Do you accept the theory of evolution? - Part 1 - Page 29

KalMart · 02-08-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Evo

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that you and jmc are agreeing with one another.

Basically yes, but even referring to 'it' as a creator would be like a paramecium calling gravity Bob...heck, even that would be closer in scope.

KalMart · 02-08-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.

Of course, one side thinks that the other is guilty of flawed reasoning. But both sides are engaged in a rational debate inasmuch as they’re using logic and reason (and not appeals to faith, revelation or scriptural authority) as their tools of persuasion. Philosophy is not theology.

When it comes to evolution, there really shouldn't be 'two sides', though...especially if one is fueled by religion. As we've discussed before, from the outset, if you're going to refute the science of evolution, you need to refute it scientifically. Religion has nothing to say about it just as music or pottery does. To somehow think it does is an essential flaw in logic and reason. When it comes to that, it is not evolution's duty to accommodate scripture, it's religion's duty to realize that we know better now than we did in times past, and that it has to reassess its information.

Marvolo · 02-08-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KalMart

Basically yes, but even referring to 'it' as a creator would be like a paramecium calling gravity Bob...heck, even that would be closer in scope.

The Theory of Bob. I like that.

Bob's a right bastard.

Marvolo · 02-09-2013, 12:24 AM

We were discussing "God of the Gaps" the other day, and I found something that really sums up the problem with it.

The God Delusion Richard Dawkins Pages 132-133

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A message that an imaginary 'intelligent design theorist' might broadcast to a scientist:

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If you don't understand how something works, never mind: just give up and say God did it. You don't know how the nerve impulses work? Good! You don't understand how memories are laid down in the brain? Excellent! Is photo-synthesis a bafflingly complex process? Wonderful! Please don't go to work on the problem, just give up and appeal to God. Dear scientist, don't work on your mysteries. Bring us your mysteries, for we can use them. Don't squander precious ignorance by researching it away. We need those glorious gaps as a last refuge for God.

St Augtsiune said it quite openly:

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'There is another form of temptation, even more fraught with danger. This is the disease of curiosity. It is this which drives us to try and discover the secrets of nature, those secrets which are beyond our understanding, which can avail us nothing and which man should not wish to learn.'

If it wasn't for scientists researching those mysteries and secrets we would not even have an understanding of the immune system nor medicine. Thankfully we have men and women who work hard in obscuirty to understand the immune system and a many other things that were once gaps.

KalMart · 02-09-2013, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvolo

We were discussing "God of the Gaps" the other day, and I found something that really sums up the problem with it.

The God Delusion Richard Dawkins Pages 132-133

If it wasn't for scientists researching those mysteries and secrets we would not even have an understanding of the immune system nor medicine. Thankfully we have men and women who work hard in obscuirty to understand the immune system and a many other things that were once gaps.

And maintained as chasms by some.

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