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Old 09-01-2012, 12:58 PM   #401
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Clearly you don't know much about the character. This isn't a porno. It's about acting, not your opinion of her looks. Just the fact that you said you would sacrifice actimg for the girl to look hot tells us all we need to know. Her acting was spot on, and she's being universally praised by critics and fans for her performance. It's not on the level of Ledger's praise, but it's more than anyone else in the movie got. You can't please everyone, especially not someone who just wants a boner while watching the movie rather than someone who can immerse themselves into the character. It's like a girl saying Channing Tatum should batman because Bale isn't hot enough. Anne got the voice and body language down perfectly.

Stick to transformers. Bay is all about casting "hot" girls who can't act.
My whole point was that her performance was not great to me. It was average and a little boring. She wasn't interesting in this movie she was indecisive, poorly acted, too skinny, and again not hot enough. My point was if her performance was not going to be great than yes, you can find a hot actress to give an average performance instead of this movie where it's badly acted, not sexy at all. I'm not asking for a porno, but how about a real scene where she is at least sexy once and she's really seducing Batman. We get none of that. But I don't blame them because she would not be able to do it anyway. Also, their chemistry was too forced. Just didn't like this portrayal of the character and really no need for her to be in the movie.

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So, the crux of your viewpoint is that, given a choice between two mediocre actresses, one "hot" and one not, you would rather have the former?

That seems reasonable to me.

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My whole point was that her performance was not great to me. It was average and a little boring. She wasn't interesting in this movie she was indecisive, poorly acted, too skinny, and again not hot enough. My point was if her performance was not going to be great than yes, you can find a hot actress to give an average performance instead of this movie where it's badly acted, not sexy at all. I'm not asking for a porno, but how about a real scene where she is at least sexy once and she's really seducing Batman. We get none of that. But I don't blame them because she would not be able to do it anyway. Also, their chemistry was too forced. Just didn't like this portrayal of the character and really no need for her to be in the movie.
She wasn't seducing Batman, but she did seduce Bruce Wayne a little bit in their first two meetings. By the time they meet up in their costumes, he already know who she is and what she's capable of so her seducing skills probably wouldn't really work on him. Plus she had no beef with Batman really, so she had no reason to try seducing or fighting him and try to bring him down. Their chemistry wasn't forced at all. So I guess you think Megan Fox or Blake Lively should have been cast instead of a really talented, and actually very good looking actress like Anne Hathaway?

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Their chemistry definitely wasn't forced... It's was the most natural romance in any Nolan movie.

That was my biggest fear but Nolan, Christian and Anne nailed it.

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So I guess you think Megan Fox or Blake Lively should have been cast instead of a really talented, and actually very good looking actress like Anne Hathaway?
Read what he has written. He doesn't think that Hathaway is talented or good looking, so you are presenting him with a choice that is false from his perspective.

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Why wouldn't she seduce Batman? For all I've ever read in comics it's always Catwoman and Batman. Two freaks at their peaks. Catwoman at her true self Batman the same. I wanted to see that. But like I said it would have felt forced and uninspired from Anne anyway.

But yes if you are only going to get an average performance from your female lead I'd rather have her be extremely hot, than an average supposedly hot good actress like Anne, who I personally think is not that good of an actress.

My choice would have been McAdams. A very very beautiful woman with curves and charisma. At least if you say her performance was not good she's a whole lot hotter than anne.

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Read what he has written. He doesn't think that Hathaway is talented or good looking, so you are presenting him with a choice that is false from his perspective.
No i'm not. Don't tell me to read his post, because I did. I get that he doesn't think Hathaway is talented, he's entitled to his opinion, I'm just wondering if he actually thinks actresses like Blake Lively or Megan Fox should have been cast just because they're hot, because they wouldn't fit a Nolan movie at all and would feel out of place. And they are very hot for sure, but the only impressive performance Blake has given was in The Town, and many of us can agree that Megan can't act at all. I can understand if you prefer like Charlize Theron, Angelinia Jolie, or even Eva Green (who was a candidate) because they're all not only very hot, they're also capable actresses especially Charlize. Sorry, Christopher Nolan prefers acting talent over looks, unlike Michael Bay or any other lousy director. And yes I understand fine you don't think she's a good actress or hot, but I think she's grown into being a great actress, and is a very attractive woman (even with that short hair she has now haha). And I think that will be proven even more with Les Miserables. This will probably really be her breakout year with all the praise she's getting for Dark Knight Rises, and than a very possible Oscar contention performance in Les Miserables. She already has one nomination in her career.

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You know, there's people out there that actually believe Ledger's performance was the most overrated performance of the 21st century, and the writing surrounding The Joker was subpar.

*shrugs*

There'll always be haters. So what's the point in arguing with someone who harbored preconceived notions about Hathaway? Anne's performance was universally praised (a good portion of even the negative reviews commended Hathaway on her hard work).

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For the record I prefer acting over looks. But if it's going to be an average performance no matter what. I'll take the one who looks better. Michael bay is terrible so is Fox. So, she does not qualify as average actress.

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You know, there's people out there that actually believe Ledger's performance was the most overrated performance of the 21st century, and the writing surrounding The Joker was subpar.

*shrugs*

There'll always be haters. So what's the point in arguing with someone who harbored preconceived notions about Hathaway? Anne's performance was universally praised (a good portion of even the negative reviews commended Hathaway on her hard work).
Why does one have to be a hater? If I didn't like the performance I'm just supposed to follow like sheep or give my honest thoughts. I didn't hate the performance it was just average. A hater is someone who just hates it for no reason. I said I thought it was boring, not sexy, not needed at all. If Catwoman the story would have ended the same way. Batman would have met up with Bane eventually lost. 5 months still take place. The only difference is without Catwoman, Foley would have gunned down Bane. Catwoman was only in there for a forced boring love story.

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Both Hathaway and McAdams are extremely pretty (and equally not-curvy without some help - Hathaway was definitely cinched in for Selina) so it's all about your personal preference.

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My whole point was that her performance was not great to me. It was average and a little boring. She wasn't interesting in this movie she was indecisive, poorly acted, too skinny, and again not hot enough. My point was if her performance was not going to be great than yes, you can find a hot actress to give an average performance instead of this movie where it's badly acted, not sexy at all. I'm not asking for a porno, but how about a real scene where she is at least sexy once and she's really seducing Batman. We get none of that. But I don't blame them because she would not be able to do it anyway. Also, their chemistry was too forced. Just didn't like this portrayal of the character and really no need for her to be in the movie.
I really don't get where you're coming from with this. If you didn't like this portrayal of the character then you're not a fan of the character.

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So I guess you think Megan Fox or Blake Lively should have been cast instead of a really talented, and actually very good looking actress like Anne Hathaway?
The funny part about this is that I don't think either of those two are better looking than Anne.

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If Catwoman the story would have ended the same way. Batman would have met up with Bane eventually lost. 5 months still take place. The only difference is without Catwoman, Foley would have gunned down Bane. Catwoman was only in there for a forced boring love story.
That's totally not true.


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Their chemistry definitely wasn't forced... It's was the most natural romance in any Nolan movie.

That was my biggest fear but Nolan, Christian and Anne nailed it.
Yeah it really did feel natural and wasn't forced at all. The bantering, flirting, sexual tension, and all of that really made me believe they can easily be an actual couple so that's why I definitely bought the ending. The way they were bickering made it seem like an old married couple, and than some of the flirting between them made them seem like a young couple.

And yeah the Nolans, and of course, Christian and Anne nailed the chemistry and relationship. I never really thought Anne Hathaway and Christian Bale would make not only great chemistry, but a believable romantic relationship. It was sad we didn't get even more scenes between them. It felt like exactly the way the relationship between Bruce/Batman, and Selina/Catwoman should be. I enjoyed the chemistry between Keaton, and Pfeiffer, but at times I felt their story almost got a bit over the top, and not a lot of fun like the one in Rises. This was definitely my favorite relationship, well romantically really, in the trilogy. And I love that Selina isn't a typical love interest. She actually makes a good ally to the main hero in the fighting rather than being really hopeless, lol, and I'm sure this is something that attracts Bruce to Selina.

Their chemistry was so much fun, and real, that it's unfortunate we didn't ever see them on screen as an actual couple haha. Well in the cafe scene we did, but they didn't talk, but at least they definitely looked happy and she was wearing the pearls she once stole.

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Why does one have to be a hater? If I didn't like the performance I'm just supposed to follow like sheep or give my honest thoughts. I didn't hate the performance it was just average. A hater is someone who just hates it for no reason. I said I thought it was boring, not sexy, not needed at all. If Catwoman the story would have ended the same way. Batman would have met up with Bane eventually lost. 5 months still take place. The only difference is without Catwoman, Foley would have gunned down Bane. Catwoman was only in there for a forced boring love story.
Well, your criticism is rather difficult to take into account considering you don't view Hathaway as a talented actress.

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Ok, I'm just going off the movies I've seen Hathaway play in.
Dark Knight Rises, Get Smart, Alice In WOnderland, and Valentines Day.

I don't think she can act my opinion.

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Why does one have to be a hater? If I didn't like the performance I'm just supposed to follow like sheep or give my honest thoughts. I didn't hate the performance it was just average. A hater is someone who just hates it for no reason. I said I thought it was boring, not sexy, not needed at all. If Catwoman the story would have ended the same way. Batman would have met up with Bane eventually lost. 5 months still take place. The only difference is without Catwoman, Foley would have gunned down Bane. Catwoman was only in there for a forced boring love story.
What in the world makes you think Foley would have gunned down Bane? That would have definitely made Bane's death scene worst. Take the most hothead character that no one seems to like, and isn't very bad-ass in the slightest kill a total bad-ass like Bane? Catwoman was added to have a strong female character, someone that took away some of the soberness from Bruce Wayne, an antagonist/ally to Bruce Wayne/Batman, and basically a complicated love interest for Bruce Wayne/Batman like Catwoman always is. Want to see a boring love story between Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle, watch Batman Returns. Other than the twist at the end, she definitely added more to the story than Miranda Tate to be honest.

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Ok, I'm just going off the movies I've seen Hathaway play in.
Dark Knight Rises, Get Smart, Alice In WOnderland, and Valentines Day.

I don't think she can act my opinion.
Valentine's Day is a HORRIBLE example. It's a mediocre movie at best, and really any of the good actors in the movie were pretty much at their low points. Alice in Wonderland isn't a great example, though she did give a decent performance, she didn't have much screen time and it's not the best movie ever LMAO. Johnny Depp stole the show in that movie. Get Smart was a very entertaining action comedy, and she gave a good performance that was sexy and a lot of fun. She's actually very believable in her action scenes as proved in Rises. I didn't really buy Carrell and Hathaway as a romantic couple like her and Bale, but they did have good bantering. You should probably see Rachel Getting Married and Devil Wears Prada. Or maybe wait until Les Miserables comes out. Anne actually plays the tough ***** role well (Get Smart, The Dark Knight Rises), and looks sexy doing it. She can actually kick my ass any day haha.

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Ok, I'm just going off the movies I've seen Hathaway play in.
Dark Knight Rises, Get Smart, Alice In WOnderland, and Valentines Day.

I don't think she can act my opinion.
Rachel Getting Married, Love and Other Drugs, The Dark Knight Rises, Becoming Jane and Brokeback Mountain say otherwise...

On top of which, Anne is already predicted in being nominated for another Oscar in Les Misérables.

So, yeah, no.

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Rachel Getting Married, Love and Other Drugs, The Dark Knight Rises, Becoming Jane and Brokeback Mountain say otherwise...

On top of which, Anne is already predicted in being nominated for another Oscar in Les Misérables.

So, yeah, no.
Forgot about Love and Other Drugs, that was a really good performance as well. And no not just because she should her body half of the movie lol.

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I'm just wondering if he actually thinks actresses like Blake Lively or Megan Fox should have been cast just because they're hot, because they wouldn't fit a Nolan movie at all and would feel out of place.
Okay, but the only person who has mentioned Fox or Lively is you. "the last son" has mentioned Rachel McAdams as his preference for the part. She's no mean actress, and he thinks she's more attractive than Hathaway.

That isn't an unreasonable opinion to have, and the way that he is being swarmed is just childish.

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Both Hathaway and McAdams are extremely pretty (and equally not-curvy without some help - Hathaway was definitely cinched in for Selina) so it's all about your personal preference.
Yes, it is. I don't know how people are able to become so upset over someone expressing indifference to an actress.

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The funny part about this is that I don't think either of those two are better looking than Anne..
Again, "the last son" didn't mention any of those actresses, but it is obvious that he has the right to find whoever he likes attractive.

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You certainly won't hear me argue with that.

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I just watched the trailer to Les Miserables and it looked good. We shall see.

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You mean someone is getting swarmed for sharing an opinion on the Hype?

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My whole point was that her performance was not great to me. It was average and a little boring. She wasn't interesting in this movie she was indecisive, poorly acted, too skinny, and again not hot enough. My point was if her performance was not going to be great than yes, you can find a hot actress to give an average performance instead of this movie where it's badly acted, not sexy at all. I'm not asking for a porno, but how about a real scene where she is at least sexy once and she's really seducing Batman. We get none of that. But I don't blame them because she would not be able to do it anyway. Also, their chemistry was too forced. Just didn't like this portrayal of the character and really no need for her to be in the movie.
Poorly acted? Are you kidding? She did the voice, the walk, the strut. Everything was perfectly done. Just because you didn't get the version of the character you wanted, doesn't it was poor acting. That's like saying Ledger's joker was poor acting because he didn't use laughing gas.

And why would this version of Selina seduce batman? This version was based on The Cat, the original Bob Kane stuff. She's supposed to be someone who doesn't let anyone get close to her. She only uses men (Like Gilly). Bruce is the first guy she lets in past the barriers that she puts up around herself.

You completely missed the point.

No need for her to be in the movie? She's the one who gives Bruce his spark after 8 years. She's the girl who Bruce ends up with. Without her, the cafe ending loses all its symbolism. Who would Bruce give the pearls to? John Blake?


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Ok, I'm just going off the movies I've seen Hathaway play in.
Dark Knight Rises, Get Smart, Alice In WOnderland, and Valentines Day.

I don't think she can act my opinion.
I just love it when someone on the internet says that an oscar nominated actor or actress who is praised by critics and peers in the film industry "can't act". It's adorable.

Your entire logic is based around you not getting the catwoman you wanted. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with Anne. You just didn't like how the character was written. Another actress being in the role wouldn't have changed how the scenes worked. It would have still been the same dialogue, etc.

And Bale rarely has any chemistry with his female leads, but his chemistry with Hathaway was applauded by fans and critics.

Rachel Mcadams? The go-to actress for cheesy romance films with Eric Bana and Channing Tatum? The only time i liked her in a role was Red Eye. Get back to me when she pulls off a performance like Hathaway did in Rachel Getting married. Keira Knightley is the only other actress I can imagine in the catwoman role.


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