The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 2

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by Jick09

I think TDKR was pushed over there.
Even so, I believe Spider-Man is much more popular over there than Batman.

Still its better for both to not clash with each other

[Spiderdevil]

225-250 domestic if it is a really good movie. It won't pass 250.

This Chaseter's post from before the movie was released
Now that it has crossed 250M,he thinks its a disappointment

[spider-neil]

700m + WW is a decent return and more than justifies a sequel. That's all I care about, beyond that the sooner this movie is on Blu ray the better.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

700m + WW is a decent return and more than justifies a sequel. That's all I care about, beyond that the sooner this movie is on Blu ray the better.

Like I said, I never cared about the box office gross that much. As long as it earns enough cash to produce a sequel.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

14M?

$21 million*

I haven't checked how much it made domestically since last week, sue me

So taking an average,it has met its expectations

When it's a CBM, it didn't MEET those expectations when it should have and now being behind an animated film for top gross...that's not too lovely, now is it?

Your bitterness and pessimism associated with this movie is Amazing

Lol!

You know, it's really not my fault that this movie isn't that good you know.

Please tell me how scenes like the Bathroom scene or the subway car scene or the scenes at OsCorp in the beggining or the Car Jacker scene or the whole Lizard fight or the Basket ball scene are overly Dark??

The movie is realistic,its not dark..it didnt use BB's tone in the first place
And Daredevil reinvented the dark toneEverybody give it credit

Did you at least read what I showed you of BB's impact and how it said it DID inspire TAS-M before you try to defend your point again?

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Fifth.

The Avengers
The Dark Knight Rises
Ice Age 4
The Hunger Games
The Amazing Spider-Man

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/char...yr=2012&p=.htm

Fifth. Whatever, its still very, very good! I don't know why people are trying to put TASM down by saying its the lowest grossing film in the franchise. Everyone knew it would make the least amount of money. If anything, it did much better than what people expected.

[AF3619]

Whatever, we will be getting a sequel , that´s all i care for now
it made 700+ WW and Bluray sales hopefully are good sooo yeah when does it release?

[ShadowEdgeworth]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

$21 million*

I haven't checked how much it made domestically since last week, sue me



When it's a CBM, it didn't MEET those expectations when it should have and now being behind an animated film for top gross...that's not too lovely, now is it?



Lol!

You know, it's really not my fault that this movie isn't that good you know.



Did you at least read what I showed you of BB's impact and how it said it DID inspire TAS-M before you try to defend your point again?

Animated films like Ice Age tend to have even wider age and gender demographics and appeal than most Superhero movies, with TA and Batman being the obvious and pretty much only exceptions. Also it's helped by the fact that Ice Age's popularity is pretty much solid due to the fact that it's FOURTH in its saga, with the third installment making $800 million, and has become somehow even more profitable than most other movie franchises currently going. It's quite incomparable. :S

[Picard Sisko]

With animated films, you have a ton of kids going while they drag their parents along (which means extra movie ticket sales). Believe it or not, I haven't really seen that many kids going to see TASM. Mostly teens and adults.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

I expect atleast half of the Avenger's money as long as it does not clash with TDKR
Avengers made 84.1M in China
So 40M is a possibility
So around 725M overall,Almost double of what BB made
But hey,BB is a bigger financial success

How did Batman Begins make more money?

It wasn't profitable untill it came out on dvd.

ASM will make around 50 m before it leaves theaters.

[Picard Sisko]

When does TASM come out on blu ray?

[Spider-Fan]

Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

Why should you factor out the 3D boost? If you want to please also count out the money they spent on filming in 3D and reduce the budget
And no,more money was not spent ,Sm2 budget was almost 260M and SM3 was 310M..Inflation works both ways

But still it made lot lot more compared to the solo MCU movies(Except IM1) and BB

Yes it does. So please inflate SM2 and SM3's BO into your figures as wellm which makes the difference even larger.

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

$21 million*

I haven't checked how much it made domestically since last week, sue me

You better lawyer up *******,because I am not coming back for 21 million,I am coming back for everything

When it's a CBM, it didn't MEET those expectations when it should have

Where it should? Dafuq do you mean? Sony is a japanese company,it would care more about Asian earnings
Yeah so it didnt meet expectations in one country and exceeded in another 2 dozen countries,I'll take that
And you are
TASM will end around 260M Domestic i.e 30M more than its budget.
BB had 55M more than its budget and the way Nolanites talk,it is considered a huge success
I dont understand how 25M makes such a big difference,especially when overseas earnings are almost 300M more than it
Studios dont care about from where the money is coming from as long it is coming(especially if it is not an American Company) which is why movies like Pirates will keep on coming

and now being behind an animated film for top gross...that's not too lovely, now is it

Please educate yourself and look at how much Animated films earn
They are aimed at the kid population and earn truckloads due to that even if they are terrible
You are incredibly stupid if you thought this Ice-Age movie wasnt gonna earn money when the previous one earned close to 900M

You know, it's really not my fault that this movie isn't that good you know.

Well you've given TDKR 10/10 so I've have an idea about your credibility on rating movies

Did you at least read what I showed you of BB's impact and how it said it DID inspire TAS-M before you try to defend your point again?

Half of the movies you posted werent even Dark themed
And TASM isnt even Dark,so how has BB influenced it again?
It looks more comparable to movies like Kickass,Defendor and Iron Man than BB to me
So first explain to me what aspects did it copy from BB?
It wasnt even the first dark superhero movie

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by MessiahDecoy123

How did Batman Begins make more money?

It wasn't profitable untill it came out on dvd.

ASM will make around 50 m before it leaves theaters.

I was being sarcastic

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

Yes it does. So please inflate SM2 and SM3's BO into your figures as wellm which makes the difference even larger.

SM1
Budget-185M
Box Office-1.1 Billion

SM2
Budget-260M
Box Office-996M

SM3
Budget-310M
Box Office-1023M

TASM
Budget-230M
Box Office-725-740M (App.)
(All Numbers after adjusting for Inflation)

So
SM1 made 5.9 times its budget
SM2 made 3.8 times its budget
SM3 made 3.3 times its budget

TASM will end up making 3.21 times its budget

Very much comparable to SM2 and SM3

Just for comparison sake the only previous Batman movie BB could outgross was Batman and Robin and that too by a small margin,not to mention all the other Batman movies had lesser budget,lesser screens,lower ticket cost,lower advertising budget and lesser penetration and showings in the foreign market

[sontin]

Where is the 3D-Effect of all previous movies?

For Example SM3:
Budget 310M -> 330M
Domestic 390M -> 468M (+ 20%)
OS 638 -> 829,4M (+30%)
WW 1297,4M

With the 3D-Effect SM3 would did 3,9x times of the budget.

[Spider-Fan]

Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

SM1
Budget-185M
Box Office-1.1 Billion

SM2
Budget-260M
Box Office-996M

SM3
Budget-310M
Box Office-1023M

TASM
Budget-230M
Box Office-725-740M (App.)
(All Numbers after adjusting for Inflation)

So
SM1 made 5.9 times its budget
SM2 made 3.8 times its budget
SM3 made 3.3 times its budget

TASM will end up making 3.21 times its budget

Very much comparable to SM2 and SM3

Just for comparison sake the only previous Batman movie BB could outgross was Batman and Robin and that too by a small margin,not to mention all the other Batman movies had lesser budget,lesser screens,lower ticket cost,lower advertising budget and lesser penetration and showings in the foreign market

It's also making about 250+ less million than the others with that adjusted figure. That is not good by any means, and something I am sure Sony is not happy about.

As for Messiah's point of TASM2's BO becoming a billion dollar film, history is against that assumption. Yes, TDK did it, but TDK had so many intangibles you couldn't forsee. TASM2 may not even have the same director, and for TASM2 to make a billion, it needs to be an event film. BB had low dips in BO % per week. TASM had some steep ones. That says WOM wasn't as good. Thus, I don't see it happening.

[Jexx]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Lol!

You know, it's really not my fault that this movie isn't that good you know.

I miss when you complimented me for not disregarding other people's opinions about things..

But ever since you began arguing with Spider-Devil you became much more blunt and didn't really regard the other people who had different opinions to you about the movie :/

[LegendAssemble]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

It's also making about 250+ less million than the others with that adjusted figure. That is not good by any means, and something I am sure Sony is not happy about.

As for Messiah's point of TASM2's BO becoming a billion dollar film, history is against that assumption. Yes, TDK did it, but TDK had so many intangibles you couldn't forsee. TASM2 may not even have the same director, and for TASM2 to make a billion, it needs to be an event film. BB had low dips in BO % per week. TASM had some steep ones. That says WOM wasn't as good. Thus, I don't see it happening.

This might be the smartest post I've read on this board. Someone knows what thy're talking about. Honestly Dark Knight wouldn't have made as much money had Heath Ledger not died. It was a brilliant movie and much better than its predecessor but lets not forget Spider-Man 2 and the Empire Strikes Back, two sequels generally considered superior to the original and both ending up with a smaller BO. The fact that Ledger died and played a character, whos performance stole the show definitely helped there.

The fact is Sony screwed up rebooting the franchise so soon, whether it was needed or not, the last one was still fresh in a lot of peoples minds and there wasn't a huge demand to see Peter Parker become Spider-Man again. Before the Dark Knight the last time we saw the Joker on screen was 1989 and Jack Nicholson's performance was applauded. While Spider-man is arguably as recognizable and iconic as Superman and Batman, the Joker and Lex Luthor are much bigger names than the Green Goblin or any of Spideys villains really.

The next movie might be screwed if Webb doesn't return and even if he does the third WILL be screwed because he'll then be in debt two films to fox and will not be returning after that. Sony really made some bad calls in the production stage, if they really wanted Raimi out that bad they should have just grew a pair and kicked him, instead of having the stupid Spider-Man 4 front production for the reboot. That way maybe they could have found a director willing and ABLE to commit to more than one installment.

[LegendAssemble]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

With animated films, you have a ton of kids going while they drag their parents along (which means extra movie ticket sales). Believe it or not, I haven't really seen that many kids going to see TASM. Mostly teens and adults.

Believe it or not superheroes are popular with kids, thats no excuse.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

It's also making about 250+ less million than the others with that adjusted figure. That is not good by any means, and something I am sure Sony is not happy about.

I think they're slightly disappointed that it won't cross 800 m.

But they're aren't going to throw themselves off a bridge. ASM is still one of Sony's biggest grossers and easily the highest grossing roboots of all time.

As for Messiah's point of TASM2's BO becoming a billion dollar film, history is against that assumption. Yes, TDK did it, but TDK had so many intangibles you couldn't forsee. TASM2 may not even have the same director, and for TASM2 to make a billion, it needs to be an event film. BB had low dips in BO % per week. TASM had some steep ones. That says WOM wasn't as good. Thus, I don't see it happening.

ASM had decent legs. Better than Transformers 2.

ASM2 has the potential to be like Mission Impossible 4.

MI3 got a warm response critically but took a hit at the box office due to a somewhat disappointing Mission Impossible 2 (like Spider-man 3). But after MI3 the franchise was able to rebound.

I see the same thing happening to the Spider-man franchise after ASM.

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

It's also making about 250+ less million than the others with that adjusted figure. That is not good by any means, and something I am sure Sony is not happy about.

Sony would be satisfied and for 4 reasons
1.Its a rebooted franchise
2.It was competing against 2 most anticipated superhero movie in a long time and still did pretty well
3.The Target Audience was lower from the Raimi's Spider-man(not exactly a kids movie anymore)
4.The budget is lower than SM2 and SM3

Even SM2 made 150M lesser than SM1 despite increasing the budget by 75M..I didnt see sony panicing then?

BB had low dips in BO % per week. TASM had some steep ones.

The Shooting and stiff competition had something to do with it
And by no means BB is an above average financial success
Fantastic 4 for example made 330M from a 100M budget the same year
And the domestic isnt an achievement either,FF made 154M domesic(55M more than its budget,just like BB)

That says WOM wasn't as good. Thus, I don't see it happening.

Audience rating of BB at RT is 3.9/5 while its 4/5 for TASM
Which gives us an idea about WOM

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by LegendAssemble

The next movie might be screwed if Webb doesn't return and even if he does the third WILL be screwed because he'll then be in debt two films to fox and will not be returning after that. Sony really made some bad calls in the production stage, if they really wanted Raimi out that bad they should have just grew a pair and kicked him, instead of having the stupid Spider-Man 4 front production for the reboot. That way maybe they could have found a director willing and ABLE to commit to more than one installment.

Webb did a good job but not an extraordinary one so why are you overrating him so much?
Whoever will be the new director,he has same chances as Webb of making a better sequel with the origin done away with

[Spiderdevil]

Originally Posted by LegendAssemble

Believe it or not superheroes are popular with kids, thats no excuse.

Ice Age's domestic gross is almost half of TASM's so why are we even debating this?

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by LegendAssemble

Believe it or not superheroes are popular with kids, thats no excuse.

Not as popular as movies like Ice Age with PG ratings, rather than PG-13.