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Old 01-11-2013, 03:13 PM   #1
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Default The Importance Of Shield


You know having Shield in the Avengers makes life so much easier for Marvel.
Although I personally think they won't see the potential.


For instance as they were walking down the halls they could have had
Fury as he was showing then around talk to them about their advancements in Science.

They could have even introduced Pym at one point as a Scientist with his assistant and wife Janet.He could talk about how they are working on Nano Bot Technology Or Insects.
Feeling like Superheros raised the stakes as he said in the Movie.
They have to do all research they could have even given a nod to Spider man without worrying about Copyrights issue indirectly as they say they found out there was a boy sticking to walls.

Then they could have talked about these prototype Machines/Robots they were working before to Avengers to help even the Odds with Super powered villains Ego Early Ultron.
You could say Stark was working on it before the Avenge Initiative or as an Alternative to it.
That ties it right up to the end of the Iron Man movie.
Later Pym takes this prototype and perfect it without the Avengers knowing something Fury does as a Backup in case the Avengers ever get out of hand but unfortunetly it backfires.
I believe there was an Iron Man story Arc.Where Stark does that with different Armors that look like Thor and such.

Then he could have gone on to talk about how Shield was all over the world in Wakanda,(A.K.A.Panther,A.K.A. Alpha Flight)Canada where all types of weird sightings have been happening.Or where they have sanctions provided by the several other Governments or Countries.They have studies in a Tebet in a Buddhist temple of a man that turn his fist into iron.
Take them downstairs and introduce them to the man you are sending on that mission to get information The shield Martial Arts hand to hand combat Master Shang Chi.
Introduce Experiments they have been working on with little success Super Soldier or enhanced strength with little success except for one person in particular who disappeared an ex convict name Luke Cage.

Let me introduce you to our weapons specialist Mark Specter.
HE works on all these Gadgets and weapon if not mention him as one of there mercenaries,or Stark could mention as one of his competitors.
Billionaire weapons producer.
Get it A.K.A Moon knight who to me is like Marvel Batman.
Get the picture pick one.

Marvel has a plethora of opportunities by having tied in Shield that even DC does not have for the benefit of their movies I hope they utilize this.
Maybe that's what the T.V. show will based on but it sure would have been nice to see them do some of this in the Avengers so that other Avengers can tie in easy.
I know I would have loved to see Pym.
AS a nod to him as an original Avenger even just a cameo as a Scientist.

What do you guys think???

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Old 01-11-2013, 03:21 PM   #2
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The problem with cameos is that the character, if being played by a major actor, needs to have a solo film or a larger role up-and-coming. Otherwise you have to cast a nobody and then many years down the road recast. These little references can be tricky things to pull of logistically.

I think the Avengers movie would have been too early to introduce Pym. It worked introducing Hawkeye in Thor because the actor was guaranteed a larger role in The Avengers the very next year.

The point is that yes, Marvel does have a lot of opportunities, but they have to be careful with how it is executed. As a counterpoint, look at all the references to characters in the Fox X-Men movies that later end up being retconned due to poor planning / foresight.

Restraint is better than future continuity issues.

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:14 PM   #3
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To me, this was the best comic movie made so far. It was filled from start to finish with things from the books. I'm sure everyone has at least something else, easter egg wise, they would have liked to have seen, but I see no reason to complain about things left out.

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Oh no Im not complaining nor am I upset.
Im just talking about what they could have do or could do in future films.
I hope they jump on it and how smart it was to invovle Shield.
Its Golden.
I was wondering what other ideas anyone else had or comments.
Shield is the perfect doorway to the Universe of Marvel.
Yoy could explaib anything through Shield.

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Old 01-11-2013, 07:06 PM   #5
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Ok, I have something I'd like to see in a future Marvel movie, whether it being one of his own movies or guest starring in a future Avengers flick...

...Since Marvel had re-aquired the rights to Daredevil, he could play the outsider role in the MCU that Spider-man usually occupies(DD does too, but y'know), so we have an incident not unlike in the Civil War storyline, with Shield trying to track him down and bring him in for questioning. So they chase him across rooftops on those flying things they have, you know, those eh flying things shaped like half an eggcup with a flat base, that one person stands in.
It will be interesting to see if they go with that CW storyline at some point, but in the meantime it would be good to see something similar with them trying to bring any independant supers who are hesitant about interacting with the government for fear of losing their anonimoty.

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Old 01-12-2013, 02:42 AM   #6
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Oh no Im not complaining nor am I upset.
Im just talking about what they could have do or could do in future films.
I hope they jump on it and how smart it was to invovle Shield.
Its Golden.
I was wondering what other ideas anyone else had or comments.
Shield is the perfect doorway to the Universe of Marvel.
Yoy could explaib anything through Shield.
I disagree. I really don't want them to explain EVERYTHING through SHIELD. I want it to be about The Avengers, not SHIELD's Avengers.

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Old 01-12-2013, 02:25 PM   #7
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I disagree. I really don't want them to explain EVERYTHING through SHIELD. I want it to be about The Avengers, not SHIELD's Avengers.
I agree they dont have to but it makes it more within the realm of believeability.
Instead of having to explain things a common cerxumstance or coincedence.
As in example.Reed Richards Scientist,Henry Pym Scientist,Bruce Banner Scientist etc.etc
All fall victim to there ezperiments or andevors in the realm of mocies that gets kind of hookey after a while.
All coincedence?
The best way is to make it purposeful or diliberate in their presentation.
In reality if there was an organization such as Shield it would only make sense that they would be monitering things and events all over the world.
Well use that as you basepoint.
Also the viewer needs to have someone they xan connect with so,that they feel that,the are watching the movie through their eyes.
Which is why Coulsen was so popular.
Also one od the reasons why Hulk was so sucessful in this movie.
Because neither of the first two movies had that.
Both yes I said both wouls have been more widely sucessful had,thier,been
a Rick Jones,or Sam Wilson or someone as such.
That what made the tv show so sucessful.
Becuase we watched it through the eyes of the people ordinary people like us he helped every week.

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