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Old 09-28-2012, 05:28 AM   #101
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I don't know, they managed to find somebody to take that Joe Johnson contract. Plus he got that money cuz he was the only other option besides Bosh. (Who already knew where he was going before he even was a free agent.) It's good to be #2. You can end up getting way more than you're worth simply by being the best left over.
bulls need to dump boozer to the nets. that team is desperate for "star" players.

they need to get a scoring 2 like harden.

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^ I could be mistaken, but I believe football just started

Anyways, looks like flopping may actually start getting penalized now. Interesting to see how this goes. I know Manu Ginobili and James Harden must be sliding all over the place to this news.

http://www.nba.com/2012/news/09/27/n...s=iref:nbahpt2
Let's be real: It's only going to apply to certain players. There are so many problems with the NBA and honestly, I think this rule is going to further hurt the league. It gives the refs more power which I see as one of the main problems.

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bulls need to dump boozer to the nets. that team is desperate for "star" players.

they need to get a scoring 2 like harden.
If I'm the Bulls, I'd take Chris Kardashian any day over Boozer. Cheaper, rebounds better, plays defense, and is now a household name.

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The Power Rankings are back! Does this Top 5 look right to you?

1.) Miami Heat 2.) LA Lakers 3.) Oklahoma City Thunder 4.) San Antonio Spurs 5.) Los Angeles Clippers

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1 Miami 46-20

How can they not start out peering down at 29 other teams? Even if the Heat do launch slowly with Wade and Ray Ray healing, it's not just our rule about defending champions that matters. Also: Mr. James returns as undisputed King of his sport for the first time ever.

2 Los Angeles 41-25

Maybe you can't win anything in the summertime. What you can do, though, is leapfrog everyone else in Power Rankdom apart from the defending champs when you trade for Dwight and Nash without surrendering Pau, which still hasn't fully sunk in even after writing that sentence dozens of times.

3 Oklahoma City 47-19

Am I, like so many out there, overlooking the fact that the Lakers still have lots of chemistry wrinkles to work out and health questions to answer? Guilty. Thing is, OKC convenes for camp amid plenty of its own uncertainty thanks to Harden's contract situation, Perk's health and that Finals flameout.

4 San Antonio 50-16

Timmy, Manu and Tony don't get any easier to read with age. Who could have predicted the 20 games in a row they won or the four straight Ls to OKC after that brush with invincibility? Want to write the Spurs off after a summer of precious little change? Go for it. We'll pass.

5 Los Angeles 40-26

Last season of bliss before CP3 leaves Blake and Clipperland behind? Or the start of something truly special that makes L.A. feel like Manchester with two true powerhouse teams in the same neighborhood? Like it or not, Staples Center is the NBA's two-team epicenter for juicy storylines. For now.

6 Boston 39-27

Whether or not you agree with Rondo's claim that the Celts are still on the short list of five teams that can win it all, there's no denying they'll have a bench this time with JET Terry, Courtney Lee, Jeff Green and Darko arriving to succeed the departed Ray Allen and Stiemsma.

7 Philadelphia 35-31

Find myself drawn to the Sixers as much as anyone in the East chasing Miami. Time will tell if I'm assuming too much about Bynum's impact, but Philly automatically skyrockets here for now in the wake of a trade that landed an undeniable franchise center and got Dwight out of the East. 8 Indiana 42-24

Indy's splashiest acquisition was Donnie Walsh. Nothing wrong with that -- not when the Pacers also re-signed Hibbert and George Hill -- but that means Frank Vogel is clearly dependent on improvement from within to maintain their spot in the East's elite. Not so simple.

9 Denver 38-28

The Nuggets, with Iguodala, are right there with Memphis and Dallas in the West's steel-cage battle for the bottom four playoff seeds. Yet you can't shake the suspicion that, even if Iggy and JaVale McGee have big years, they'll find out first-hand what sort of monster they helped L.A. assemble.

10 Dallas 36-30

After missing out on D-Will, Dallas never dreamed it could offer only one-year deals to the rest of the free-agent pack and still come away with Mayo, Kaman, Brand and Collison. The problem? The West is suddenly super deep again. And now Dallas has to score in Free Agency 2013.

11 Memphis 41-25

Committee (of one) spies say Z-Bo looks far sharper coming into this season than he did at any point last season, but it won't mean much unless A) Z-Bo and Rudy Gay finally click, B) Gay is dealt for a better fit and C) Memphis eventually puts some shooters around Z-Bo and Marc Gasol.

12 Brooklyn 22-44

OK, OK: They didn't get Dwight. But the Nets did just enough, by trading for Joe Johnson and signing a slew of others, to convince D-Will to stay, ship a watchable team to their gleaming new Brooklyn palace and give themselves a shot at finishing higher than the Knicks. It's a start.

13 New York 36-30

Let's see. Let's see if J-Kidd, at 39, can combine with Ray Felton (and Hakeem Olajuwon's tutorials) to help Melo and Amare snap together like Legos at last and make people forget that James Dolan let J-Lin go out of what largely appears to be spite. Maximum points for ambition.

14 Minnesota 26-40

When was the last time the Wolves were this interesting? Probably 2003-04 when they went to the West finals before trading away Sam (I Am) Cassell. We're still not quite sure how soon Rubio will be back from knee surgery, but K-Love and his overhauled supporting cast are must-see regardless.

15 Chicago 50-16

If you think D-Rose was emotional at that adidas press conference chronicling his diligent rehab, wait until you see what happens around New Year's when he and Coach Thibs start planning Rose's comeback from that ACL tear ... and cautious Bulls management tells them it's best to sit tight.

16 Utah 36-30

In the early days of the Pop era, Utah was the franchise San Antonio always tried to emulate. Now the Jazz have imported Dennis Lindsey from the Spurs' front-office mafia to help figure out who on the frontline stays or goes (Jefferson? Millsap?) to make way for Favors and Kanter.

17 Golden State 23-43

New management has overhauled so much, but the expectation that something (most likely health) will go awry lives on. So let's see if the Dubs -- deepest roster since 2007's We Believe squad --with Bogut, Curry and D-Lee ready to the start the season -- can hush the doomsayers for once.

18 Atlanta 40-26

It won't show up in the standings right away, but the Hawks were one of the unquestioned offseason winners on this scorecard when Danny Ferry jettisoned Joe Johnson (and more). I'd rather start over, as Atlanta will now do, than pointlessly keep banging my head on a second-round ceiling.

19 Milwaukee 31-35

En route to the Hall of Fame, reflecting on the monster trade two of his old teams swung, Don Nelson said: "Something you just never do in the NBA, you don't trade a 6-3 player for a talented 7-footer." Put Nellie down, then, in the camp saying Milwaukee lost the Bogut-for-Monta swap.

20 New Orleans 21-45

Whispers around the league persist that ROY favorite Anthony Davis and Co. can make a run at the No. 8 spot out West. I simply prefer to echo what we so often said about Kyrie's Cavs last season: Hope has been restored here, post-CP3, far faster than anyone imagined.

21 Portland 28-38

Can Damian Lillard trump Unibrow Davis and actually win the ROY race? Hard to fathom. Will Lillard be sufficiently dazzling to buy new coach Terry Stotts some time and placate Blazermaniacs as their heroes try to rebuild around Aldridge, Batum and the flashy new PG? Quite conceivable.

22 Washington 20-46

Lottery teams aren't supposed to be very intriguing, but the Wiz do make you wonder: Are we sleeping on these guys? Depends on what they get from Wall and his new rookie sidekick Beal and what sort of impact Nene and Okafor can still make. Buy in at your own risk.

23 Toronto 23-43

There's quiet optimism north of the border that the Raps can scrap for the East's No. 8 spot. I'll just stop at saying that Valanciunas' unhappy Olympics (and likely slow NBA start) won't discourage me at all about his promise. European coaches are prone to take it slow with young guys.

24 Phoenix 33-33

Did the Suns hang onto Steve Nash too long? Definitely. Did they spin out of Nash's emotional defection to the hated Lakers about as well as they possibly could by signing All-Lefty Team aspirant Dragic and snagging Scola on an amnesty waiver claim? This desert lover hopes so.

25 Detroit 25-41

It's an if. A rather big if, actually. But the idea that draft gamble Andre Drummond can eventually form a legit front-line tandem with Greg Monroe -- with salary-cap space looming next summer --adds up to the biggest glimmer of hope Pistons fans have seen for a half-decade.

26 Houston 34-32

Better to be stockpiling trade assets and scheming from lottery land to finally pull off a blockbuster than chase a playoff spot. The Rockets, sporting J-Lin and Kev Martin and not much else these days after Orlando spurned all their Dwight proposals, are about to seriously test that theory.

27 Orlando 37-29

Jacque Vaughn's older brother played at Cal State Fullerton, so it'll come as little surprise that the committee (of one) not-so-secretly roots for the Magic's surprise rookie coach. But let's be clear here. A rough season awaits after they got none of the three best players in the Dwight deal.

28 Cleveland 21-45

The Cavs, with five or six first- and second-year players in their rotation, will ask their fans for more patience. And you know what? With Varejao coming back and Kyrie poised to serve up more thrills, they'll undoubtedly get it whether or not Waiters dazzles or stumbles early.

29 Sacramento 22-44

The uncertain futures of Tyreke, Jimmer and NBA basketball itself in Sactown command our focus heading into the season. Factor in all the attention Cousins generates, with Thomas Robinson on the scene now as well, and methinks you can expect more Kings chatter nationally than normal.

30 Charlotte 7-59

How many games will the seven-win Cats win this season? Do they dare dream of rising to the lofty rankings heights of No. 29 or (gasp) No. 28? Will His Airness ever grant an extended interview to explain his game plan? Answers forthcoming in this space every Monday during the regular season.

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Let's be real: It's only going to apply to certain players. There are so many problems with the NBA and honestly, I think this rule is going to further hurt the league. It gives the refs more power which I see as one of the main problems.
I can't agree, I think it really needs to be addressed, it's at too high of a level now. It's influencing games way too much, and your right, it's only going to apply to certain players, hopefully, the guilty ones, whether they're stars or not.

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Can't say I have a problem with it.

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I can. Clippers at 5 is a bigger joke than Travolta being straight.

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Clippers should be #1.

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1.) Miami Heat 2.) LA Lakers 3.) Oklahoma City Thunder 4.) San Antonio Spurs 5.) Los Angeles Clippers
The top 4 is definitely right although you could argue about whether OKC or Lakers should be at 2. The Clippers at 5 is where I disagree. Both the Bulls (w/ Rose) and Boston are better than them.

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Bulls will be without rose at least half the season and plus he's not going to same player he once was. With Boston I think father time is finally going to catch up to Garnett and pierce

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Clippers should be #1.
Even I don't agree to this.

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so, it looks like the nets decided to bootleg the spurs' uniforms.

i wish they would've gone with these:

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Get well fast, Dwyane.

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Wade is hurt again? Dude seems to be made of glass.

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1 Miami 46-20

How can they not start out peering down at 29 other teams? Even if the Heat do launch slowly with Wade and Ray Ray healing, it's not just our rule about defending champions that matters. Also: Mr. James returns as undisputed King of his sport for the first time ever.

2 Los Angeles 41-25

Maybe you can't win anything in the summertime. What you can do, though, is leapfrog everyone else in Power Rankdom apart from the defending champs when you trade for Dwight and Nash without surrendering Pau, which still hasn't fully sunk in even after writing that sentence dozens of times.

3 Oklahoma City 47-19

Am I, like so many out there, overlooking the fact that the Lakers still have lots of chemistry wrinkles to work out and health questions to answer? Guilty. Thing is, OKC convenes for camp amid plenty of its own uncertainty thanks to Harden's contract situation, Perk's health and that Finals flameout.

4 San Antonio 50-16

Timmy, Manu and Tony don't get any easier to read with age. Who could have predicted the 20 games in a row they won or the four straight Ls to OKC after that brush with invincibility? Want to write the Spurs off after a summer of precious little change? Go for it. We'll pass.

5 Los Angeles 40-26

Last season of bliss before CP3 leaves Blake and Clipperland behind? Or the start of something truly special that makes L.A. feel like Manchester with two true powerhouse teams in the same neighborhood? Like it or not, Staples Center is the NBA's two-team epicenter for juicy storylines. For now.

6 Boston 39-27

Whether or not you agree with Rondo's claim that the Celts are still on the short list of five teams that can win it all, there's no denying they'll have a bench this time with JET Terry, Courtney Lee, Jeff Green and Darko arriving to succeed the departed Ray Allen and Stiemsma.

7 Philadelphia 35-31

Find myself drawn to the Sixers as much as anyone in the East chasing Miami. Time will tell if I'm assuming too much about Bynum's impact, but Philly automatically skyrockets here for now in the wake of a trade that landed an undeniable franchise center and got Dwight out of the East. 8 Indiana 42-24

Indy's splashiest acquisition was Donnie Walsh. Nothing wrong with that -- not when the Pacers also re-signed Hibbert and George Hill -- but that means Frank Vogel is clearly dependent on improvement from within to maintain their spot in the East's elite. Not so simple.

9 Denver 38-28

The Nuggets, with Iguodala, are right there with Memphis and Dallas in the West's steel-cage battle for the bottom four playoff seeds. Yet you can't shake the suspicion that, even if Iggy and JaVale McGee have big years, they'll find out first-hand what sort of monster they helped L.A. assemble.

10 Dallas 36-30

After missing out on D-Will, Dallas never dreamed it could offer only one-year deals to the rest of the free-agent pack and still come away with Mayo, Kaman, Brand and Collison. The problem? The West is suddenly super deep again. And now Dallas has to score in Free Agency 2013.

11 Memphis 41-25

Committee (of one) spies say Z-Bo looks far sharper coming into this season than he did at any point last season, but it won't mean much unless A) Z-Bo and Rudy Gay finally click, B) Gay is dealt for a better fit and C) Memphis eventually puts some shooters around Z-Bo and Marc Gasol.

12 Brooklyn 22-44

OK, OK: They didn't get Dwight. But the Nets did just enough, by trading for Joe Johnson and signing a slew of others, to convince D-Will to stay, ship a watchable team to their gleaming new Brooklyn palace and give themselves a shot at finishing higher than the Knicks. It's a start.

13 New York 36-30

Let's see. Let's see if J-Kidd, at 39, can combine with Ray Felton (and Hakeem Olajuwon's tutorials) to help Melo and Amare snap together like Legos at last and make people forget that James Dolan let J-Lin go out of what largely appears to be spite. Maximum points for ambition.

14 Minnesota 26-40

When was the last time the Wolves were this interesting? Probably 2003-04 when they went to the West finals before trading away Sam (I Am) Cassell. We're still not quite sure how soon Rubio will be back from knee surgery, but K-Love and his overhauled supporting cast are must-see regardless.

15 Chicago 50-16

If you think D-Rose was emotional at that adidas press conference chronicling his diligent rehab, wait until you see what happens around New Year's when he and Coach Thibs start planning Rose's comeback from that ACL tear ... and cautious Bulls management tells them it's best to sit tight.

16 Utah 36-30

In the early days of the Pop era, Utah was the franchise San Antonio always tried to emulate. Now the Jazz have imported Dennis Lindsey from the Spurs' front-office mafia to help figure out who on the frontline stays or goes (Jefferson? Millsap?) to make way for Favors and Kanter.

17 Golden State 23-43

New management has overhauled so much, but the expectation that something (most likely health) will go awry lives on. So let's see if the Dubs -- deepest roster since 2007's We Believe squad --with Bogut, Curry and D-Lee ready to the start the season -- can hush the doomsayers for once.

18 Atlanta 40-26

It won't show up in the standings right away, but the Hawks were one of the unquestioned offseason winners on this scorecard when Danny Ferry jettisoned Joe Johnson (and more). I'd rather start over, as Atlanta will now do, than pointlessly keep banging my head on a second-round ceiling.

19 Milwaukee 31-35

En route to the Hall of Fame, reflecting on the monster trade two of his old teams swung, Don Nelson said: "Something you just never do in the NBA, you don't trade a 6-3 player for a talented 7-footer." Put Nellie down, then, in the camp saying Milwaukee lost the Bogut-for-Monta swap.

20 New Orleans 21-45

Whispers around the league persist that ROY favorite Anthony Davis and Co. can make a run at the No. 8 spot out West. I simply prefer to echo what we so often said about Kyrie's Cavs last season: Hope has been restored here, post-CP3, far faster than anyone imagined.

21 Portland 28-38

Can Damian Lillard trump Unibrow Davis and actually win the ROY race? Hard to fathom. Will Lillard be sufficiently dazzling to buy new coach Terry Stotts some time and placate Blazermaniacs as their heroes try to rebuild around Aldridge, Batum and the flashy new PG? Quite conceivable.

22 Washington 20-46

Lottery teams aren't supposed to be very intriguing, but the Wiz do make you wonder: Are we sleeping on these guys? Depends on what they get from Wall and his new rookie sidekick Beal and what sort of impact Nene and Okafor can still make. Buy in at your own risk.

23 Toronto 23-43

There's quiet optimism north of the border that the Raps can scrap for the East's No. 8 spot. I'll just stop at saying that Valanciunas' unhappy Olympics (and likely slow NBA start) won't discourage me at all about his promise. European coaches are prone to take it slow with young guys.

24 Phoenix 33-33

Did the Suns hang onto Steve Nash too long? Definitely. Did they spin out of Nash's emotional defection to the hated Lakers about as well as they possibly could by signing All-Lefty Team aspirant Dragic and snagging Scola on an amnesty waiver claim? This desert lover hopes so.

25 Detroit 25-41

It's an if. A rather big if, actually. But the idea that draft gamble Andre Drummond can eventually form a legit front-line tandem with Greg Monroe -- with salary-cap space looming next summer --adds up to the biggest glimmer of hope Pistons fans have seen for a half-decade.

26 Houston 34-32

Better to be stockpiling trade assets and scheming from lottery land to finally pull off a blockbuster than chase a playoff spot. The Rockets, sporting J-Lin and Kev Martin and not much else these days after Orlando spurned all their Dwight proposals, are about to seriously test that theory.

27 Orlando 37-29

Jacque Vaughn's older brother played at Cal State Fullerton, so it'll come as little surprise that the committee (of one) not-so-secretly roots for the Magic's surprise rookie coach. But let's be clear here. A rough season awaits after they got none of the three best players in the Dwight deal.

28 Cleveland 21-45

The Cavs, with five or six first- and second-year players in their rotation, will ask their fans for more patience. And you know what? With Varejao coming back and Kyrie poised to serve up more thrills, they'll undoubtedly get it whether or not Waiters dazzles or stumbles early.

29 Sacramento 22-44

The uncertain futures of Tyreke, Jimmer and NBA basketball itself in Sactown command our focus heading into the season. Factor in all the attention Cousins generates, with Thomas Robinson on the scene now as well, and methinks you can expect more Kings chatter nationally than normal.

30 Charlotte 7-59

How many games will the seven-win Cats win this season? Do they dare dream of rising to the lofty rankings heights of No. 29 or (gasp) No. 28? Will His Airness ever grant an extended interview to explain his game plan? Answers forthcoming in this space every Monday during the regular season.


Isn't the regular season supposed to be 82 games following the lockout season?

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Yeah but aren't those last years records?

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It's kinda disgusting of the Nets pretty much stole the Spurs unis

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Don't worry! It's going to come back and bite them after they have lousy attendance. Moving to Brooklyn was not a good idea. They will always play second fiddle to the Knicks, same as they did when they were in NJ.

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Don't worry! It's going to come back and bite them after they have lousy attendance. Moving to Brooklyn was not a good idea. They will always play second fiddle to the Knicks, same as they did when they were in NJ.
They should've taken a page out of the Angels and call themselves the New York Nets of Brooklyn. At least the name New York will get them some more money out of it than Brooklyn.

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Yeah but aren't those last years records?
LOL. How quickly I forget.

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It's kinda disgusting of the Nets pretty much stole the Spurs unis
I hate the colors, they should have stuck with red and blue.

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I find myself rooting for the Knicks this season. I'm a huge Carmelo fan, and I hope he gets his ring. The fact that he said that he's willing to sacrifice his stats for the team gave me the upmost respect for him.

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I find myself rooting for the Knicks this season. I'm a huge Carmelo fan, and I hope he gets his ring. The fact that he said that he's willing to sacrifice his stats for the team gave me the upmost respect for him.
Must not be from NYC. They kill dude daily. He's the new Obama. If it rains to hard, it's all Melo's fault. I honestly understand why people don't want to play in NYC now. It's ridiculous.

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Every action has a consequence. New York is real attractive because of the money and the glamor. But that also comes with dealing with the NY media who are ridiculous.

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