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Old 07-27-2012, 06:03 AM   #51
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Making the movies like the arkham games to me means taking it back to tim burton's style, because that is basically what the games are. Sure they can have more faithful storylines but I'm not so sure its going to be a smash hit again before it runs into the same problems as the burton movies, in that the villains are the more interesting than batman.

There have been seven batman movies, I would like to see them take a break for at least seven years. You need to build up anticipation for it and people get tired of seeing the same thing over again.

The one thing a reboot does have over the last one is that the dark knight rises wasn't the disaster that batman and robin was.
Those games are more like the Animated Series than the Burton movies IMO.

I think the reboot should still have Nolans pseudo-realism but just go a little heavier on the pseudo. The Spiderman style is all wrong for a Batman movie. There's no grittiness there no matter how much they try. IMO Batman should still play out like a crime drama. Movies like Blade Runner, Se7en, Oldboy, Fight Club and Soylent Green... should be mixed with Planet of the Apes, RoboCop and Blade.

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:05 AM   #52
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Ideally, I'd just mix the Nolan Movies with the Arkham Games.

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Old 07-27-2012, 12:21 PM   #53
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Personally, I think the best tone would be a more pulp-ish tone: a little lighter, a little more fantastical, a little more adventurous. The sense should be that Bruce's fundamental motive is *not* expelling his own anger, but empathy and protectiveness towards the helpless. A Batman who is, on occasion, able to laugh ( or at least smirk a bit ).

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:07 PM   #54
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Whateva world snyder brings MOS in they should stick with that formula for batman.
Given Nolan's involvement, I'm not sure it'd be that different to TDK's formula, which is fine by me.

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Old 07-28-2012, 12:19 AM   #55
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You can have a dark film but remain comic book like. I hope they allow for more implausible baddies like Clayface and co but that doesn't mean we need to lighten up. Of course it depends on what genre they wanna take Batman in. Nolan did a crime story. The next guy may wanna go neo noir sci fi.

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Old 07-28-2012, 12:33 AM   #56
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Batman was always likely to go "lighter" after nolan just because it would be hard to go any darker.

WB is not stupid though they saw what happened to the last franchise when they went in an opposite direction. It put batman out of commission for near a decade.

I think the tone of Man of Steel may be a preview template for future WB superhero's.

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Old 07-29-2012, 02:25 AM   #57
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The Avengers has made more money than TDKR mainly because: (1) It's not as long, and (2) It was in 3-D. I doubt we're headed into a Batman Forever situation; as Bruce Malone said above me, the next one probably will be lighter because it's hard to get darker, without totally losing the things that make it a superhero story.

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Old 08-01-2012, 11:22 PM   #58
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Since The Avengers was such a major success at the box office, even more so than TDKR, does anyone else think that WB might want to make Batman less dark in the next series? Personally, I want them to keep it dark, but I can definitely see them bringing Batman Forever's style back as a possibility.
My assumption is there would be more of an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" type of mentality with the studio. The Avengers may have had a bigger opening weekend, but the Dark Knight series is still massively successful.

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Old 08-01-2012, 11:36 PM   #59
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At this point I just don't want to wait 5 or 8 years for the newest Batman movie, I understand WB wants Nolan's version fresh in people's minds but we're also in anticipation for the next Batman.

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Old 08-02-2012, 07:48 AM   #60
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I'd like to see the next incarnation, be a less 'real world based' so it can be open to a bit more fantasy.

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Old 08-02-2012, 08:22 AM   #61
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Batman should never go back to being 'lighter'.

It should NEVER be like The Avengers. That is Avengers' way, this is Batman's way.

All I want to see, is them taking things seriously, like Nolan did...but without Nolan's 'extreme seriousness', you know? Yes, make things more fun...but that doesn't mean it'll go along with The Avengers' way or Forever or whatever.

I want whatever makes the comics fun for people.

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Dark does not have to mean realistic. It can be set in a fantasy world and have the ability to remain serious in tone.

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Old 08-02-2012, 09:21 AM   #63
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Absolutely.

Batman Forever wasn't realistic, it was full of fantasy and it was dark, but it was camp, which was a damn shame.

Nolan's stuff is just too damn serious and realistic. But if Forever had actually a bit of Nolan's serious approach, it would have been a truly great Batman movie. And if Nolan's stuff had of loosened up and introduced a bit of fantasy like Forever, they would have been better than what they are now!

An appropriate balance has to be made for the future.

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Gid rid of the neon,campy sounds, and every single time Two Faces laughs and you have a much better movie.

And the nipples. Never forget.

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Gid rid of the neon,campy sounds, and every single time Two Faces laughs and you have a much better movie.

And the nipples. Never forget.


One day, I hope there will be the means to fan edit all that out

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It would be 20 minutes of Bruce talking

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And not forgetting the scene of Nicole Kidman draped in nothing but a bed sheet would remain!

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I don't mind that at all.

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Now I'm off to watch Dead Calm

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I honestly don't think they can afford to make another dark Batman franchise, and expect people to want to watch it after what Nolan just finished up. There's just no way. I think lighter is the best way to go - if not lighter, just not as deep and realistic. If the movie can start off with an established Batman with all his gadgets and toys without any explanation, the movie can go in a lot of directions Nolan's movies couldn't.

All I know is Robin is a must. The world is ready for it. It would also widen the demographic by a lot; it would bring in more kids, and more girls. A lot of fangirls out there are dying for their favorite Robins to be depicted on screen properly...or at least that's how it seems over at Tumblr.

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Nightwing at least.

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Personally, I think the best tone would be a more pulp-ish tone: a little lighter, a little more fantastical, a little more adventurous. The sense should be that Bruce's fundamental motive is *not* expelling his own anger, but empathy and protectiveness towards the helpless. A Batman who is, on occasion, able to laugh ( or at least smirk a bit ).
This. Especially that last sentence.

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I just want them to make the next Batman movie like a Batman animated series brought to life. That level of realism, that tone, its both comic booky and down to earth and dark and fun. I don't want a campy movie like the Schumacker movies were. And I don't want it dark like the Nolan films or darker.

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I say go even further with the dark. Combine the overwhelming sorrow of Mystic River and hybrid it with the extreme tension of No Country for Old Men.

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