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Old 02-03-2013, 02:51 PM   #801
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When exactly was that page published? This is what I see when I think of Curt Swan's Superman;

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Wow, I can't believe all the confusion over that Empire photo..Amy Adams is NOT in the photo.

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Second to bottom row to end: Superman picks up a woman at a bar, has sex with her and then realises she's a man

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Precisely.

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This is pretty much the first time I've ever found her all that attractive.
Yeah I feel the same. Everything else I've seen her in (which admittedly is very little) just hasn't done anything for me.

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Later, /ts/ changed into /s/ in many Romance languages and dialects. Spanish has not used this symbol since an orthographic reform in the 18th century (which replaced "" with the now-devoiced "z"), but it was adopted for writing other languages.
That's a bit overly complicated, but I think you do have a point. A more direct idea is that Zod's symbol is inspired from Medieval Alphabet.



It matches the Medieval/Renaissance inspired look they used for Kryptonian design. Makes a lot more sense than the Hammer and Sickle theory.

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Okay, I'm going to have to knockout the poster who said the insignia in the manip looks like a tongue. Because I just can't unsee it.

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It's an omega.

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It's an omega.
That's what you think.

Which makes more sense: a Medieval Z or a Greek O?

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Where is the omega in the Greek alphabet? The end. The Latin "z" is a crude imitation of it.

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this should settle the debate...

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Yup, that settles it. Not an Omega, which has nothing to do with Zod.

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And horses wear omega on their hooves, because hooves are on the bottom and omega is the last letter. Logic! lol

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Heh. In fact, I don't think the symbol is supposed to be anything other than what it is, but it seems probable that its basis is a twisted omega.

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Probable based on what?

The Greek alphabet already has a Z. It's called Zeta. Why would they pick omega "O" just because it's last? Why would they even pick Greek out of all the alphabets?

Superman's S is Latin.
All the other Kryptonian design looks Medieval.

Therefore, a truncated Medieval Latin Z is far more probable than an uneven, upside down, tilted omega.

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It hasn't occurred to anyone that Zod's symbol is likely just some random thing an artist came up with and/or doesn't have much to do with any language or style of text in our world?

I wonder how fans were reacting when they saw the symbols the Kryptonians were wearing in the first Superman film...

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That's possible, but I think they put a lot of thought into how the movie looks. Making Zod's symbol doesn't seem like something they would do randomly.

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Probable based on what?

The Greek alphabet already has a Z. It's called Zeta. Why would they pick omega "O" just because it's last? Why would they even pick Greek out of all the alphabets?

Superman's S is Latin.
All the other Kryptonian design looks Medieval.

Therefore, a truncated Medieval Latin Z is far more probable than an uneven, upside down, tilted omega.
No it isn't. It is naive to reason the creative process backwards, with full nerd application. The designer ended up with a stylised omega, so it is a fair bet that he started with one, and got there by looking at some non-Latin alphabets, probably associating the last letters in each with a Z. The motive would just be to find a symbol that looked nice without resembling a common Latin character.

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No it isn't. It is naive to reason the creative process backwards, with full nerd application. The designer ended up with a stylised omega, so it is a fair bet that he started with one, and got there by looking at some non-Latin alphabets, probably associating the last letters in each with a Z. The motive would just be to find a symbol that looked nice without resembling a common Latin character.
That's ironic because reasoning backwards is exactly what you're doing. You think it looks like an omega so you reasoned backwards that it's the last letter, and that enough for your belief. And now you're reasoning backwards the designer's method. lol

I'm reasoning forwards based on what's consistent to everything they have done so far.

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We are both reasoning backwards, which is inevitable if you are retracing a creative process. I'm really not sure how you can believe you are 'reasoning forward', when the end point is in front of you and you are trying to deduce its origin. I think my reasoning is more realistic and requires less nerd application, which is the distinction I was making.

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That's possible, but I think they put a lot of thought into how the movie looks. Making Zod's symbol doesn't seem like something they would do randomly.
Yeah, they put a lot of thought into how they want the film to look, but it feels that some people may be really over analyzing Zod's symbol.

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We are both reasoning backwards, which is inevitable if you are retracing a creative process. I'm really not sure how you can believe you are 'reasoning forward', when the end point is in front of you and you are trying to deduce its origin. I think my reasoning is more realistic and requires less nerd application, which is the distinction I was making.
Nope. Unlike you, I didn't decide what it looked like from the start. That's why you're reasoning backwards. I'm making a deduction, which is thinking backwards. That's not the same as already having a conclusion and trying to justify that conclusion: reasoning backwards.

By nerd application, do you mean thought?

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Yeah, they put a lot of thought into how they want the film to look, but it feels that some people may be really over analyzing Zod's symbol.
It's all for fun though. :P I'm not pretending to be right. The only way to know for sure is to ask the designer.

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