Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 - Page 10

CaptainCraig · 10-26-2012, 03:03 PM

Would be nice if this is one of those films that can be saved with DVD/BR sales.

spider-neil · 10-26-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KenK

1. V For Vendetta didn't show the actor's face, had about the same budget, and made it's budget back.

2. V For Vendetta was rated R.

3. the hero in V for Vendetta dies at the end.

Dredd suffered from, as others have stated, poor marketing, and a preceding film that was very poorly received. I hate when people try to make it all about, "The studios don't like making hard R superhero films, blah, blah, blah."

Yet you have films like Blade which was successful enough to spawn a franchise. Not to mention TWO separate Punisher films!!!

V for Vendetta had an A list Hollywood actress.

rogue trooper · 10-26-2012, 09:14 PM

Hmm, well, I suppose maybe if Dredd would have had "a name" like, say, Uma Thurman as Mama it might have caught the the mainstream's attention a little more, just like John Travolta's name probably helped The Punisher to, at least, not be a total financial flop. Maybe.

spider-neil · 10-27-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rogue trooper

Hmm, well, I suppose maybe if Dredd would have had "a name" like, say, Uma Thurman as Mama it might have caught the the mainstream's attention a little more, just like John Travolta's name probably helped The Punisher to, at least, not be a total financial flop. Maybe.

Also the name of the Wachowski's was attached hot on the heels of The Matrix. That would be like Nolan's named as producer for Dredd hot on the heels of TDK trilogy.

S. Grundy · 10-27-2012, 08:28 PM

This movie missed the mark, there wasn't a bit of satire to it.

gwynplaine · 10-27-2012, 08:32 PM

Really good Judge Dredd movie. Urban was a great Dredd. Could have used a better villain imo though, but still a very good film.
I would have loved to see Anderson (I thought Thirlby was really good in it too) facing Judge Death, in a next film with the same team

Who knows? Hopefully it still happens in the future.

_ "ANDERSSSON!"

Iron_Stark · 10-28-2012, 06:38 PM

Loved this movie. Damn shame it bombed at the boxoffice, hopefully it finds life in video sales.

redhawk23 · 10-29-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

V for Vendetta had an A list Hollywood actress.

Not to mention the Wachowski's had a higher pedigree at the time.

edit: as others have said.

Mikelus · 10-29-2012, 04:40 AM

Even the international BO was terrible, people just don't seem to care about Dredd. Maybe the character is not relatable enough for the masses, but the movie deserved better for its effort.

rogue trooper · 10-29-2012, 12:48 PM

I think maybe one of the reasons Dredd has been performing the way it has, it's because it's a risky, first-of-its-kind movie. What other properties do you know that in its first big screen adaptation ever had a massive financial and critical disaster, and years later be rebooted(at least successfully)?

.....and the The Punisher(1989), Captain America(1990), and Fantastic Four(1993) don't count, as they unnoticeably went direct to video.

Smallville13 · 10-30-2012, 06:42 AM

This movie is fantastic. I think I enjoyed it more than the Avengers actually only cause I had a big stupid grin on my face during lots of this. It wasn't trying to be anything other than pure fun entertainment. I can only imagine what a sequel would be if we got to explore the mega city more. Is there any hope?

I don't think studios are blind to quality movies they've produced whether they've made money or not. I believe there was a quote a couple years back where the head of Universal said that despite disappointing numbers he would rather make 10 more Scott Pilgrims than more of the other garbage they produced that year.

JD UK · 10-30-2012, 05:27 PM

I'd just like to use my first post to thank you all (even the ones I disagree with), for such a mature and informed discussion. It really has been a joy reading everyone's thoughts about 'Dredd' and its future. Special thanks to 'skoponok' and his interesting info on how films are funded. Maybe things aren't as bad as they seem?

Just to pick up on the point about the lack of satire in the film; I guess the scene where Dredd beats the **** out of Kay in front of the American flag doesn't count?

Current WW is $36m+

spider-neil · 10-31-2012, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JD UK

Current WW is $36m+

Oof!!

The Infernal · 10-31-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCraig

Would be nice if this is one of those films that can be saved with DVD/BR sales.

I would hope, but at this point I'm thinking the tv series idea the writer suggested might be a good plan b if it doesn't. I'd have preferred a trilogy, but I wouldn't hold my breath at this point.

Brian Braddock · 10-31-2012, 06:33 AM

C'mon Disney - we all know how deep those pockets are. Dont stop with Marvel and Lucasfilm, purchase the rights to 2000AD films. Pretty please?

Spark · 10-31-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by S. Grundy

This movie missed the mark, there wasn't a bit of satire to it.

The homeless guy? I thought that was hilarious. Pure Dredd.

Spark · 10-31-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

Oof!!

If you're a distributor. They need a couple of big boys to see the potential and take a risk.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 11-01-2012, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JD UK

Current WW is $36m+

Good stuff, if it can get over $40 million WW who knows what will happen with DVD/BD sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Braddock

C'mon Disney - we all know how deep those pockets are. Dont stop with Marvel and Lucasfilm, purchase the rights to 2000AD films. Pretty please?

If only hey BB.

rogue trooper · 11-01-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Good stuff, if it can get over $40 million WW who knows what will happen with DVD/BD sales.

It likely should be able to. This month it opens in Finland, Taiwan, Germany, and Switzerland. I have a feeling Germany's numbers should be somewhat substantial.

JD UK · 11-01-2012, 01:40 PM

Speaking of which

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPIbxq0ljzc

And there (as far as I can tell with my schoolboy level German), we have all the usual gripes about 3D, Stallone and 'The Raid' and those having to fight the brave fight against the trolls. Isn't it about time this s**t was getting old?

Japan should be a big one in the new year.

KenK · 11-01-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

V for Vendetta had an A list Hollywood actress.

That doesn't negate anything I said in response to Spider-neil's reasons for Judge Dredd failing.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 11-02-2012, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rogue trooper

It likely should be able to. This month it opens in Finland, Taiwan, Germany, and Switzerland. I have a feeling Germany's numbers should be somewhat substantial.

Fingers crossed it may even get to $50 million WW, we can only hope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD UK

Speaking of which

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPIbxq0ljzc

And there (as far as I can tell with my schoolboy level German), we have all the usual gripes about 3D, Stallone and 'The Raid' and those having to fight the brave fight against the trolls. Isn't it about time this s**t was getting old?

Japan should be a big one in the new year.

When does it open in Japan?

rogue trooper · 11-02-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

When does it open in Japan?

January.

Spark · 11-02-2012, 08:17 PM

I thought it was February. Or not at all. It doesn't seem to be officially confirmed anywhere.

If the Japanese end up falling in love with it though, they'll be my new favourite people.

rogue trooper · 11-03-2012, 12:02 AM

Yes, you're right, it is February.

10-26-2012, 03:03 PM	#226
CaptainCraig Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 476	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Would be nice if this is one of those films that can be saved with DVD/BR sales. __________________ Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Optimus Prime Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

10-26-2012, 09:14 PM	#228
rogue trooper Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,215	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Hmm, well, I suppose maybe if Dredd would have had "a name" like, say, Uma Thurman as Mama it might have caught the the mainstream's attention a little more, just like John Travolta's name probably helped The Punisher to, at least, not be a total financial flop. Maybe.

10-27-2012, 08:28 PM	#230
S. Grundy Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,410	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 This movie missed the mark, there wasn't a bit of satire to it.

10-27-2012, 08:32 PM	#231
gwynplaine L'homme qui rit. Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,563	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Really good Judge Dredd movie. Urban was a great Dredd. Could have used a better villain imo though, but still a very good film. I would have loved to see Anderson (I thought Thirlby was really good in it too) facing Judge Death, in a next film with the same team Who knows? Hopefully it still happens in the future. _ "ANDERSSSON!" __________________ Laugh now, laugh later.

10-28-2012, 06:38 PM	#232
Iron_Stark You ever tried Shawarma? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stark Tower Posts: 5,270	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Loved this movie. Damn shame it bombed at the boxoffice, hopefully it finds life in video sales.

10-29-2012, 04:40 AM	#234
Mikelus Islander Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: France Posts: 2,157	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Even the international BO was terrible, people just don't seem to care about Dredd. Maybe the character is not relatable enough for the masses, but the movie deserved better for its effort.

10-29-2012, 12:48 PM	#235
rogue trooper Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,215	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 I think maybe one of the reasons Dredd has been performing the way it has, it's because it's a risky, first-of-its-kind movie. What other properties do you know that in its first big screen adaptation ever had a massive financial and critical disaster, and years later be rebooted(at least successfully)? .....and the The Punisher(1989), Captain America(1990), and Fantastic Four(1993) don't count, as they unnoticeably went direct to video. Last edited by rogue trooper; 10-29-2012 at 12:54 PM.

10-30-2012, 06:42 AM	#236
Smallville13 Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,250	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 This movie is fantastic. I think I enjoyed it more than the Avengers actually only cause I had a big stupid grin on my face during lots of this. It wasn't trying to be anything other than pure fun entertainment. I can only imagine what a sequel would be if we got to explore the mega city more. Is there any hope? I don't think studios are blind to quality movies they've produced whether they've made money or not. I believe there was a quote a couple years back where the head of Universal said that despite disappointing numbers he would rather make 10 more Scott Pilgrims than more of the other garbage they produced that year.

10-30-2012, 05:27 PM	#237
JD UK Newbie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Plymouth UK Posts: 2	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 I'd just like to use my first post to thank you all (even the ones I disagree with), for such a mature and informed discussion. It really has been a joy reading everyone's thoughts about 'Dredd' and its future. Special thanks to 'skoponok' and his interesting info on how films are funded. Maybe things aren't as bad as they seem? Just to pick up on the point about the lack of satire in the film; I guess the scene where Dredd beats the **** out of Kay in front of the American flag doesn't count? Current WW is $36m+ Last edited by JD UK; 10-30-2012 at 06:22 PM.

10-31-2012, 06:33 AM	#240
Brian Braddock R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Great Britain Posts: 12,437	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 C'mon Disney - we all know how deep those pockets are. Dont stop with Marvel and Lucasfilm, purchase the rights to 2000AD films. Pretty please? __________________ After 23 long years the truth about what really happened has finally become public knowledge. Time for some ignorant ****ers to get themselves educated.

11-01-2012, 01:40 PM	#245
JD UK Newbie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Plymouth UK Posts: 2	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Speaking of which http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPIbxq0ljzc And there (as far as I can tell with my schoolboy level German), we have all the usual gripes about 3D, Stallone and 'The Raid' and those having to fight the brave fight against the trolls. Isn't it about time this s**t was getting old? Japan should be a big one in the new year.

11-02-2012, 08:17 PM	#249
Spark Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 813	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 I thought it was February. Or not at all. It doesn't seem to be officially confirmed anywhere. If the Japanese end up falling in love with it though, they'll be my new favourite people.

11-03-2012, 12:02 AM	#250
rogue trooper Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,215	Re: Judge Dredd Reboot!! - Part 2 Yes, you're right, it is February.

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