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And that's what it boils down to. Thor, Cap and Ironman 2 could've been better but they were no were near the flops that Lionsgate and Fox have made.
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It had flashes of brilliance. Get a good screenwriter and that movie would have been a big cult hit.
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So....benefit of the doubt and all that. If the Russos screw up the Cap movie, I'll fanboyrage then.
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The Mandalore
Join Date: Jun 2007
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So if Gunn gets the job, I think it's safe to assume that Whedon will have a heavy influence on this movie. Perhaps even "ghost directing" it?
I'm totally fine with that.
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Joss will probably be the most involved with this one more than any other Phase 2 film seeing a how its release is the closest to Avengers 2 and the involvement of Thanos.
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LOL Spider-Vader you mean like Jon Favreau is doing on Iron Man 3.
Just FYI, I'm half-kidding about that but man at Comic-Con Shane Black kept referencing how awesome it was to have Favreau on board and it almost felt like he was trying to tell me something. I was like, "OK Shane I get it. You are happy to have Favreau on board to work on the movie even though you are the director now." Then my gears started thinking and turning, "Is this Shane Black's weird way of saying how awkward this is and Jon Favreau is practically taking the movie away from him?" And as ridiculous as that sounds . . . crazier things have happened in this business.
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Compare that to the times when we've had seasoned directors take the reins of superhero films. Interestingly enough, these supposed "safe hands" often end up creating something more generic than anything else. Just look at Bryan Singer's take on Superman. Fans at the time were fairly enthusiastic; the guy directed two X-Men pictures, so how could he fail at re-inventing the last son of Krypton? But as it turned out, his "vision" for Superman was notoriously flawed. The same could be said for Martin Campbell on Green Lantern: proven action director, everything seemed to be in place - but in the end, Green Lantern was one of the most generic superhero movies ever made, totally failed to live up to the promise of its concept and was a box office bomb. So it seems that the strategy of hiring unlikely but talented directors with their own style and vision has created better films than the so-called "safe" choices. That makes me wonder what will happen with Man of Steel. Superman is my absolute favourite superhero, and after the debacle of SR, I'm desperate to see him re-take the mantle of the definitive cinematic superhero. Having directed Watchmen, Snyder on the surface seems like a safe choice, the trailer was intriguing, and with a script by David Goyer you'd think everything is set to create movie magic. But as we've seen in the past, the apparent "safe" choice often results in nothing but mediocrity.
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Marc Webb hit it out of the park? I heard that movie sucked.
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You heard wrong.
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I was not a fan. But this isn't the thread to get into all that
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Yeah, that's true.
So... how 'bout those Guardians?
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Hmm, yeah, I didn't intend to convey that meaning and describe Webb as "hitting it out of the park", but I guess that's what I did. Well, he certainly didn't fail as much as Singer did with SR or, in particular, Martin Campbell with GL. The Amazing Spider-Man was a serviceable superhero movie - nothing more, nothing less. But it certainly wasn't a flop like GL.
I'm actually really excited about Guardians of the Galaxy. Honestly, I had never even hear of them before Marvel announced they were making the movie. But now I'm all enthusiastic, especially after hearing the comments of fans knowledgeable about the comics. It seems so offbeat. The material will either be a big hit or a big flop - Rocket Raccoon in particular seems like a challenge. An animated walking, talking (and badass) raccoon? But Marvel Studios hasn't made a bad movie yet. And I think this movie will do a good job of expanding the "cosmic" aspect of the MCU, to the point where audiences will accept a character like Rocket Raccoon alongside Cap, Thor, Iron Man and all the rest.
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I think ASM will have a legacy like 'The Incredible Hulk's. Adored by a very small group of fanboys on the internet who swear it's the second coming of Jesus, ignored by everyone else.
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The Mandalore
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ASM is easily the best Spider-Man movie. It's the only one that gets Spider-Man's character right. Spider-Man is a wiseass & a genius, not a baby dork like Rami's "Spider-Man". & I agree with JB, the original trilogy is just too cheesy, it has not aged well. & those films really don't get the characters right. ASM felt like I was seeing most of the characters come to life (Dr Connors/Lizard was the only iffy interpretation), Rami films like they were the characters in name only.
But yeah, when is Marvel going to C/D if Gunn is directing?
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^Couldnt disagree more about the Spidey films to be honest, the first 2 Raimi films were a lot better than ASM in my eyes, I found ASM to be very dissapointing, everything just felt dis-connected, especially Uncle Ben's death which is possibly the most important part.
Raimi's movie/s got you so involved in that aspect and the emotion of it, you couldnt help but get invested in it all. And yeah, I know GOTG is out late summer 2014 but I would imagine they need to confirm a director soon.
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I agree AVEITWITHJAMON. It just didn't have that energy.
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^Definately, I enjoyed it, but it wasnt a patch on the first Raimi movies, I just felt de-tached from the whole thing. Garfield was good though, the budget was ridiculous though at the same time.
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Can we all agree that Andrew Garfield is perfect for Peter Parker though? They definitely knew how to cast this time around.
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Oh yeah definetly. Garfield was amazing. No pun intended.
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So has Gunn been confirmed yet?
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Nope.
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He is okay but nothing extraordinary.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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He's friends with Gunn and respects him, so he's not going to pull any crap like that and take over the set from him (that is if Gunn does do the movie). The most involvement Whedon will probably have will be punching up the script.
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He was good, but I felt the characterization was pretty off. They basically had him come off as a too cool, more brooding bad boy then put upon geek.
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