When and how should Gwen Stacy die? - Part 1

[Spideyfan93]

I agree with everyone that says if the Gwen Stacy Death Arc occurs at all, let it be in the end of ASM2.

I've stated my arguments quite a few times in the last couple years but I feel more emotion would be evoked with a climatic death in the final act. And I also like the idea of Peter and Gwen hitting an emotionally positive peak right before she bites the dust.
Like, they're obviously going to have major relationship problems in ASM2...Captain Stacy's death and promise being the focal point. So to have them reconcile, forgive, and bond to the strongest they've ever been...and then have her death occur...that's the way to go.

Personally, that is way I'd go about the act if I was the director. To me, it seems to be the best way to hit heartstrings and create the biggest emotional impact story wise.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Spideyfan93

I agree with everyone that says if the Gwen Stacy Death Arc occurs at all, let it be in the end of ASM2.

I've stated my arguments quite a few times in the last couple years but I feel more emotion would be evoked with a climatic death in the final act. And I also like the idea of Peter and Gwen hitting an emotionally positive peak right before she bites the dust.
Like, they're obviously going to have major relationship problems in ASM2...Captain Stacy's death and promise being the focal point. So to have them reconcile, forgive, and bond to the strongest they've ever been...and then have her death occur...that's the way to go.

Personally, that is way I'd go about the act if I was the director. To me, it seems to be the best way to hit heartstrings and create the biggest emotional impact story wise.

agrees completely

[TheForgotten]

I think end of movie 2 works the best. It shoudn't be about, "oh how can we shock the audience?", more so "how can we space the story out on screen".

With Peter going to have Gwen, then have her die, to Peter trying to regroup after that, then to finally hint at him going to be with MJ...that's WAY too much for one film, especially the final one.

[Eros]

Originally Posted by Spideyfan93

I agree with everyone that says if the Gwen Stacy Death Arc occurs at all, let it be in the end of ASM2.

I've stated my arguments quite a few times in the last couple years but I feel more emotion would be evoked with a climatic death in the final act. And I also like the idea of Peter and Gwen hitting an emotionally positive peak right before she bites the dust.
Like, they're obviously going to have major relationship problems in ASM2...Captain Stacy's death and promise being the focal point. So to have them reconcile, forgive, and bond to the strongest they've ever been...and then have her death occur...that's the way to go.

Personally, that is way I'd go about the act if I was the director. To me, it seems to be the best way to hit heartstrings and create the biggest emotional impact story wise.

While I agree, I dunno why any spider-man fan would be sad? its not an original idea, Gwen dieing, any superheroes loved one dieing wouldn't cause much surprise you know. It would feel oddly cliche if she died after a "climatic battle".

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by TheForgotten

I think end of movie 2 works the best. It shoudn't be about, "oh how can we shock the audience?", more so "how can we space the story out on screen".

With Peter going to have Gwen, then have her die, to Peter trying to regroup after that, then to finally hint at him going to be with MJ...that's WAY too much for one film, especially the final one.

yeah i think more people are all about "shocking" the audience than actually making the audience "feel" anything. The EMOTION is far more important than shock value.

Now.. if you watched the three films back to back and they were seamlessly intertwined as if one big movie.. than yeah.. maybe her death at the beginning of spidey 3 would feel emotional.. but that's not most people, and that's not how you create a good stand alone film

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Eros

While I agree, I dunno why any spider-man fan would be sad? its not an original idea, Gwen dieing, any superheroes loved one dieing wouldn't cause much surprise you know. It would feel oddly cliche if she died after a "climatic battle".

i know plenty of fans who are sad by even the idea of emma stones death.... some don't even want it to happen at all

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Eros

While I agree, I dunno why any spider-man fan would be sad? its not an original idea, Gwen dieing, any superheroes loved one dieing wouldn't cause much surprise you know. It would feel oddly cliche if she died after a "climatic battle".

The Death of Gwen Stacy is one of the biggest events in comic book history. Once again, I feel like people complain whether a CBM is faithful to the comics or if it takes its own liberties.

[Eros]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

The Death of Gwen Stacy is one of the biggest events in comic book history. Once again, I feel like people complain whether a CBM is faithful to the comics or if it takes its own liberties.

Every single comic book movie take extensive liberties, the Nolan Batman films took them like drugs for example. Yet they were great to amazing stories that people really enjoyed.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

The Death of Gwen Stacy is one of the biggest events in comic book history. Once again, I feel like people complain whether a CBM is faithful to the comics or if it takes its own liberties.

some people just like to complain... people complain when a superhero film takes too many liberties.. than complain when they do something that's in the book.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Eros

Every single comic book movie take extensive liberties, the Nolan Batman films took them like drugs for example. Yet they were great to amazing stories that people really enjoyed.

Okay, but that doesn't explain why they shouldn't have the Death of Gwen Stacy in this trilogy. If anything, the filmmakers should be obligated to head into that direction. It would be such a wasted opportunity if they didn't.

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

some people just like to complain... people complain when a superhero film takes too many liberties.. than complain when they do something that's in the book.

Yeah. Get's annoying after a while. lol

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Eros

Every single comic book movie take extensive liberties, the Nolan Batman films took them like drugs for example. Yet they were great to amazing stories that people really enjoyed.

sometimes it works... the liberties with Raj worked VERY well... and Joker and Harvey really didn't differ to slightly...

that is why they're the best 2 films imo...

I think DKR went a little overboard with the liberties.. .and while made an "enjoyable film" it didn't really sit well with me as a "great batman film"

it's the same with the X-men movies to me.. the films are really enjoyable.. but at the same time they differ SO far from the books that they don't always "feel" like the x-men we know and love.

I think you need a nice mix of things.. and I think this is something Marvel Studios has realized and respected quite well... they tell great stories while sticking to the heart of the books. And successfully deliver a 1, 2 punch