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Old 10-05-2013, 01:29 PM   #451
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The rules revolving around Hulk have changed since PH and WWH. He is now capable of doing anything given the right scenario. They broke him.

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I know exactly what jaqua99 is talking about. It is something that has been troubling me about the Avatar Korra series. Characters abilities changing do to the plot as opposed to being consistent and writing a plot true to the character and their abilities.

I know a lot don't care, but it is why stuff like Jane putting Loki annoys me. It makes no sense in context.
A kid could make an adult's head move with a punch if it's unexpected, and that's pretty much the same thing. There's not really anything in the MCU that indicates that Asgardians have a lot more mass than humans so it would have to do with the neck muscles actively resisting. Loki doesn't look like the punch hurt at all, it just surprised him.

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A kid could make an adult's head move with a punch if it's unexpected, and that's pretty much the same thing. There's not really anything in the MCU that indicates that Asgardians have a lot more mass than humans so it would have to do with the neck muscles actively resisting. Loki doesn't look like the punch hurt at all, it just surprised him.
Watch the Avengers. Loki is unmoved by gunfire. No human, including Cap, has shown able to move them, much less hurt them.

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Watch the Avengers. Loki is unmoved by gunfire. No human, including Cap, has shown able to move them, much less hurt them.
Actually in Loki's opening scene when he was shot in the face by a hand gun his head turned.

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Eh, lets not go exaggerating. The Hulk is not some cosmic being. He's really strong, yes, but there are stronger. And people certainly have transformed and screwed around with him before. Magneto and IIRC the Presence have both taken him out by screwing with his gamma ray power supply, the Silver Surfer has depowered or outright cured him twice, I'm pretty sure a couple people have transmuted him into various things. . . he doesn't really have any particular defense against exotic attacks other than "hope I can heal from this."

Well, that, and the generic defense of "I am a name character." But that isn't a power of the character, its just plot protection and, often, bad writing.
Clearly, people are going overboard with Hulk's strength level they act as if he's freaking Galactus.

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It is Marvel who have done that to the Hulk. Just read the comics.

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It is Marvel who have done that to the Hulk. Just read the comics.
Hulk isn't any superior to any herald level guy at all, like the surfer or thor.

Hulk can't do anything. After he was "broke", he fought Zeus, physically, and got destroyed. Hard.

Realistically, there are a number of characters more than capable of putting down Hulk for the count, physically, before he gets to a level where he can even challenge them.

Three off the top of my head, are Kurse, Mangog (especially him), and Thanos.

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From the supposed spoilers in the Junior Novel, Kurse is going to be one tough cookie...

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Hulk isn't any superior to any herald level guy at all, like the surfer or thor.

Hulk can't do anything. After he was "broke", he fought Zeus, physically, and got destroyed. Hard.

Realistically, there are a number of characters more than capable of putting down Hulk for the count, physically, before he gets to a level where he can even challenge them.

Three off the top of my head, are Kurse, Mangog (especially him), and Thanos.
Hulk has defeated Surfer and Gladiator (Herald Level guys) preWWH. I agree he's not Skyfather level right off the bat but physically he's above Herald level. The only way Sliver Surfer can beat him if he energy drain the gamma radiation from Hulk before he gets started and his strength multipliers start kicking in.


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Thor's defeated Surfer and Gladiator as well, several times might I add.

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Thor's defeated Surfer and Gladiator as well, several times might I add.
I know. It's just that when jaqua99 talks about the Hulk some times, it’s like he tries to make him come off as a nobody weakling. NO offence jaqua99.

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From the supposed spoilers in the Junior Novel, Kurse is going to be one tough cookie...
What was said that makes him sound tough?

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What was said that makes him sound tough?
Thor's lightning bounces off him.

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Thor's lightning bounces off him.
Wow, I can't wait to see how that looks on film.

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Wow, I can't wait to see how that looks on film.
The strange thing is, we don't know if it is before or after his transformation.

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From the supposed spoilers in the Junior Novel, Kurse is going to be one tough cookie...
Young readers has a novel out at Walmart?

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Wow, I can't wait to see how that looks on film.
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The strange thing is, we don't know if it is before or after his transformation.
Personally I'd like for it to be done before, so we can get a little bit of "Algrim" action before he's Kurse.

He could deflect it with some sort of Dark Elf melee weapon, that's the only way I see Algrim doing that.

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Interesting before and after looks regarding our two primary Dark Elves in the film...




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Pics are greatly appreciated, thank you

I wonder what sets off Kurse's transformation in the movie?

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I wonder if he's transformed into Kurse by someone, in the comics it was the Beyond.

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Hulk has defeated Surfer and Gladiator (Herald Level guys) preWWH. I agree he's not Skyfather level right off the bat but physically he's above Herald level. The only way Sliver Surfer can beat him if he energy drain the gamma radiation from Hulk before he gets started and his strength multipliers start kicking in.


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No, but there are characters who physically outclass him.

Not skyfather right off that bat?? Are you suggesting that Hulk can be near skyfather level in power?

The only time Hulk beat the Surfer was when the surfer was cut off from his power cosmic. Thor has beaten down the Surfer before. I'm not saying Hulk is some nobody weakling, he's one of the strongest, when it comes to non amped brute strength. Anything above herald level really has a lot of amps. Are you suggesting Hulk is a trans leveler? He finally just busted a planet. Which is a standard casual herald level feat. Hulk is one of the strongest, I only think there are three characters who physically out class him in the strength department, without amps. Kurse, Thanos, and Mangog.

I'm sorry, but Hulk is not above Herald. Not by a long shot. At his best, he's a mid-high herald. I know you are a fan of Hulk, but when you start a post with something like "he doesn't start of as skyfather right off the bat", and heavily imply he is above herald, I find it hard to take your arguments seriously.

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Kurse looks REALLY cool. I think that Malekith will just transform him, or possibly Surtur.

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Has this been posted? I don't keep up up-to-date with this forum at all, so it could be months old, but I haven't personally seen it before.



If it's old, apologies.

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I don't remember it, and I think it is pretty incredible. Up close, he looks so good. Thank you for posting it.

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Has this been posted? I don't keep up up-to-date with this forum at all, so it could be months old, but I haven't personally seen it before.



If it's old, apologies.
It's definitely new, I just posted it in the news and speculation thread I didn't know you beat me to it.

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