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Old 07-25-2012, 11:55 PM   #151
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Pretty sure he just woke up and forgot that Alfred had left.

Or...yet another awkwardly, incongruously handled plot element.

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:20 AM   #152
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Batman was in this movie less then any I have seen yet.

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:22 AM   #153
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Bruce Wayne Rises was such a good movie.

Did anyone else catch the Scar on Bruce's arm?
Or the fact that Batman was in the movie for maybe half an hour.
that's bullcrap. even if you only count when he was on screen in the suit it's much longer than that. he has 20 min "on screen" time before the final fight even starts and he's pretty much a part of the scene from there till the blast. sure they cut back and forth between the fight and Catwoman blowing the tunnel and Gordon putting the jamming device on the bomb but all the while the fight is ongoing and it's cutting back and forth. then the chase and the bomb flight. all that goes on for about half an hour. So I'd say he has about 40-50 min where he's in the suit and on screen. that's quite a bit actually.

I personally don't draw a distinction between Bruce and Batman like that. They are one and the same to me. He doesn't stop being Batman when he takes the suit off.

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:23 AM   #154
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Batman was in this movie less then any I have seen yet.
Hey he was in the movie heaps! In fact a whole portion was dedicated to.... oh you mean the costume.... not Batman.

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:32 AM   #155
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First scene: Maybe ten minutes. Second: 10. Third: Is 10-20. It feels even less.

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:25 AM   #156
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I dont really agree with this. He was trying to tell him that Gotham is better served by Bruce Wayne then it is by batman. He didn't want to see bruce be killed as batman. Bruce obviously wasnt listening and if Alfred stuck around to keep on helping him, he would never understand that. Was he wrong, maybe, but its not selfish to want the best for a person even if it involves some tough love.
It's one thing for Alfred to voice these things and/or be angry but for him to just up and leave, to me that's ridiculous. It was convoluted to me. It's Alfred. It is not Alfred's place to leave like that. Even if he disagrees with Bruce. I mean he even nudged Bruce into a relationship with Miranda Tate, look where that got him!

Alfred instead of trying to prove a point by leaving would simply try to encourage Bruce into pushing him into the right direction.

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:32 AM   #157
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Hey I'm sorry, but there are SO many pages to look through at this stage in the hype. Figured I'd just ask.....

Did Osito make an appearance in this movie? Background? Foreground? Invisible?

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:37 AM   #158
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It's one thing for Alfred to voice these things and/or be angry but for him to just up and leave, to me that's ridiculous. It was convoluted to me. It's Alfred. It is not Alfred's place to leave like that. Even if he disagrees with Bruce. I mean he even nudged Bruce into a relationship with Miranda Tate, look where that got him!

Alfred instead of trying to prove a point by leaving would simply try to encourage Bruce into pushing him into the right direction.
But it's implied that that's all Alfred's been trying to do for the past 8 years. He's been pushing him to go out, move on...LIVE. Use Bruce Wayne and his resources to save Gotham, not Batman.

But Bruce wasn't having it.

There had to be a breaking point eventually and that came when Bruce decided to suit up again.

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:46 AM   #159
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Well having Bruce be inactive for 8 years was ****ing stupid.

Yes, build Wayne Manor and a new Batcave and just quit for 8 years. Batman's war was on crime not organized crime. Feh.

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Well having Bruce be inactive for 8 years was ****ing stupid.

Yes, build Wayne Manor and a new Batcave and just quit for 8 years. Batman's war was on crime not organized crime. Feh.
To be fair, though, if you re-watch Batman Begins, Alfred mentions to Bruce how they can make some "improvements in the south wing" where the Batcave is located, so the new and improved Batcave could have been constructed, but not fully operational, during the year between Begins and The Dark Knight. And if not for the Dent Act, Bruce would have been using it more often. Also, as Rachel explains to Bruce in Batman Begins, it was organized crime headed by the likes of Carmine Falcone that was the disease and that the petty crimes committed by the Joe Chill's were just mere symptoms. In other words, to combat the disease, you go after the source of the infection, not the symptoms. Even The Dark Knight establishes that Batman, Gordon, and Dent primary goal was to take down what was left of the mob.

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Too much hate. TDKR doesn't deserve it.

Perfect film? No.
An okay summer blockbuster movie that perfectly concludes the trilogy? Hell yes.

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Too much hate. TDKR doesn't deserve it.

Perfect film? No.
An okay summer blockbuster movie that perfectly concludes the trilogy? Hell yes.
I was totally expecting a bunch of halfwits and critic wannabes trying to look tough by criticising every point of movie, so I couldnt give any less damn about people's reviews expect my own. People waited and praised this movie to godlike levels that its almost a perfect oppurtunity for trolling and gaining something. Same reason why that Bleivik wannabe chose TDKR openings to slaughter as many people possible.


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Old 07-26-2012, 02:51 AM   #163
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Well having Bruce be inactive for 8 years was ****ing stupid.

Yes, build Wayne Manor and a new Batcave and just quit for 8 years. Batman's war was on crime not organized crime. Feh.
i kinda agree because that 8yr gap could have been room for a new trilogy without doing a reboot or origin again.he could have went against 3 villians and 3 films in that spand.

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Man can we really leave the shooting stuff outside of here?

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I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere but I haven't been able to find it. How is it that Bruce heals up so quickly in the prison after having his back damaged?

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I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere but I haven't been able to find it. How is it that Bruce heals up so quickly in the prison after having his back damaged?
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He has his vertebrae put back into place.The prison section takes place over 5 months.

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i kinda agree because that 8yr gap could have been room for a new trilogy without doing a reboot or origin again.he could have went against 3 villians and 3 films in that spand.
That's not the story Nolan wanted to tell though. The whole gist is that he is physically and emotionally scarred by the events of TDK.


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Old 07-26-2012, 03:52 AM   #168
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Hey he was in the movie heaps! In fact a whole portion was dedicated to.... oh you mean the costume.... not Batman.
This! A thousand times, this!
I always hate when they never show him out of costume in the comics or animated movies.

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Too much hate. TDKR doesn't deserve it.

Perfect film? No.
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perfectly?

If the movie has so many mistakes and well deserved criticism, it is not a perfect ending.

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perfectly?

If the movie has so many mistakes and well deserved criticism, it is not a perfect ending.
Pardon my poor choice of words. I think the movie is not as good as everybody wants it to be, not a masterpiece, not as good as TDK or BB but TDKR concluded Bruce's arc very well.

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I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere but I haven't been able to find it. How is it that Bruce heals up so quickly in the prison after having his back damaged?
Lovers of this movie are going to say "Because he is Batman" or "its a comic book movie. Things dont need to follow reality"

Haters are going to say "Its ridiculous and makes no sense. Nolan's been an advocate for reality since he first started making these movies and this doesn't fit"

Include me in the last group. It makes no sense and the way it was dealt with could've been much better or at least more believable.

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perfectly?

If the movie has so many mistakes and well deserved criticism, it is not a perfect ending.
If it being the perfect ending is reliant on 100% of people think it is perfect, then that is clearly never acheivable.

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Pardon my poor choice of words. I think the movie is not as good as everybody wants it to be, not a masterpiece, not as good as TDK or BB but TDKR concluded Bruce's arc very well.
It was an alright conclusion. Nolan could've done better if he wasnt so pretentious and wanted to cram so much into one story. Didnt he call this movie the best war movie since the silent era??

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That's not the story Nolan wanted to tell though. The whole gist is that he is physically and emotionally scarred by the events of TDK.
So we have to accept this BS excuse for the fact the movie dragged for the first hour???

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Lovers of this movie are going to say "Because he is Batman" or "its a comic book movie. Things dont need to follow reality"

Haters are going to say "Its ridiculous and makes no sense. Nolan's been an advocate for reality since he first started making these movies and this doesn't fit"

Include me in the last group. It makes no sense and the way it was dealt with could've been much better or at least more believable.
It doesn't make sense that he recovers from a damaged vertebrae over 5 months? I'm sorry, but it can take as little as 8-10 weeks to make such a recovery.

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