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Old 09-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #126
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So I guess they took his telepathic connection to birds and just made it more general, makes sense.

Can't wait to see how they handle him.

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Oh I hope they don't keep the drug dealer thing.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:16 PM   #128
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Doubt they will, that was a really awful retcon anyway. I think he was a pimp too, lol

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:22 PM   #129
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Need to know more about the telepathic thing too. Nit sure how I feel about that.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:24 PM   #130
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He's always had that link with his bird where he could see through its eyes.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:50 PM   #131
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Maybe Mackie wasn't speaking specifically about how his character will be presented in the movie, but rather just giving a general description of the character based on what he knows of the comics. So he may not be a drug dealer or pimp or bird telepath or whatever in the movie. Hopefully.

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Which would be the lesser of two evils, the bird telepath or the pimp?

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I hope he does keep the telepathic link. That's what will set him apart from just being a SHIELD agent. I want him to have Redwing (and for Redwing to poop on someone like in Superhero Squad). I also hope he has something resembling his classic red and white costume with wings.

There's something cool about seeing Cap's red, white and blue colours next to Falcon's red and white. I don't want to be seeing Falcon in some other colour like black. It just won't have the same iconic colour combination next to Cap.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #134
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He's always had that link with his bird where he could see through its eyes.
I know that. Wondering about the extent if it though. How will the telepathy come about in the MCU? It seems a bit much if he's a telepath across the board and quite powerful at face value if you ask me.

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:04 PM   #135
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Which would be the lesser of two evils, the bird telepath or the pimp?
Many would likely consider bird telepathy to be a lame power, but the pimp thing could be more problematic.

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:45 PM   #136
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I know that. Wondering about the extent if it though. How will the telepathy come about in the MCU? It seems a bit much if he's a telepath across the board and quite powerful at face value if you ask me.
Honestly I'd rather him have across the board telepathy than just the bird telepathy. Maybe have it not be all that powerful or something, but I'm sure it could be presented in a way that's not too overpowered

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I'm thinking it would just be presented a bit like Sheena who had a telepathic link with jungle animals, although in the Gena Lee Nolin series she seemed to be able to shapeshift into them. I don't think they need to make a big deal out of it with Redwing, but just that there is a link and Redwing can carry out his bidding.

The question is whether they'll get an actual trained bird or will it be CGI or animatronic? Some birds, even trained, can be unpredicatable. I do think they need a real one though for some shots.

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Old 09-14-2012, 09:05 PM   #138
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I don't think he'll have his pet falcon

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I would have preferred drones instead of birds. An ai one called Redwing maybe and no telepathy.

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Old 09-14-2012, 11:17 PM   #140
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Maybe Mackie wasn't speaking specifically about how his character will be presented in the movie, but rather just giving a general description of the character based on what he knows of the comics. So he may not be a drug dealer or pimp or bird telepath or whatever in the movie. Hopefully.
I'm pretty sure this is the case. I doubt Mackie has seen a script yet; sounds like he's just repeating what he's read about the comic book character. But I *do* hope they make Falcon a role that Mackie can be proud of.

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I don't think he'll have his pet falcon
You mean the thing he was actually named for....???
That's like having Spider-Man without the ability to spin webs or crawl on ceilings.

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Falcon without Redwing would just look like something is missing. That's something so distinctive about him. It's like Cap without his shield or Thor without his hammer or Hawkeye without his bow and arrow. Falcon will be less memorable and iconic without Redwing and just a random guy who can fly (especially if they ditch his wings and anything else that is part of his classic costume).

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Old 09-15-2012, 08:40 AM   #142
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You mean the thing he was actually named for....???
That's like having Spider-Man without the ability to spin webs or crawl on ceilings.
No, it's like having Spider-Man without his pet spider.

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No, it's like having Spider-Man without his pet spider.
Don't be disingenuous. Spider-Man was obviously not named for a pet spider; Falcon *was* named for his falcon. Who is not a "pet."

Superheroes are almost invariably named for their iconic power. Falcon's original, iconic power was his telepathic connection to Redwing. Taking that away is taking away the core of the character.

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Old 09-15-2012, 10:09 AM   #144
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First of all, Falcon is not an iconic character, he does not have an iconic power. Some of y'all throw around the word iconic all willy-nilly.

Second of all, he can have a telepathic connection to birds without having a pet falcon that follows him around. And I think the bird wings cover him being named Falcon.

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I'd prefer he be a SHIELD gadgeteer, myself. Give him a flight harness, and if you want to reference Redwing, surveillance drones.

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Old 09-15-2012, 11:55 AM   #146
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After reading that little description he gave from that interview and all of the discussion here, I'm starting to really not like the idea of Falcon in this movie. It looks like no matter what they do, half of the fans will be disappointed. It's either do something that will make him look stupid in a film or ruin the "core" or the character.

I'm really starting to hope that what someone else said is true, no matter how absurd it is, that they're all lying about the character and he's actually Black Panther.

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Old 09-15-2012, 12:00 PM   #147
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The people who are whining about potential changes now will love those very same changes two years from now. It's an endless cycle on SHH

The "core" of the character is that's he's Cap's bestie and he flies with big wings attached to his arms. Doubt either of those will change. I'm game with the filmmakers doing just about anything with the character, to be honest

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Old 09-15-2012, 01:09 PM   #148
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Glad to see I was right about them having to boost the Falcon's power set. Given how faithful Marvel has been with Cap, they should feel completely free to re-imagine the Falcon character. Im hoping the "gentically altered" thing means his flying with bird wings will actually make sense (well, sci fi sense anyway) Great news.



Off-topic: And if the next time we see Widow shes been augmented (Infinity Formula, implants etc) even better. Same with Hawkeye.


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I know I shouldn't, but I kind of define Sam as Steve's best friend and his steadfast ally, rather than whatever gadgets or powers he has. He could be a standard SHIELD Agent and I'd still only care about how his relationship with Steve is portrayed.

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I know I shouldn't, but I kind of define Sam as Steve's best friend and his steadfast ally, rather than whatever gadgets or powers he has. He could be a standard SHIELD Agent and I'd still only care about how his relationship with Steve is portrayed.
Maybe Sam should be a dog. He'd still be Steve's best friend and ally and would have the type of relationship you care about. Redwing could be his chewy toy.

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