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Batman Begins (2005) 64 18.55%
The Dark Knight (2008) 144 41.74%
The Dark Knight Rises (2012) 137 39.71%
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:04 PM   #251
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I feel the complete opposite in comparing the climaxes in TDKR with ROTJ. Jedi completely raised the action, the emotions and it felt like a satisfying climax that tied up all loose ends. The action was amazing in Jedi taking place in 3 completely different settings. TDKR seemed like you could intercut it with TDK and you'd think it was the same movie. (Other than the daylight) Jedi's emotional climax completely OWNS TDKR's emotional climax on every level. TDKR ended like a cliffhanger not a rousing finale. So while I agree that they are both flawed in terms of story, in the climax dept. Jedi owns.
This is not a surprise. And you think TDKR ended like a cliffhanger? Maybe you should see it again... you might still be in Inception.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:23 PM   #252
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KILLING JOKER,so we are fanboys who can't admit that TDKR sucked, but you insisting that TDK is superior and it can't be matched is something else entirely? Interesting logic...
People loved it, people hated it. That's reality. The poll is also reality.

It appears that the people who've voted so far seem to love it. Trash it much as you want to, but that ain't gonna made the movie bad.
You being SO defensive and making jabs at me only makes my point that much more true. I've never slammed anyone in particular. I'm just pointing out a fact that some fanboys whine about someone not liking the film as much as them and will worship anything blindly because they can't accept that something may have failed them.

Everyone in here seems to feel I'm peeing in their Wheaties just because I said I was "let down." I never "trashed" the movie. I said I was let down and yet I get all these angry responses about how wrong I am.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:24 PM   #253
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Return of the Jedi's climax was good but i allways felt that the Emperor's death was kind of silly, he's supposed to be that all powerful foe and he's simply grabed and thrown by his aprentice

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:27 PM   #254
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This is not a surprise. And you think TDKR ended like a cliffhanger? Maybe you should see it again... you might still be in Inception.
John Blake finding the cave and then cutting to credits is a cliffhanger. Sorry, it just is.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:52 PM   #255
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John Blake finding the cave and then cutting to credits is a cliffhanger. Sorry, it just is.
it is a cliff hanger ending...some people believe there is gonna be a 4th film...sadly...only us hype members and fanboys know the truth

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Old 08-16-2012, 04:04 PM   #256
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I still have to go with BB. TDK is the best film of the bunch, and TDKR finishes an amazing ride, but BB continues to enthrall me from opening logo to credits, every time. It's a close race, but I have to vote with my heart.
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Right now Rises. One of the best portraits of Batman in any medium.

BB is amazing until the final act . TDK is like a Thunder. An high energy movie. Rises is as ambitious as it gets.

In the end , a tremendous trilogy , well balanced and probably my favorite of all time (this comes from a guy who grew up watching star wars...so it means a lot).

I kinda fell bad for the guy who has the task to reboot Batman.

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it is a cliff hanger ending...some people believe there is gonna be a 4th film...sadly...only us hype members and fanboys know the truth
I dont think you would have to be a fanboy to understand a movie and its thematic implications. If one does not understand the role of Blake in the end , probably most of the ideas that the story builds upon probably flew over his head.


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Old 08-16-2012, 04:13 PM   #259
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Blake rising into the cave is a really ingenious hybrid of cliffhanger and definite end.

Honestly, it was one of the more cleverly written definitive ending I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of movies.

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I dont think you would have to be a fanboy to understand a movie and its thematic implications. If one does not understand the role of Blake in the end , probably most of the ideias that the story builds upon probably flew over his head.
we understand the themes of the movie because we have an interest in the character apart from the big screen...most of the general audience isnt into the character the way how some of us are...its not about themes flying over anybodies head...its how the film simply ends with the altar rises when blake is on it...most people think this isnt the last nolan bat flick

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Most of the general audience are idiots in general, unfortunately.

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thats a little harsh imo

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Blake rising into the cave is a really ingenious hybrid of cliffhanger and definite end.

Honestly, it was one of the more cleverly written definitive ending I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of movies.
Agreed, i think that Bruce had a great send off, it was a great way to end his story.

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John Blake finding the cave and then cutting to credits is a cliffhanger. Sorry, it just is.
No, sorry it isn't. You've missed the point of the whole trilogy and what Nolan has been saying for the last four years.

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it is a cliff hanger ending...some people believe there is gonna be a 4th film...sadly...only us hype members and fanboys know the truth
There are non-hype members and non-fanboys that know the truth. Please step off that pedestal.

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Blake rising into the cave is a really ingenious hybrid of cliffhanger and definite end.

Honestly, it was one of the more cleverly written definitive ending I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of movies.
This is best way to put it.


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Old 08-16-2012, 11:07 PM   #265
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Blake rising into the cave is a really ingenious hybrid of cliffhanger and definite end.

Honestly, it was one of the more cleverly written definitive ending I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of movies.
I agree, but to call it a hybrid between cliffhanger and definitive end means it's a little of both, and that's straddling the fence just a tad my friend...

I happen to feel it's an ending, but I understand those that feel it's a cliffhanger, because they want to know [understand] the path of JGL.

Batman's story [Bruce Wayne's story, to be accurate] has ended, yes....
but where does the arc continue [or go] with JGL's character?

the fact that it's not clearly defined is evident from all the discussion threads across the net about whether he's going to Robin, or Nightwing, or Batman....

[or even Danger Mouse]

Personally, I'm satisfied with the ending, and I honestly don't care where it "goes",

but I accept that the masses [I believe you coined a different phrase for them]

will ponder away [to their heart's content] for months, if not years, regarding the path of JGL.

Being that this small detail was deliberately crafted / "set-up" in this fashion, [the platform rising out of view.....]

the contentious term "cliffhanger" may actually apply in this case..

[for those who require it to be thusly defined]

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No, sorry it isn't. You've missed the point of the whole trilogy and what Nolan has been saying for the last four years.



There are non-hype members and non-fanboys that know the truth. Please step off that pedestal.



This is best way to put it.
pray tell....please elaborate..
what specifically [in your opinion] is;

"...the point of the whole trilogy and what Nolan has been saying for the last four years"

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I feel the complete opposite in comparing the climaxes in TDKR with ROTJ. Jedi completely raised the action, the emotions and it felt like a satisfying climax that tied up all loose ends. The action was amazing in Jedi taking place in 3 completely different settings. TDKR seemed like you could intercut it with TDK and you'd think it was the same movie. (Other than the daylight) Jedi's emotional climax completely OWNS TDKR's emotional climax on every level. TDKR ended like a cliffhanger not a rousing finale. So while I agree that they are both flawed in terms of story, in the climax dept. Jedi owns.
wow..
"Jedi owns" ??????

JEDI was ****!
as someone who has watched and obsessed over all the Star wars movies even before the Prequels came out.... let's be honest here.. even Billy Batts said

"what's right is right"

JEDI was ****..

as bad as Jar-Jar was in Episode 1,
I'd still pick it over ROTJ.

wow...

hey, I respect your deference concerning TDKR, hey... so it had flaws... ok...
but I gotta call you out on the ROTJ statement bro


"the action was amazing in ROTJ"

really????

ok.... I'll stop being a shaft... personally I don't think ROTJ can hold TDKR's

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(To me) it is a very UN-ambiguous END. (No cliffhanger).

It's Bruce's story.

He passed the baton and moved on.

THE END.


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Old 08-17-2012, 12:04 AM   #269
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ROTJ was disappointing to me as it's ending was a let down (Darth Vader's death scene ?) and it never brought things back full circle.

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I have always been hard on ROTJ but as the years pass I am more forgiving.

For me Vader's redemption satisfies and carries the film.

Do wish ROTJ had been slightly more serious in tone (like EMPIRE).

And I ALWAYS wondered what it would be like if they had stuck to the original idea and used WOOKIES in place of EWOKS. (Could have been more intense and awesome).

I think TDKR is a stronger third film than JEDI, (and I am a BIG fan of the original SW trilogy so that is saying a lot).

Nolan took more risks in his third Batman...all the way through to the very satisfying final minutes.

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ROTJ has its moments for sure though, and really everything in the throne room is among my favorite stuff in the entire saga. For introducing the Emperor alone, I give that movie a pass and can look past the Ewoks.

I just love how TDKR is really able to get that sense of desperation and hopelessness in there. Really gives the whole thing that epic feel. And I think TDKR's post-battle ending trumps ROTJ's post-battle ending by a mile. Each character in TDKR gets an emotionally satisfying sendoff, which I don't think ROTJ quite pulls off.

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(To me) it is a very UN-ambiguous END. (No cliffhanger).

It's Bruce's story.

He passed the baton and moved on.

THE END.

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ROTJ has its moments for sure though, and really everything in the throne room is among my favorite stuff in the entire saga. For introducing the Emperor alone, I give that movie a pass and can look past the Ewoks.

I just love how TDKR is really able to get that sense of desperation and hopelessness in there. Really gives the whole thing that epic feel. And I think TDKR's post-battle ending trumps ROTJ's post-battle ending by a mile. Each character in TDKR gets an emotionally satisfying sendoff, which I don't think ROTJ quite pulls off.
TDKR didnt have dancing teady bears at the end though


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Though I love the movie, Ewoks defeating Imperial army was the biggest WTH moment in cinematic history .

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