stop at some point. He finally realized his limits. So he went out one last time and used up what was left in him physically.

And after giving it all, he knows he has Blake as insurance to continue to protect the city, if Batman's "death" wasn't enough of an inspiration and symbol for the city to completely rise up and persevere after all the madness.

And yes, no reason to believe that Bruce couldn't mentor Blake and share with him his extensive knowledge.

FlawlessVictory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:17 PM   #7
KalMart
239-Bean Irish Chili
 
KalMart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,425
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Well, Batman really didn't die...so again, he's perpetuating a lie with the people of Gotham by providing them with a martyr, instead of truthfully telling them that he survived, but that he's stepping aside for the new hero to come in. But we can let that slide.

__________________
KalMart's Vids on YouTube
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Plus, is the infatuation that teenage girls have with pseudo-vampires any less sad than your infatuation with men in spandex and Heath Ledger? Its probably more justifiable for them. :)
KalMart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:19 PM   #8
DorneyDave
Side-Kick
 
DorneyDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,375
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

This isn't the comics, Bruce Wayne as Batman doesn't go on forever and ever. The shot with Blake at the end and the "Robin" nod was Nolan's way of showing that Gotham wouldn't be without a protector if needed.

For goodness sake, let Bruce have some peace in his life.

DorneyDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #9
Mob1423
LE-HOO...SEH-HER!
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 357
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman is a mystery best left never to be solved, let's just leave it at that. Even though a lot of us say we know who Batman is, we don't. If you try to think like him, you could get some scary results. Now we know how it feels to be one of the superstitious criminals:

"How did he do that? Is Batman immortal? Did he literally fly out of The Bat and saved himself?"

Like those criminals, it's best that we just not know how it happened for once. Batman is a mystery

Mob1423 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 12:37 PM   #10
Valmont103
Newbie First Class
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 23
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman quit? Did your friend happen to see that Bane injured his freakin' back. Put him in an underground jail no one escapes from. Put a video feed so he could watch how he tore his precious city apart. Did Batman quit? No, he got his body back in shape, escaped the jail, and saved his city. So why begrudge him a happy ending with a beautiful woman? I say he earned his new life.

Valmont103 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:01 PM   #11
Macphisto
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 642
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

In other words: Yeah, he quit.

__________________
Closer than ever to everybody's wife
Macphisto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:12 PM   #12
Bruce_Begins
Taking a break.
 
Bruce_Begins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,505
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman is dead in the eyes of ordinary citizens of Gotham, but as we know that he (Bruce Wayne) is still out there ...somewhere...and Fox will eventually get back control of Wayne Enterprises when he proves that stock transactions done when bane attacked the Stock exchange were all fraudulent.


Maybe..in future when there is some serious threat to Gotham.. Batman will return again...

Director leaves the future of batman open to interpretation and imagination.

__________________

*\S/T*

I'll be back !
Bruce_Begins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:16 PM   #13
KalMart
239-Bean Irish Chili
 
KalMart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,425
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macphisto View Post
In other words: Yeah, he quit.
Retired.

__________________
KalMart's Vids on YouTube
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Plus, is the infatuation that teenage girls have with pseudo-vampires any less sad than your infatuation with men in spandex and Heath Ledger? Its probably more justifiable for them. :)
KalMart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:27 PM   #14
Morning Root
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 82
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

I'd like to believe Bruce moved on with his life, yes. But then comes the question as to how Blake is going to learn all the moves and pay for everything and blah blah blah. So it's likely he'd stay on as a mentor for a bit as someone previously mentioned.

Morning Root is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #15
Mob1423
LE-HOO...SEH-HER!
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 357
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

They want you to think Batman is dead...and then you get "The Dark Knight Returns" with a different set up

Mob1423 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:02 PM   #16
Macphisto
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 642
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KalMart View Post
Retired.
Twice in fact.

__________________
Closer than ever to everybody's wife
Macphisto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:07 PM   #17
KalMart
239-Bean Irish Chili
 
KalMart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,425
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Favre.

If anyone actually 'quit'...it was Alfred.

__________________
KalMart's Vids on YouTube
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Plus, is the infatuation that teenage girls have with pseudo-vampires any less sad than your infatuation with men in spandex and Heath Ledger? Its probably more justifiable for them. :)
KalMart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:15 PM   #18
kthevs
Banned User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 470
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Let's see: Stay in Gotham and have your life get worse and worse.... OR, run off to a beautiful foreign country with a beautiful girl (perhaps the only girl in the world who can understand how screwed up you are, because she's equally as screwed up)? Hmm. Not a hard choice.

kthevs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:22 PM   #19
DACrowe
Side-Kick
 
DACrowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 26,051
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BatZiLLa54 View Post
Afternoon guys, so I have this one friend who absolutely hates this movie because to him batman should never quit.

Am I wrong to believe he doesn't? Sure he doesn't suit up at the end up but he put everything in place for Batman to return (signal restored, coordinates to the cave). And while yes it is obvious that Blake is now set up to become Batman, I don't get why its hard to believe that Bruce along with Selina would take on the Batman Beyond mentor role from a distance...
Batman didn't quit. He retired. When setting this in a loosely real world environment, you have to factor in people age and bodies deteriorate. Especially ones that are pushed to the brink like Bruce's is. He physically couldn't really do it anymore and mentally has finally been able to put the past of his parents--and now Rachel--away and live life for the first time.

Some like to see Batman being Batman until he is dead or old and gray, but this is a perfectly fine interpretation. And no, I do not think Bruce or Selina will return to Gotham. They put that behind them and started fresh. The point is Bruce's story is done but the legend lives on. Blake will carry on the Dark Knight's legacy and Bruce will finally carry on in living. It is not Frank Miller or even Paul Dini, but I like it.

__________________
"Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country."

--John Adams
DACrowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:30 PM   #20
Revenant
Ted Kord
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Saint Paul, Mn
Posts: 208
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macphisto View Post
In other words: Yeah, he quit.
In other words, yeah you are clueless.

Revenant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:32 PM   #21
BlackFox
Red 5 standing by
 
BlackFox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Yoda's mud hut
Posts: 4,365
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman is more than just a man, an ideal, a legend.

Batman can never quit, retire or die.

Batman is immortal.

BlackFox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 02:34 PM   #22
marcvader
Lurker #1
SHH! Moderator
 
marcvader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The MIA
Posts: 10,581
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

For phucks sake, this is Nolan's friggin take on Batman not the comicbook version.

__________________
* * *CAPTAIN AMERICA* * *
******THE WINTER SOLDIER******
__________________#1 CBM of 2014____________________
Twitter- @mrpink13
GO PHINS
HAIL HYDRA!
marcvader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 03:39 PM   #23
BatZiLLa54
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 95
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DACrowe View Post
Batman didn't quit. He retired. When setting this in a loosely real world environment, you have to factor in people age and bodies deteriorate. Especially ones that are pushed to the brink like Bruce's is. He physically couldn't really do it anymore and mentally has finally been able to put the past of his parents--and now Rachel--away and live life for the first time.

Some like to see Batman being Batman until he is dead or old and gray, but this is a perfectly fine interpretation. And no, I do not think Bruce or Selina will return to Gotham. They put that behind them and started fresh. The point is Bruce's story is done but the legend lives on. Blake will carry on the Dark Knight's legacy and Bruce will finally carry on in living. It is not Frank Miller or even Paul Dini, but I like it.
Couldn't agree more.

BatZiLLa54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 03:42 PM   #24
The Guard
Side-Kick
 
The Guard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 26,106
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

Batman quit. Twice. I guess you could say he retired, but he also quit.

If he couldn't do it anymore, then how did he do it?

He quit. But not before he lied to Gotham. Again.

__________________
Writer and Lyricist of GOTHAM'S KNIGHT: THE BATMAN MUSICAL

And if I'm right
The future's looking bright
A symbol in the skies at night
The Guard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 04:12 PM   #25
zmystico
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 423
Default Re: Do you believe Batman Quit?

In this universe, Batman fulfilled his purpose, he was never intended to rid Gotham of all crime and pursue a one-man war on criminals. Batman was created to provide the citizens of Gotham with an inspiration, a symbol, a legend...something to motivate them to fight for their city again. He's done that, he's no longer needed. To a lesser degree I felt he was created as an outlet for Bruce's pain and anger...Bruce finally was able to come to terms with his pain and anger...again, Batman is no longer needed.

I don't like nor agree with the opinion that Batman wanted Blake to take over as Batman or to even follow in his footsteps exactly...I believe he left him the Batcave because he figured out who he was, and that if Gordon/Gotham ever needed help, Blake could use the RESOURCES of the Batcave, but not be Batman or Robin.

__________________
Wayne Enterprises buys and sells companies like Stark Industries
zmystico is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:15 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.