Discussion: The Economy, Fiscal Cliff, National Debt, And Other Financial Issues III

[8wid]

I don't think the Muslim Brotherhood is much of anything to worry about. The only real only place it may have come to power is in Egypt, and that didn't happen. Libya has a provisional government, Syria should have one too by the end of the year, Yemen didn't go that way, Tunisia didn't etc. The biggest issue coming out of the Middle East I see is a renewed civil war in Afghanistan or instability in Pakistan. Iran will never develop an atomic bomb, so the threat is much lessened compared to ten years ago.

[hippie_hunter]

Right now, the there is nothing to worry about the Muslim Brotherhood, but I fear that if we see them as a plague as opposed to a legitimate movement, there could be problems down the line.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by 8wid

I don't think the Muslim Brotherhood is much of anything to worry about. The only real only place it may have come to power is in Egypt, and that didn't happen. Libya has a provisional government, Syria should have one too by the end of the year, Yemen didn't go that way, Tunisia didn't etc. The biggest issue coming out of the Middle East I see is a renewed civil war in Afghanistan or instability in Pakistan. Iran will never develop an atomic bomb, so the threat is much lessened compared to ten years ago.

Wow.....ok...

[Paradoxium]

Duuuuudee, Egypt has the second strongest/largest Airforce in the middle east. You know the 200 F-16s given by the United States??? And equipment like that decays and requires maintenance. There is only a period of time for it be used.

Put the two together.

[8wid]

If the Federal Reserve is successfully audited and there are secret bailouts would it be enough for Congress to want to hand back control of the nation's monetary system to the Department of the Treasury again?

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by Paradoxium

Duuuuudee, Egypt has the second strongest/largest Airforce in the middle east. You know the 200 F-16s given by the United States??? And equipment like that decays and requires maintenance. There is only a period of time for it be used.

Put the two together.

The Egyptian military won't allow it to happen.

[enterthemadness]

So when is a Democrat or Republican gonna balance the budget and reduce the debt? Cause Obama and Romney ain't doing that...and I doubt the parties elect anyone who can keep that promise...so better question is when is a monetary collapse gonna happen? 6-8 years from now or closer to 2030?

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by enterthemadness

So when is a Democrat or Republican gonna balance the budget and reduce the debt? Cause Obama and Romney ain't doing that...and I doubt the parties elect anyone who can keep that promise...so better question is when is a monetary collapse gonna happen? 6-8 years from now or closer to 2030?

Well, of course Romney isn't....he isn't the President....

[8wid]

Millions wasted in Afghan reconstruction projects, finds report

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by 8wid

Millions wasted in Afghan reconstruction projects, finds report

What I don't understand is why???? why we are building all of this in a country that we know will fall right back into tribal warfare....as they always have....they care nothing of what was built for them.....

Example: The soccer field built for them that turned into the execution field for those that spoke out against the Taliban, and women who did not follow Sharia Law as closely as they felt they should...

Seriously, we are wasting our money here.....it is ridiculous.

[8wid]

Because the American military is for the most part totally incompetent on how to occupy and stabilize a country except through brute force. Their tactics and techniques are outdated and obsolete because they are based off research tactics from World War II and the Cold War. The US hasn't successfully occupied a country since Japan and Germany during World War II and just like Iraq the only way it could have happened is because they totally destroyed the country's infrastructure. The same thing happened in Iraq including the destruction of the oil producing infrastructure which is what helped increase the price of crude over the last ten years.

Plus lots of defense contractors pressure the regime to put in overly large and unneeded infrastructure in the country so they make more money and then also overstate the cost its needed with little Federal oversight. This is also why they went into Iraq to spend billions and so much went missing, was stolen, and most of the country still lies in ruins. Plus America and its corporations like pushing global influence in countries to push their vision of democracy on the world because they think it will create peace and stability while involving the actual indigenous people very little in the process.

America's imperialism is now blowing up in its face because no pro-Western government exists in Iraq now, the Pakistani's hate us, Afghanistan's government in Kabul is already thoroughly corrupt and will probably collapse when the country returns to civil war once NATO leaves, Egypt's US backed dictator is gone, Gadhafi was backed somewhat by the West and now he is gone, Tunisia is the same case, and so is Yemen. Syria is the only exception to this. The Arab world is not happy with America right now.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by 8wid

Because the American military is for the most part totally incompetent on how to occupy and stabilize a country except through brute force. Their tactics and techniques are outdated and obsolete because they are based off research tactics from World War II and the Cold War. The US hasn't successfully occupied a country since Japan and Germany during World War II and just like Iraq the only way it could have happened is because they totally destroyed the country's infrastructure. The same thing happened in Iraq including the destruction of the oil producing infrastructure which is what helped increase the price of crude over the last ten years.

Plus lots of defense contractors pressure the regime to put in overly large and unneeded infrastructure in the country so they make more money and then also overstate the cost its needed with little Federal oversight. This is also why they went into Iraq to spend billions and so much went missing, was stolen, and most of the country still lies in ruins. Plus America and its corporations like pushing global influence in countries to push their vision of democracy on the world because they think it will create peace and stability while involving the actual indigenous people very little in the process.

America's imperialism is now blowing up in its face because no pro-Western government exists in Iraq now, the Pakistani's hate us, Afghanistan's government in Kabul is already thoroughly corrupt and will probably collapse when the country returns to civil war once NATO leaves, Egypt's US backed dictator is gone, Gadhafi was backed somewhat by the West and now he is gone, Tunisia is the same case, and so is Yemen. Syria is the only exception to this. The Arab world is not happy with America right now.

Do you live in the US?

[8wid]

Maybe... why?

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by 8wid

Maybe... why?

Just wondering....how can you "maybe" live in the US....????

[8wid]

Because I'm from PEI and went to school in America.

[Kelly]

Canada???? As in Prince Edward Island?????

[8wid]

Yep the most boring island in all the Western Hemisphere.

[enterthemadness]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Canada???? As in Prince Edward Island?????

no wonder I did so bad in school....I had no idea Canada was a ****ing island. Dammit NC Education system...

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by enterthemadness

no wonder I did so bad in school....I had no idea Canada was a ****ing island. Dammit NC Education system...

Canada isn't an island doofus.... Prince Edward Island is a province of Canada....

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by 8wid

Yep the most boring island in all the Western Hemisphere.

I love Prince Edward Island....I flew over it one time.....

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by 8wid

The Arab world is not happy with America right now.

The Muslim world hasn't been happy with the United States for decades.

[8wid]

BP ordered to pay $3.1bn in damages over Rosneft deal

I hope it hurts them as much as they hurt the Gulf in 2010.

[enterthemadness]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Canada isn't an island doofus.... Prince Edward Island is a province of Canada....

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*goes to wiki*

duuuuude, I thought you guys were joking. what a ego to name a place after you... he should change the name to 'Legion of Doom' or Skull Island. Be bad ass.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by enterthemadness

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*goes to wiki*

duuuuude, I thought you guys were joking. what a ego to name a place after you... he should change the name to 'Legion of Doom' or Skull Island. Be bad ass.

Um, he's dead....

And yeah....no one has ever named a state or city after themselves...

[chaseter]

Originally Posted by 8wid

I don't think the Muslim Brotherhood is much of anything to worry about. The only real only place it may have come to power is in Egypt, and that didn't happen. Libya has a provisional government, Syria should have one too by the end of the year, Yemen didn't go that way, Tunisia didn't etc. The biggest issue coming out of the Middle East I see is a renewed civil war in Afghanistan or instability in Pakistan. Iran will never develop an atomic bomb, so the threat is much lessened compared to ten years ago.

That's like saying the KKK is nothing to worry about here.