"You ready for another Bout?"- The Thor/Chris Hemsworth Thread

[Vartha]

Me too, Not sure why unless HE wasn't sure what damage the bullets could do to HIM.

[Rock Sexton]

Originally Posted by violetspike123

Why did Thor take cover from jet gunfire. It really bothered me.

Why? Dude had no idea what was coming out him. He just sees this giant mechanized flying ship firing salvo at him. The whole reason he was there in the first place was to distract the Hulk and no the jet was doing that.

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by American Maid

Nah, it's a reference to how the foreshadowing of Surtur was presented in the Simonson run.

This article talks about it as #10 on their list. So just scroll down a little bit on the link to see several panels of it. http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/0...simonson-thor/

Looking at that list again makes me wonder if they might have an opening scene like this too As the article says, it gives the audience a sense of what a huge challenge he'll be to Thor and fam.

I know lol that is what I was talking about, that "DOOM" was the sound of him welding twilight. which would be a great way to start the film off!

What I would like to see, this is far fetched, but maybe 3 or 4 times through out the film. We randomly get that DOOM and it literally shakes the 9 realms! just a few random spots through out the movie. I think that would be friggin awesome

[Godzilla2000]

Originally Posted by violetspike123

Why did Thor take cover from jet gunfire. It really bothered me.

Dude...the answer is pretty apparent why Thor took cover! He didn't want the bullet fire messing up his golden locks.

[JB-the-Hunter]

The same reason humans take cover when it starts raining.

[BoredGuy]

yeah, he may be impervious to bullets, but I'm sure getting shot by a fighter jet is still annoying as s**t

[Vartha]

Yeah but that jet MAY have been Armed with Hulk piercing Bullets lol

[elizah72]

Something interesting I've been considering. There is a bus on the new set pics with a movie clearly titled "Moral Sacrifice" advertised on it. This is very very likely something that is a hint as to what is in store for Thor to deal with in Thor 2. I would be very very surprised if it wasn't. How do you think that "moral sacrifice" might influence the story for Thor in Thor 2?

And I dont believe it's just a random movie title, "self sacrifice" was clearly a theme for Thor in Thor 1, so seems like a story about "moral sacrifice" is a likely follow up. My theory with some recent spoilers so tags...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

at the moment the theory I have, explains why Thor is alone fighting the Dark Elves and Malekith in these new scenes filming now. If he is asked by Odin to let the Dark Elves have Midgard, because there is so much bad going on in Asgard and the other realms. With the fighting in Bourne Woods shown a while back, it seems like there may be another non elf army threatening everyone else as well, and so it's seen as "for the greater good" that Thor just stay on fighting for Asgard and to help fight off this army, and ignore for now what happens to Midgard. But this is not a "moral sacrifice" Thor can accept. He vowed to defend Midgard and wont stand by and let it be taken over or destroyed, and so he deserts Asgard willingly, and defies father again, and goes down to defend Earth against the Dark Elves anyway. This would certainly make Odin less likely to make him King if he seems he's more invested in saving and protecting another realm than staying and defending Asgard and getting the other threat back under control. but at the same time, I can't see Thor doing any less than trying to defend Earth in such a situation. So... thoughts?

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by elizah72

Something interesting I've been considering. There is a bus on the new set pics with a movie clearly titled "Moral Sacrifice" advertised on it. This is very very likely something that is a hint as to what is in store for Thor to deal with in Thor 2. I would be very very surprised if it wasn't. How do you think that "moral sacrifice" might influence the story for Thor in Thor 2?

And I dont believe it's just a random movie title, "self sacrifice" was clearly a theme for Thor in Thor 1, so seems like a story about "moral sacrifice" is a likely follow up. My theory with some recent spoilers so tags...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

at the moment the theory I have, explains why Thor is alone fighting the Dark Elves and Malekith in these new scenes filming now. If he is asked by Odin to let the Dark Elves have Midgard, because there is so much bad going on in Asgard and the other realms. With the fighting in Bourne Woods shown a while back, it seems like there may be another non elf army threatening everyone else as well, and so it's seen as "for the greater good" that Thor just stay on fighting for Asgard and to help fight off this army, and ignore for now what happens to Midgard. But this is not a "moral sacrifice" Thor can accept. He vowed to defend Midgard and wont stand by and let it be taken over or destroyed, and so he deserts Asgard willingly, and defies father again, and goes down to defend Earth against the Dark Elves anyway. This would certainly make Odin less likely to make him King if he seems he's more invested in saving and protecting another realm than staying and defending Asgard and getting the other threat back under control. but at the same time, I can't see Thor doing any less than trying to defend Earth in such a situation. So... thoughts?

That would be interesting and great to see if it did happen.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I always did think that there might be something that happens in this film that will cause Thor to leave Asgard by the end of the film and stay on Earth which would allow him to become more established as a hero on Earth to its inhabitants and that we wouldn't have to wait to see Thor appear on screen once the Avengers 2 came out.

[elizah72]

Originally Posted by herolee10

That would be interesting and great to see if it did happen.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I always did think that there might be something that happens in this film that will cause Thor to leave Asgard by the end of the film and stay on Earth which would allow him to become more established as a hero on Earth to its inhabitants and that we wouldn't have to wait to see Thor appear on screen once the Avengers 2 came out.

That is another excellent point. This scenario might allow him to do that in a way that makes sense.

and not to make it about Loki (as some of you know I often do ) but....

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

wouldn't it be a major surprising twist if in the process of all of this, Thor loses favor with Odin, and Loki on the other hand stays and fights for Asgard and gains Odin's favor and approval finally?

[American Maid]

Originally Posted by elizah72

Something interesting I've been considering. There is a bus on the new set pics with a movie clearly titled "Moral Sacrifice" advertised on it. This is very very likely something that is a hint as to what is in store for Thor to deal with in Thor 2. I would be very very surprised if it wasn't. How do you think that "moral sacrifice" might influence the story for Thor in Thor 2?

And I dont believe it's just a random movie title, "self sacrifice" was clearly a theme for Thor in Thor 1, so seems like a story about "moral sacrifice" is a likely follow up.

I think it's more likely to be an Easter Egg, ie, a hidden cute inside reference placed there to wink at fans like us. In Thor1, Easter Eggs included the following: the water tank in the background when Thor is walking up to the Destroyer reads "Home of the Vikings". On a billboard that Jane and Co. can see when they're sitting on the roof of Smith Motors reads "New Mexico, Land of Enchantment. . .Journey into Mystery".

Not to say that it can't be more significant, as you suggest. I just think it's less likely.

Now, to argue the "pro" side of the case: I recall reading that they (whoever "they" are) have planned to have all the heroes struggle with what transpired in The Avengers. They would all be processing the implications. Yes, they saved the world, but a lot of bystanders were hurt. I heard that in IM3, they would specifically discuss (a) bystander(s) that died. The heroes have to come to terms with that. In The Avengers, we see Thor ruminating on how the Asgardians are the ones who have caused all this trouble. That may continue to weigh on his mind.

I can make some general comments about what elizah says behind the spoiler button, before I get to specifics.

When I was thinking about her post, I realized I wasn't quite certain what "moral sacrifice" meant to people. I did a quick Google, and found a couple of different meanings. Generally, it means the sacrifice of one's morals (duh), but there are all sorts of different sacrifices and all sorts of different morals. So they can go in any of a number of different directions with this. It's rich in possibilities, and it's another reason why this movie could be really terrific (if indeed they incorporate this element). I think we'll have a hard time anticipating what such a moral sacrifice they might have in mind, though, because there are so many possibilities.

Originally Posted by elizah72

My theory with some recent spoilers so tags...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

at the moment the theory I have, explains why Thor is alone fighting the Dark Elves and Malekith in these new scenes filming now. If he is asked by Odin to let the Dark Elves have Midgard, because there is so much bad going on in Asgard and the other realms. With the fighting in Bourne Woods shown a while back, it seems like there may be another non elf army threatening everyone else as well, and so it's seen as "for the greater good" that Thor just stay on fighting for Asgard and to help fight off this army, and ignore for now what happens to Midgard. But this is not a "moral sacrifice" Thor can accept. He vowed to defend Midgard and wont stand by and let it be taken over or destroyed, and so he deserts Asgard willingly, and defies father again, and goes down to defend Earth against the Dark Elves anyway. This would certainly make Odin less likely to make him King if he seems he's more invested in saving and protecting another realm than staying and defending Asgard and getting the other threat back under control. but at the same time, I can't see Thor doing any less than trying to defend Earth in such a situation. So... thoughts?

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I have the impression that Odin in the books would give this order. I'm not as certain that Odin in the movies would. So I'm not certain this exact dilemma would be set up. On the other hand, it would add weight to the iconic "For Asgard!"/"For Midgard!"/"For Myself!" climax with Surtur in the Simonson arc.

So does this mean I'm going to have to add Ultimates Thor to my (ever longer) reading list?

[American Maid]

Originally Posted by herolee10

That would be interesting and great to see if it did happen.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I always did think that there might be something that happens in this film that will cause Thor to leave Asgard by the end of the film and stay on Earth which would allow him to become more established as a hero on Earth to its inhabitants and that we wouldn't have to wait to see Thor appear on screen once the Avengers 2 came out.

That is a very good point! AN interesting angle that I had not thought about.

[American Maid]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

I know lol that is what I was talking about, that "DOOM" was the sound of him welding twilight. which would be a great way to start the film off!

What I would like to see, this is far fetched, but maybe 3 or 4 times through out the film. We randomly get that DOOM and it literally shakes the 9 realms! just a few random spots through out the movie. I think that would be friggin awesome

Well, I looked at the pages again, and it doesn't look like the word is being used as onomatopoeia (hooray! I got to use that word in conversation once in my life!) for the hammer connecting with the work, but rather the narrator's comment on the implication of Surtur's forging Twilight.

But I agree with the idea you put forward--have some cutaways several times to a big figure forging something, we hear the sound shake the theater, and we are filled with dread. Definitely start the film with one of those.

I think it definitely would be in keeping with the spirit of Simonson's presentation.

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by elizah72

Something interesting I've been considering. There is a bus on the new set pics with a movie clearly titled "Moral Sacrifice" advertised on it. This is very very likely something that is a hint as to what is in store for Thor to deal with in Thor 2. I would be very very surprised if it wasn't. How do you think that "moral sacrifice" might influence the story for Thor in Thor 2?

And I dont believe it's just a random movie title, "self sacrifice" was clearly a theme for Thor in Thor 1, so seems like a story about "moral sacrifice" is a likely follow up. My theory with some recent spoilers so tags...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

at the moment the theory I have, explains why Thor is alone fighting the Dark Elves and Malekith in these new scenes filming now. If he is asked by Odin to let the Dark Elves have Midgard, because there is so much bad going on in Asgard and the other realms. With the fighting in Bourne Woods shown a while back, it seems like there may be another non elf army threatening everyone else as well, and so it's seen as "for the greater good" that Thor just stay on fighting for Asgard and to help fight off this army, and ignore for now what happens to Midgard. But this is not a "moral sacrifice" Thor can accept. He vowed to defend Midgard and wont stand by and let it be taken over or destroyed, and so he deserts Asgard willingly, and defies father again, and goes down to defend Earth against the Dark Elves anyway. This would certainly make Odin less likely to make him King if he seems he's more invested in saving and protecting another realm than staying and defending Asgard and getting the other threat back under control. but at the same time, I can't see Thor doing any less than trying to defend Earth in such a situation. So... thoughts?

Elizah, make sure you save this comment I am about write, or take a picture of it, cause it doesn't happen often. But I agree with you I like this idea lol

Originally Posted by American Maid

I think it's more likely to be an Easter Egg, ie, a hidden cute inside reference placed there to wink at fans like us. In Thor1, Easter Eggs included the following: the water tank in the background when Thor is walking up to the Destroyer reads "Home of the Vikings". On a billboard that Jane and Co. can see when they're sitting on the roof of Smith Motors reads "New Mexico, Land of Enchantment. . .Journey into Mystery".

Not to say that it can't be more significant, as you suggest. I just think it's less likely.

Now, to argue the "pro" side of the case: I recall reading that they (whoever "they" are) have planned to have all the heroes struggle with what transpired in The Avengers. They would all be processing the implications. Yes, they saved the world, but a lot of bystanders were hurt. I heard that in IM3, they would specifically discuss (a) bystander(s) that died. The heroes have to come to terms with that. In The Avengers, we see Thor ruminating on how the Asgardians are the ones who have caused all this trouble. That may continue to weigh on his mind.

I can make some general comments about what elizah says behind the spoiler button, before I get to specifics.

When I was thinking about her post, I realized I wasn't quite certain what "moral sacrifice" meant to people. I did a quick Google, and found a couple of different meanings. Generally, it means the sacrifice of one's morals (duh), but there are all sorts of different sacrifices and all sorts of different morals. So they can go in any of a number of different directions with this. It's rich in possibilities, and it's another reason why this movie could be really terrific (if indeed they incorporate this element). I think we'll have a hard time anticipating what such a moral sacrifice they might have in mind, though, because there are so many possibilities.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I have the impression that Odin in the books would give this order. I'm not as certain that Odin in the movies would. So I'm not certain this exact dilemma would be set up. On the other hand, it would add weight to the iconic "For Asgard!"/"For Midgard!"/"For Myself!" climax with Surtur in the Simonson arc.

So does this mean I'm going to have to add Ultimates Thor to my (ever longer) reading list?

The Iconic

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

for asgard/midgard/myself

moment HAS to happen

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Especially if the movie is setting up several character arcs that can lead for a loki redemption. as I said before, Loki's redemption should be against surtur. The movie is based off the run. In the run, that is loki's remption. It is logical for the movie too, not only cause its what happens in the arc this movie is based off of, but it just simply makes sense. This one demon comes in and loki finally redeems himself. I for one can't wait to see a throw down with Odin, Thor, and Loki vs Surtur

Originally Posted by American Maid

Well, I looked at the pages again, and it doesn't look like the word is being used as onomatopoeia (hooray! I got to use that word in conversation once in my life!) for the hammer connecting with the work, but rather the narrator's comment on the implication of Surtur's forging Twilight.

But I agree with the idea you put forward--have some cutaways several times to a big figure forging something, we hear the sound shake the theater, and we are filled with dread. Definitely start the film with one of those.

I think it definitely would be in keeping with the spirit of Simonson's presentation.

I love it.

If surtur is saved for 3, have those random dooms throughout the movie haha

[elizah72]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

Elizah, make sure you save this comment I am about write, or take a picture of it, cause it doesn't happen often. But I agree with you I like this idea lol

SAVED! You can't take it back now!

and another point, from the synopsis "Thor must embark on his most perilous and personal journey yet, one that will reunite him with Jane Foster and force him to sacrifice everything to save us all." The wording, most personal journey yet and force him to sacrifice everything to save *us* all would certainly support my theory.

[American Maid]

Originally Posted by elizah72

Something interesting I've been considering. There is a bus on the new set pics with a movie clearly titled "Moral Sacrifice" advertised on it. This is very very likely something that is a hint as to what is in store for Thor to deal with in Thor 2. I would be very very surprised if it wasn't. How do you think that "moral sacrifice" might influence the story for Thor in Thor 2?

And I dont believe it's just a random movie title, "self sacrifice" was clearly a theme for Thor in Thor 1, so seems like a story about "moral sacrifice" is a likely follow up. My theory with some recent spoilers so tags...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

at the moment the theory I have, explains why Thor is alone fighting the Dark Elves and Malekith in these new scenes filming now. If he is asked by Odin to let the Dark Elves have Midgard, because there is so much bad going on in Asgard and the other realms. With the fighting in Bourne Woods shown a while back, it seems like there may be another non elf army threatening everyone else as well, and so it's seen as "for the greater good" that Thor just stay on fighting for Asgard and to help fight off this army, and ignore for now what happens to Midgard. But this is not a "moral sacrifice" Thor can accept. He vowed to defend Midgard and wont stand by and let it be taken over or destroyed, and so he deserts Asgard willingly, and defies father again, and goes down to defend Earth against the Dark Elves anyway. This would certainly make Odin less likely to make him King if he seems he's more invested in saving and protecting another realm than staying and defending Asgard and getting the other threat back under control. but at the same time, I can't see Thor doing any less than trying to defend Earth in such a situation. So... thoughts?

Originally Posted by herolee10

That would be interesting and great to see if it did happen.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I always did think that there might be something that happens in this film that will cause Thor to leave Asgard by the end of the film and stay on Earth which would allow him to become more established as a hero on Earth to its inhabitants and that we wouldn't have to wait to see Thor appear on screen once the Avengers 2 came out.

Originally Posted by elizah72

That is another excellent point. This scenario might allow him to do that in a way that makes sense.

and not to make it about Loki (as some of you know I often do ) but....

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

wouldn't it be a major surprising twist if in the process of all of this, Thor loses favor with Odin, and Loki on the other hand stays and fights for Asgard and gains Odin's favor and approval finally?

Originally Posted by American Maid

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

I have the impression that Odin in the books would give this order. I'm not as certain that Odin in the movies would. So I'm not certain this exact dilemma would be set up. On the other hand, it would add weight to the iconic "For Asgard!"/"For Midgard!"/"For Myself!" climax with Surtur in the Simonson arc.

So does this mean I'm going to have to add Ultimates Thor to my (ever longer) reading list?

Originally Posted by jaqua99

Elizah, make sure you save this comment I am about write, or take a picture of it, cause it doesn't happen often. But I agree with you I like this idea lol

@herolee10, @Jon(Aqua) (Anyone else is welcome to weigh in, too.):

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Do you think comics-Odin would give the order elizah suggests, to abandon the defense of Midgard in favor of the defense of Asgard? Do you think movie-Odin would give such an order? (elizah: I assume you have a no opinion on comics-Odin and obviously have a position on movie-Odin )

Originally Posted by jaqua99

The Iconic

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

for asgard/midgard/myself

moment HAS to happen

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Especially if the movie is setting up several character arcs that can lead for a loki redemption. as I said before, Loki's redemption should be against surtur. The movie is based off the run. In the run, that is loki's remption. It is logical for the movie too, not only cause its what happens in the arc this movie is based off of, but it just simply makes sense. This one demon comes in and loki finally redeems himself. I for one can't wait to see a throw down with Odin, Thor, and Loki vs Surtur

I love it.

If surtur is saved for 3, have those random dooms throughout the movie haha

I agree. It could be a huge cliffhanger!

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

This exiled-Thor idea is growing me. So if Thor is outcast (um, again) and living on Earth at the end of T:TDW:
1. That's another cliffhanger--how will he reconcile with Asgard given that they surely will need him for Surtur.
2.As I said, it adds power to Thor's declaration, "For Midgard!", in the iconic moment.
3. I've always felt having Surtur show up at the end of Thor2 would make the movie overstuffed, and cheat all the fights in the rush to get through the whole story. But there were two things I hadn't figured out about the alternative: a) what would fill out the rest of Thor3 and b) what would keep knowledgeable fans curious? I mean, if it's *just* the Surtur fight, everyone who's read the Simonson arc will know exactly what to expect, and there's no suspense.

Maybe this idea addresses all of these aspects.

Ooo! <shiver>

Apologies to those avoiding spoilers for putting most of this behind spoiler buttons.

[herolee10]

Well, in my honest opinion regarding the matter:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

1. I could see Movie-Odin resorting to abandoning the Earth if he feels like he has no other choice. I remember on how in "Thor 1", Odin mentioned on how much he had to sacrifice in the past in order to maintain the overall peace, and given his ancient age, this is probably a person who has gotten used to having to make big sacrifices if push came to shove.

2. Rather than being exiled, I could see Thor choosing to leave Earth, in a similar manner that "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" had done when Thor left Asgard at the beginning on his own free will after getting into a argument with Odin. Thor's development as a character could eventually evolve through the course of the next Avengers and Thor film (Thor 3) where Thor realizes that Earth is well enough in capable of hands of defending itself and that he doesn't need to be there as much as a result.

[American Maid]

Originally Posted by elizah72

and another point, from the synopsis "Thor must embark on his most perilous and personal journey yet, one that will reunite him with Jane Foster and force him to sacrifice everything to save us all." The wording, most personal journey yet and force him to sacrifice everything to save *us* all would certainly support my theory.

True!

Originally Posted by herolee10

Well, in my honest opinion regarding the matter:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

1. I could see Movie-Odin resorting to abandoning the Earth if he feels like he has no other choice. I remember on how in "Thor 1", Odin mentioned on how much he had to sacrifice in the past in order to maintain the overall peace, and given his ancient age, this is probably a person who has gotten used to having to make big sacrifices if push came to shove.

2. Rather than being exiled, I could see Thor choosing to leave Earth, in a similar manner that "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" had done when Thor left Asgard at the beginning on his own free will after getting into a argument with Odin. Thor's development as a character could eventually evolve through the course of the next Avengers and Thor film (Thor 3) where Thor realizes that Earth is well enough in capable of hands of defending itself and that he doesn't need to be there as much as a result.

Thanks! I can see that. They would be very interesting developments. And I guess I have to add "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" to my backlog as well (sigh).

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by American Maid

@herolee10, @Jon(Aqua) (Anyone else is welcome to weigh in, too.):

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Do you think comics-Odin would give the order elizah suggests, to abandon the defense of Midgard in favor of the defense of Asgard? Do you think movie-Odin would give such an order? (elizah: I assume you have a no opinion on comics-Odin and obviously have a position on movie-Odin )

I agree. It could be a huge cliffhanger!

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

This exiled-Thor idea is growing me. So if Thor is outcast (um, again) and living on Earth at the end of T:TDW:
1. That's another cliffhanger--how will he reconcile with Asgard given that they surely will need him for Surtur.
2.As I said, it adds power to Thor's declaration, "For Midgard!", in the iconic moment.
3. I've always felt having Surtur show up at the end of Thor2 would make the movie overstuffed, and cheat all the fights in the rush to get through the whole story. But there were two things I hadn't figured out about the alternative: a) what would fill out the rest of Thor3 and b) what would keep knowledgeable fans curious? I mean, if it's *just* the Surtur fight, everyone who's read the Simonson arc will know exactly what to expect, and there's no suspense.

Maybe this idea addresses all of these aspects.

Ooo! <shiver>

Apologies to those avoiding spoilers for putting most of this behind spoiler buttons.

I think it actually makes sense to finish this movie off with Surtur. Makes a good point. We would know who is coming. Idk if I want Thor exiled again. I want to see how he has matured. He may get sent to earth, but i dont want him to loose his powers.

And yeah, Odin would definitally tell thor to abandon midgard.

Originally Posted by herolee10

Well, in my honest opinion regarding the matter:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

1. I could see Movie-Odin resorting to abandoning the Earth if he feels like he has no other choice. I remember on how in "Thor 1", Odin mentioned on how much he had to sacrifice in the past in order to maintain the overall peace, and given his ancient age, this is probably a person who has gotten used to having to make big sacrifices if push came to shove.

2. Rather than being exiled, I could see Thor choosing to leave Earth, in a similar manner that "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" had done when Thor left Asgard at the beginning on his own free will after getting into a argument with Odin. Thor's development as a character could eventually evolve through the course of the next Avengers and Thor film (Thor 3) where Thor realizes that Earth is well enough in capable of hands of defending itself and that he doesn't need to be there as much as a result.

Not sure if I agree with the EMH way. I wouldn't mind seein him on earth for a bit. But not when earth problems are his only problem. I will want more than 50% of his problems to be asgardian related

basically, i don't want him, or the ga to forget he's asgardian

get what im saying?

Originally Posted by American Maid

True!



Thanks! I can see that. They would be very interesting developments. And I guess I have to add "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" to my backlog as well (sigh).

EMH was greaet lol

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

Not sure if I agree with the EMH way. I wouldn't mind seein him on earth for a bit. But not when earth problems are his only problem. I will want more than 50% of his problems to be asgardian related

basically, i don't want him, or the ga to forget he's asgardian

get what im saying?

No doubt about it. I mean, if what I think really does happen, I could just see the ending of Thor 2 feature Thor getting adjusted towards being on Earth more often and that it's in Thor 3 where he returns back to Asgard to deal with its problems.

[elizah72]

Originally Posted by herolee10

Well, in my honest opinion regarding the matter:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

1. I could see Movie-Odin resorting to abandoning the Earth if he feels like he has no other choice. I remember on how in "Thor 1", Odin mentioned on how much he had to sacrifice in the past in order to maintain the overall peace, and given his ancient age, this is probably a person who has gotten used to having to make big sacrifices if push came to shove.

2. Rather than being exiled, I could see Thor choosing to leave Earth, in a similar manner that "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" had done when Thor left Asgard at the beginning on his own free will after getting into a argument with Odin. Thor's development as a character could eventually evolve through the course of the next Avengers and Thor film (Thor 3) where Thor realizes that Earth is well enough in capable of hands of defending itself and that he doesn't need to be there as much as a result.

Yes to both of these.

and yes as jaqua99 stated too, from what I know of comics Odin he'd likely abandon Midgard like a hot mess. Especially with so much bad going on "upstairs"

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I dont think exile, I think more choosing to "sacrifice" (as in the the synopsis) his role on Asgard to defend Earth, and while Odin isnt happy that doesn't mean he wont take him back. What Thor does in this instance is not anywhere near the same as his attack on the Jotuns, or all the bad stuff Loki does, so no reason to exile Thor. What Thor does is out of love not hate. it'll just bother Odin that he now seems more loyal to Midgard than Asgard. not a good quality to have in a king.

RE: Surtur, I'm still leaning towards seeing him in Thor3. I think we are too jam packed with stuff at the moment and he'd be better served later as the major bad in Thor 3, not just showing up at the end to possibly kill Odin. Plus I think it may be too early to kill Odin. I've always assumed there would be at least 3 Thor movies.

I'm currently mulling over the scenarios of where Thor could be living at the end of Thor 2 and why, but will get back to you in a bit about that.

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by elizah72

Yes to both of these.

and yes as jaqua99 stated too, from what I know of comics Odin he'd likely abandon Midgard like a hot mess. Especially with so much bad going on "upstairs"

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I dont think exile, I think more choosing to "sacrifice" (as in the the synopsis) his role on Asgard to defend Earth, and while Odin isnt happy that doesn't mean he wont take him back. What Thor does in this instance is not anywhere near the same as his attack on the Jotuns, or all the bad stuff Loki does, so no reason to exile Thor. What Thor does is out of love not hate. it'll just bother Odin that he now seems more loyal to Midgard than Asgard. not a good quality to have in a king.

RE: Surtur, I'm still leaning towards seeing him in Thor3. I think we are too jam packed with stuff at the moment and he'd be better served later as the major bad in Thor 3, not just showing up at the end to possibly kill Odin. Plus I think it may be too early to kill Odin. I've always assumed there would be at least 3 Thor movies.

I'm currently mulling over the scenarios of where Thor could be living at the end of Thor 2 and why, but will get back to you in a bit about that.

I prefer Surtur to appear in 3 as well. I am hoping for a post credit scene. But the snyopsis is making me think otherwise

[herolee10]

You know, on another note, I hope that whenever Thor makes a grand entrance in "TDW" that it gains the same type of reaction that he got when he first appeared on screen in "The Avengers".

The looks and reactions on Tony's, Steve's, Natasha's, and Loki's faces when they all heard and felt Thor landing on top of the Quinjet, mixed in with the iconography and music of that moment was just EPIC. IT really conveyed on what a force and presence that Thor was and that when he arrives onto the scene, it's a whole new ball game/game changer.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by herolee10

You know, on another note, I hope that whenever Thor makes a grand entrance in "TDW" that it gains the same type of reaction that he got when he first appeared on screen in "The Avengers".

The looks and reactions on Tony's, Steve's, Natasha's, and Loki's faces when they all heard and felt Thor landing on top of the Quinjet, mixed in with the iconography and music of that moment was just EPIC. IT really conveyed on what a force and presence that Thor was and that when he arrives onto the scene, it's a whole new ball game/game changer.

Very true, I hope Thor mades a similar or even better grand entrance at the beginning of Thor:TDW:

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by herolee10

You know, on another note, I hope that whenever Thor makes a grand entrance in "TDW" that it gains the same type of reaction that he got when he first appeared on screen in "The Avengers".

The looks and reactions on Tony's, Steve's, Natasha's, and Loki's faces when they all heard and felt Thor landing on top of the Quinjet, mixed in with the iconography and music of that moment was just EPIC. IT really conveyed on what a force and presence that Thor was and that when he arrives onto the scene, it's a whole new ball game/game changer.

Originally Posted by BigThor

Very true, I hope Thor mades a similar or even better grand entrance at the beginning of Thor:TDW:

that was the best entrance if the MCU.

I remember seeing it in the theater, I was like..**** yeah! out loud haha