When and how should Gwen Stacy die? - Part 1

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

so we agree to disagree right where it always ends up anyway... yay! and i hated TDKR.. so explains alot to both our sides...

Sorry. I don't do that. And I walked out of TDKR teary eyed, and with a smile on my face. But I have a soul so...

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by pr0xyt0xin

hell yea dude! I'd love to be in charge of Gwen's death. I dont mean to brag but, I think i could make it quite a gut-wrenching moment.

I think you mean cliched and uncreatively.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

Sorry. I don't do that. And I walked out of TDKR teary eyed, and with a smile on my face. But I have a soul so...

i have a soul... a severely dissapointed one. i mean really... Catwoman used a heel and a gun as her weapons of choice in this film... CATwoman...

this felt like the X-men films to me.. which is really sad because the previous were great

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

I think you mean cliched and uncreatively.

yup... total cliche... even though it rarely happens in superhero films... and is one of the most acclaimed stories, as well as one of the most beloved. Yup.. totalllllly cliche

[spideyboy_1111]

last i checked, this thread was called "WHEN and HOW gwen should die" not... "SHOULD GWEN DIE?"


.... so let people discuss it. you don't have to come in and denounce it every other day...

[Spider-Aziz]

I don't want Gwen to die, the girlfriend of the hero dying is one of the most meh cliches these days, so I'm definitely looking forward to it NOT happening

[pr0xyt0xin]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

I think you mean cliched and uncreatively.

no actually, I meant gut-wrenching just like I said. You have no idea how I would write it, given the opportunity. So don't try to assume that you do.

[LegendAssemble]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

I think you mean cliched and uncreatively.

How is that uncreative? Your idea sounds like Spider-Man 3.2.

[LegendAssemble]

Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

I don't want Gwen to die, the girlfriend of the hero dying is one of the most meh cliches these days, so I'm definitely looking forward to it NOT happening

How is that cliched? What movie has that happened in besides the Dark Knight? It happens a lot in comics but this is not a cliche by any means.

[Web face]

Wait so one of the most creative stories in Spider-Man is uncreative and cliched? So what exactly is the creative alternative? Peter and Gwen have their ups and downs but end up together and live happily ever after?

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Web face

Wait so one of the most creative stories in Spider-Man is uncreative and cliched? So what exactly is the creative alternative? Peter and Gwen have their ups and downs but end up together and live happily ever after?

superhero movies might as well stop.. all stories have been done before... O wait... Movies should just stop too... nothing's original or new anymore

[Web face]

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

superhero movies might as well stop.. all stories have been done before... O wait... Movies should just stop too... nothing's original or new anymore

Lol true, but killing Gwen is definitely not the most cliched or uncreative choice by any means.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Web face

Lol true, but killing Gwen is definitely not the most cliched or uncreative choice by any means.

agrees

[Human Torch]

Heaven forbid they should actually take one of the most famous and memorable stories in all of comicdom and have it accurately depicted onscreen.

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

i have a soul... a severely dissapointed one. i mean really... Catwoman used a heel and a gun as her weapons of choice in this film... CATwoman...

this felt like the X-men films to me.. which is really sad because the previous were great

And what the hell is she supposed to use? SHE'S A ****ING CATBURGLAR! Anything else would just be stupid. Seriously, it's just fanboy whining, and holds no merit.

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

yup... total cliche... even though it rarely happens in superhero films... and is one of the most acclaimed stories, as well as one of the most beloved. Yup.. totalllllly cliche

Beloved by who? Obsessive Spider-Man comic book fanboys? Cause I gotta tell ya noone else, outside of those you've forced this idea upon of course, gives two ****s about this. Cliche: see: Stereotype. Stereotype: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; esp : a standardized mental picture held in common by members of a group and representing an over-simplified opinion, effective attitude, or uncritical judgement (as of a person, a race, an issue, or an event). You were saying?

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

And what the hell is she supposed to use? SHE'S A ****ING CATBURGLAR! Anything else would just be stupid. Seriously, it's just fanboy whining, and holds no merit.

.... I guess her entire existence in the comics is stupid than....

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

Beloved by who? Obsessive Spider-Man comic book fanboys? Cause I gotta tell ya noone else, outside of those you've forced this idea upon of course, gives two ****s about this. Cliche: see: Stereotype. Stereotype: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; esp : a standardized mental picture held in common by members of a group and representing an over-simplified opinion, effective attitude, or uncritical judgement (as of a person, a race, an issue, or an event). You were saying?

? Stop describing yourself man.....

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

last i checked, this thread was called "WHEN and HOW gwen should die" not... "SHOULD GWEN DIE?"


.... so let people discuss it. you don't have to come in and denounce it every other day...

Yes I do. And with the disappointingly few amount of voices against this, I have to make myself heard. And it's been like three days.

[spideyboy_1111]

Except the more you voice.... The less anyone listens.

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by LegendAssemble

How is that uncreative? Your idea sounds like Spider-Man 3.2.

That's odd, considering I've yet to express an idea for what should happen. I've expressed alternative concepts and scenarios, quite a few actually, but haven't commited to a single one of them to even remotely be considered as a proposed "idea" of any sort. But, ya see, that's what's so great about my viewpoint. I'm not creatively limited by the restrictions of the comic books. I see the many, beautiful, possibilities. You, only see one. This is very well demonstrated by you thinking that just because something has similarities to a previous concept, like, for instance, a villain helping a hero, that it's automatically viewed as nothing more than a copy, ignoring the complete difference in both situation and characters, which is quite close-minded, and kinda prejudice. You're in the box, friend. And yes, uncreative, as in it's been done before. There's a whole comic about it. You should read it. It's not bad.

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

Heaven forbid they should actually take one of the most famous and memorable stories in all of comicdom and have it accurately depicted onscreen.

If you respected the source material you'd understand that what made the story a classic was that it was new, shocking, a first, and to dilute it into anything less than that by forcing it upon the films is a disgusting disservice to the integrity of the story. And it's hardly famous.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

If you respected the source material you'd understand that what made the story a classic was that it was new, shocking, a first, and to dilute it into anything less than that by forcing it upon the films is a disgusting disservice to the integrity of the story. And it's hardly famous.

.............?

[pr0xyt0xin]

Originally Posted by Dagenspear

If you respected the source material you'd understand that what made the story a classic was that it was new, shocking, a first, and to dilute it into anything less than that by forcing it upon the films is a disgusting disservice to the integrity of the story. And it's hardly famous.

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

.............?

I agree with spideyboy, ".............?"

stunned silence.

adapting comic book source material into films "is a disgusting disservice to the integrity of the story"???

for someone who loiters on comic book movie forums like the rest of us... you got some strange opinions Dagen

[Dagenspear]

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111

.... I guess her entire existence in the comics is stupid than....

Kind of. On film, it would be, that is. It's just not practical in the universe Nolan had established. But like I said, just the whining of an obsessive comic book fanboy, that holds no merit.