The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 - Page 2

The Joker · 08-22-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Incredible Hans

This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

Seconded.

Homer J. Fong · 08-22-2012, 05:23 PM

Agreed, but some people already well know that I agree.

Pfeiffer-Pfan · 08-22-2012, 05:41 PM

I flip back and forth between this and Batman 1989 so much... I can never decide which is better. (But I think Returns edges out)

It's almost like everything he got right in B89 he got wrong in BR and vice versa.

I would have loved to have seen Michelle's Catwoman in Anton Furst's Gotham.

CConn · 08-22-2012, 05:51 PM

My #1 biggest complaint about BR will forever be that they didn't return to Furst's Gotham.

Pfeiffer-Pfan · 08-22-2012, 05:54 PM

Yep... thats the biggest shame.

I'm surprised Burton didn't at least work with Furst to see if he could change or improve his designs (to keep them both creatively interested).

CConn · 08-22-2012, 05:57 PM

Who knows what Furst's mental state was so few months before his death.

I could be wrong, but I remember hearing somewhere that all of the B89 sets were still standing in the London studios at the time of BR's development. But for tax reasons or something, they decided to shoot in LA instead, and all of the sets were destroyed.

Homer J. Fong · 08-22-2012, 06:10 PM

^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world.

Pfeiffer-Pfan · 08-22-2012, 06:16 PM

Really? It feels like a different world to me...

The only thing they kept the same was the Batmobile.

CConn · 08-22-2012, 06:22 PM

And I'm pretty sure Burton said he wanted it to feel like a different world as well.

Pfeiffer-Pfan · 08-22-2012, 06:26 PM

No I know... and I appreciate that.

He wanted to remain creatively energized. I do enjoy the somewhat claustrophobic atmosphere.

CConn · 08-22-2012, 06:27 PM

Right after making a movie that looks and sounds exactly like Batman Returns.

AnneFan · 08-22-2012, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Incredible Hans

This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

Absolutely. B89 is gold, but this one is just better to me.

As for not using the Furst Gotham again, I loved how B89 looked. But I also like what they did for BR and I'm not as bothered about the change. Getting two different interpretations was cool IMO, and I like both for different reasons.

The Joker · 08-22-2012, 08:02 PM

My main problem with BR's Gotham is how small it seemed. Most of the exterior Gotham scenes happen in Gotham Plaza.

But small as it seemed it was a beautiful Gotham City especially with the snow.

returntovoid · 08-23-2012, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer J. Fong

^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world.

Exactly. Also, the cinematographer for Terry Gilliam's Brazil, Roger Pratt, worked on B89 but even with Stefan Czapsky as Pratt's replacement for BR, it's still consistent because Tim Burton is behind the camera.

Pfeiffer-Pfan · 08-23-2012, 06:34 AM

I still think the cinematography in Batman Returns is amazing... doesn't show it's age at all.

AnneFan · 08-23-2012, 08:36 AM

Batman Returns looks gorgeous.

GothamAlleys · 08-23-2012, 09:00 AM

the cinematography in BR is gorgeous indeed

The Joker · 08-23-2012, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothamAlleys

the cinematography in BR is gorgeous indeed

Beautiful

Here's some of my favorites:

Two-Face · 08-23-2012, 11:35 AM

BR looks great on bluray.

Kane52630 · 08-23-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two-Face

BR looks great on bluray.

Yeah it's a great transfer, which is odd. The blu ray transfers for 66, 89, Returns, Forever, and B&R was better than Nolan's Batman blu ray releases (minus the IMAX shots in TDK).

CConn · 08-23-2012, 11:42 AM

It looks great on Blu-Ray and like **** on DVD.

Hellion · 08-23-2012, 11:45 AM

This is still my favorite Burton movie, my only gripe with Gotham was everything seemed to take place in the same street-area, The city hall-Shreck's Store, etc...everything just happened to be within walking distance...

...the shots @ Penguin's hideout in the end interior and exterior I always thought looked amazing...I feel they did a great job with the design elements of the Zoo...

Kane52630 · 08-23-2012, 11:49 AM

Two-Face · 08-23-2012, 11:59 AM

Those are great.

Pfeiffer-Pfan · 08-23-2012, 03:26 PM

I always loved this...

08-22-2012, 05:23 PM	#27
Homer J. Fong Not a golem Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Accusing Parlor Posts: 2,130	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Agreed, but some people already well know that I agree. __________________ Do not accept checks from: Chief Wiggum - Reverend Lovejoy - Homer J. Simpson - Homer S. Simpson - H.J. Simpson - Homor Simpson - Homer J. Fong BATMAN FOREVER SCENE BY SCENE

08-22-2012, 05:41 PM	#28
Pfeiffer-Pfan Flawless! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 7,749	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 I flip back and forth between this and Batman 1989 so much... I can never decide which is better. (But I think Returns edges out) It's almost like everything he got right in B89 he got wrong in BR and vice versa. I would have loved to have seen Michelle's Catwoman in Anton Furst's Gotham. __________________ Michelle Pfeiffer: Living Legend... you can look, but don't touch! VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: I'll miss you dad! xx

08-22-2012, 05:51 PM	#29
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,433	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 My #1 biggest complaint about BR will forever be that they didn't return to Furst's Gotham. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

08-22-2012, 05:54 PM	#30
Pfeiffer-Pfan Flawless! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 7,749	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Yep... thats the biggest shame. I'm surprised Burton didn't at least work with Furst to see if he could change or improve his designs (to keep them both creatively interested). __________________ Michelle Pfeiffer: Living Legend... you can look, but don't touch! VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: I'll miss you dad! xx

08-22-2012, 05:57 PM	#31
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,433	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Who knows what Furst's mental state was so few months before his death. I could be wrong, but I remember hearing somewhere that all of the B89 sets were still standing in the London studios at the time of BR's development. But for tax reasons or something, they decided to shoot in LA instead, and all of the sets were destroyed. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

08-22-2012, 06:10 PM	#32
Homer J. Fong Not a golem Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Accusing Parlor Posts: 2,130	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 ^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world. __________________ Do not accept checks from: Chief Wiggum - Reverend Lovejoy - Homer J. Simpson - Homer S. Simpson - H.J. Simpson - Homor Simpson - Homer J. Fong BATMAN FOREVER SCENE BY SCENE

08-22-2012, 06:16 PM	#33
Pfeiffer-Pfan Flawless! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 7,749	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Really? It feels like a different world to me... The only thing they kept the same was the Batmobile. __________________ Michelle Pfeiffer: Living Legend... you can look, but don't touch! VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: I'll miss you dad! xx

08-22-2012, 06:22 PM	#34
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,433	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 And I'm pretty sure Burton said he wanted it to feel like a different world as well. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

08-22-2012, 06:26 PM	#35
Pfeiffer-Pfan Flawless! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 7,749	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 No I know... and I appreciate that. He wanted to remain creatively energized. I do enjoy the somewhat claustrophobic atmosphere. __________________ Michelle Pfeiffer: Living Legend... you can look, but don't touch! VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: I'll miss you dad! xx

08-22-2012, 06:27 PM	#36
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,433	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Right after making a movie that looks and sounds exactly like Batman Returns. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

08-22-2012, 08:02 PM	#38
The Joker Clown Prince of Crime Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Jollity Farm Posts: 33,719	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 My main problem with BR's Gotham is how small it seemed. Most of the exterior Gotham scenes happen in Gotham Plaza. But small as it seemed it was a beautiful Gotham City especially with the snow. __________________ "Sometimes I remember it one way. Sometimes another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!" - The Joker

08-23-2012, 06:34 AM	#40
Pfeiffer-Pfan Flawless! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 7,749	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 I still think the cinematography in Batman Returns is amazing... doesn't show it's age at all. __________________ Michelle Pfeiffer: Living Legend... you can look, but don't touch! VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: I'll miss you dad! xx

08-23-2012, 08:36 AM	#41
AnneFan Hathaway #1 Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 9,162	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Batman Returns looks gorgeous. __________________ I dreamed a dream and "it came true." - Anne Hathaway, actress in a supporting role winner 2013 Oscars.

08-23-2012, 09:00 AM	#42
GothamAlleys Side-Kick Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,627	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 the cinematography in BR is gorgeous indeed __________________ KNOW YOUR BATMAN FACTS - GOTHAM ALLEYS BLOG www.JamesCameronOnline.com

08-23-2012, 11:35 AM	#44
Two-Face Harvey Dent Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arkham City Posts: 45,201	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 BR looks great on bluray. __________________ Sir Alex Ferguson - A true United Legend. Thank you. TWO-FACE:[as Harvey Dent]The only way to get by in this place is to get ourselves some respect...[as Two-Face:]...Fear! That's how we get respect! Show them ... how we do things!" VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

08-23-2012, 11:42 AM	#46
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,433	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 It looks great on Blu-Ray and like **** on DVD. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

08-23-2012, 11:45 AM	#47
Hellion He's Not Serious Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Otogakure Posts: 4,335	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 This is still my favorite Burton movie, my only gripe with Gotham was everything seemed to take place in the same street-area, The city hall-Shreck's Store, etc...everything just happened to be within walking distance... ...the shots @ Penguin's hideout in the end interior and exterior I always thought looked amazing...I feel they did a great job with the design elements of the Zoo... __________________ Hellion's Quote of Wisdom for 5/17/2013: *"Silly Rabbi, tricks are for kids."* -Sophia Petrillo

08-23-2012, 11:49 AM	#48
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08-23-2012, 11:59 AM	#49
Two-Face Harvey Dent Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arkham City Posts: 45,201	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 Those are great. __________________ Sir Alex Ferguson - A true United Legend. Thank you. TWO-FACE:[as Harvey Dent]The only way to get by in this place is to get ourselves some respect...[as Two-Face:]...Fear! That's how we get respect! Show them ... how we do things!" VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

08-23-2012, 03:26 PM	#50
Pfeiffer-Pfan Flawless! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 7,749	Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2 I always loved this... __________________ Michelle Pfeiffer: Living Legend... you can look, but don't touch! VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: I'll miss you dad! xx

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