The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Spider-Man > The Amazing Spider-Man Sequels

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-10-2012, 07:48 PM   #26
SoNicRaDiATioN
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,539
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider-Who? View Post
Also, while I'm cool with Electro being the villian for ASM2, I'm not took keen on the possibility of holding off on killing Gwen till the third film. Perhaps GG makes a surprise appearance during the final battle (GG and Electro vs Spidey would be pretty bad ass), resulting in her death. That would be a huge cliffhanger and help drum up anticipation for the third film.
I disagree. Building up to her death over 3 films would be much more impactful. The casting of Harry makes me think of the casting of Norman. I want Norman's fingerprints all over Peter's life by the time we get GG. That means appearing in ASM2 as just Norman, then in TASM3 as Norman/GG.

__________________


Last edited by SoNicRaDiATioN; 10-10-2012 at 08:33 PM.
SoNicRaDiATioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 08:29 PM   #27
TheAQU4M4N
K1NG Of ATL4NTiS!
 
TheAQU4M4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,686
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

I love how they are mentioning Harry, now all we need is a announcement that Anton got the part lol

__________________
"Destiny is like a riptide. You never know it's pulling you until its too late."
TheAQU4M4N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 10:54 PM   #28
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,789
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

How do we know that Electro is the only villain in this? There's still hope that GG could be another villain and Gwen dies in TASM2.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Ant-Man
2016: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Captain America 3, X-Men: Apocalypse, The Amazing Spider-Man 3, Warcraft


Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 11:18 PM   #29
Spideyfan93
Hayley Atwell I love you!
 
Spideyfan93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 5,488
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Keep saying this...this will be a trilogy.

I very firmly believe that it's difficult and near impossible to kill Gwen in the third/final movie. We need an entire film to establish the aftermath and new light for Peter with MJ...not 2 acts...or an act.

Plus, you don't want to have an impactful scene like that in the beginning of the final entry! Second films in trilogies are the dark ones. It's the perfect time to kill Gwen, at the climax of ASM2. Obviously introduce MJ in the beginning so she is an established character when **** goes down.

Can't happen any other way now...considering how the narrative plot is already mixed with viewers as of now with ASM. ASM2 needs to blow minds plot wise, and the Gwen death is the card to play/lead up to.

It'll be expected by fans...but if it's done right and in a newly inventive way, that won't matter. It's all in the execution!

I'll say it time and time again until May 2014.

__________________
MAFFMANJONES MOVIE REVIEWS 2013!
4/22/13: The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Will Be Up to Par with the Best Comic Book Films! BOOK IT!
Captain America: The Winter Soldier Movie REVIEW!
VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Spideyfan93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 11:47 PM   #30
ThePowerCosmic
You are hailing!
 
ThePowerCosmic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HYDRA
Posts: 17,789
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spideyfan93 View Post
Keep saying this...this will be a trilogy.

I very firmly believe that it's difficult and near impossible to kill Gwen in the third/final movie. We need an entire film to establish the aftermath and new light for Peter with MJ...not 2 acts...or an act.

Plus, you don't want to have an impactful scene like that in the beginning of the final entry! Second films in trilogies are the dark ones. It's the perfect time to kill Gwen, at the climax of ASM2. Obviously introduce MJ in the beginning so she is an established character when **** goes down.

Can't happen any other way now...considering how the narrative plot is already mixed with viewers as of now with ASM. ASM2 needs to blow minds plot wise, and the Gwen death is the card to play/lead up to.

It'll be expected by fans...but if it's done right and in a newly inventive way, that won't matter. It's all in the execution!

I'll say it time and time again until May 2014.
And I'll agree with you time and time again.

__________________
2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars: Episode VII, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Ant-Man
2016: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Captain America 3, X-Men: Apocalypse, The Amazing Spider-Man 3, Warcraft


Hail HYDRA!

Thirsty? Get HYDRAted.
ThePowerCosmic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 11:51 PM   #31
UltimateWebhead
Black's the new Red&Blue
 
UltimateWebhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8,457
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

So far Webb and Co have made some very good choices for the cast in ASM and I have no choice other than to have faith in their decision for the role of MJ. Woodley very well may be the girl that undergoes a bit of a makeover, hair-dyed, etc. and then surprises us all by nailing it. Time will tell.

If Gwen is to die in the 2nd film, I truly hope they have GG involved and don't make a change to this part of the story and have Electro be the guilty party. That would be...just bad. I agree with the posters that have stated it would be more impactful to have Gwen be offed in the next movie.

UltimateWebhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 12:33 AM   #32
Liam_H
Side-Kick
 
Liam_H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: California
Posts: 8,497
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

But to have GG kill Gwen I would want Osborn himself to develop as a character first.

__________________

Spill


Liam_H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 01:03 AM   #33
GREEN =w= DAY
Side-Kick
 
GREEN =w= DAY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tijuana/San Diego
Posts: 5,512
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spideyfan93 View Post
Keep saying this...this will be a trilogy.

I very firmly believe that it's difficult and near impossible to kill Gwen in the third/final movie. We need an entire film to establish the aftermath and new light for Peter with MJ...not 2 acts...or an act.

Plus, you don't want to have an impactful scene like that in the beginning of the final entry! Second films in trilogies are the dark ones. It's the perfect time to kill Gwen, at the climax of ASM2. Obviously introduce MJ in the beginning so she is an established character when **** goes down.

Can't happen any other way now...considering how the narrative plot is already mixed with viewers as of now with ASM. ASM2 needs to blow minds plot wise, and the Gwen death is the card to play/lead up to.

It'll be expected by fans...but if it's done right and in a newly inventive way, that won't matter. It's all in the execution!

I'll say it time and time again until May 2014.
hopefully it won't be a trilogy. it'd be cool to stretch it out to at least 5 films with these actors.

GREEN =w= DAY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 02:32 AM   #34
DigificWriter
Side-Kick
 
DigificWriter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 3,201
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Two things:
1) I have yet to see a decent explanation as to why it is impossible to effectively and impactfully deal with Gwen's death and its aftermath in a single film.

2) I really don't understand why people are so enamored with and fixated on this idea that Mary Jane has to be this drop-dead gorgeous girl. Quite frankly, I think her original comic introduction was very poorly handled, and will even go so far as to call her iconic introductory line atrocious and a major disservice to the character.

As for the actress who seems to be on the studio's short list, I'm not familiar with her, but do think she's pretty enough to play the character of MJ.

DigificWriter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 02:32 AM   #35
J.Howlett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spideyfan93 View Post
Keep saying this...this will be a trilogy.

I very firmly believe that it's difficult and near impossible to kill Gwen in the third/final movie. We need an entire film to establish the aftermath and new light for Peter with MJ...not 2 acts...or an act.

Plus, you don't want to have an impactful scene like that in the beginning of the final entry! Second films in trilogies are the dark ones. It's the perfect time to kill Gwen, at the climax of ASM2. Obviously introduce MJ in the beginning so she is an established character when **** goes down.

Can't happen any other way now...considering how the narrative plot is already mixed with viewers as of now with ASM. ASM2 needs to blow minds plot wise, and the Gwen death is the card to play/lead up to.

It'll be expected by fans...but if it's done right and in a newly inventive way, that won't matter. It's all in the execution!

I'll say it time and time again until May 2014.
If the word is true that Emma Stone's contract for the series was only two films and the fact that they are introducing MJ now, you're pretty much going to be correct on this.

Remember, when the film was released, the facebook page for the film announced that Amazing was the first of a trilogy. And as you said, the second films in trilogies are always darker.

Honestly, if you look at how things are set up, they set up this trilogy exactly like Nolan's trilogy. Spidey's greatest nemesis will show up in the second film like Batman's greatest nemesis showed up in the second film in that trilogy.

It just seems obvious now, with this report about MJ.

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 02:56 AM   #36
Robin91939
Master Tim
 
Robin91939's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,637
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Howlett View Post
If the word is true that Emma Stone's contract for the series was only two films and the fact that they are introducing MJ now, you're pretty much going to be correct on this.

Remember, when the film was released, the facebook page for the film announced that Amazing was the first of a trilogy. And as you said, the second films in trilogies are always darker.

Honestly, if you look at how things are set up, they set up this trilogy exactly like Nolan's trilogy. Spidey's greatest nemesis will show up in the second film like Batman's greatest nemesis showed up in the second film in that trilogy.

It just seems obvious now, with this report about MJ.
But this would contradict the Electro rumor.

They are not, and I mean NOT going to have rebooted the franchise, gone back to high school in an attempt to recapture the innocence of Peter Parker and those younger years and make a point to introduce Gwen Stacey only to have her killed by someone other than the Green Goblin. Let me restate that: They. Will. Not.

Green Goblin will kill Gwen.

So that either means that they are not going to kill her in the second film (assuming Electro is the villain) or the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn is the villain in the second film.

It has to be one of these two scenarios. I am of the mind that Webb is going to make this whole trilogy about Gwen and Peter and that she won't die until the final film.

It was my hope that the second film would:
- Continue to build on the Osborn mythology.
- Deepen the connection with Peter's parents.
- Peter gets closer to Gwen.
- We would never meet Mary Jane, but we'd hear about her. Much like in the comics, Aunt May would suggest he go out with her (because Peter and Gwen were on and off).
- Have Norman become the Goblin at the end of the 2nd film and have him battle Spidey throughout the 3rd film.
- Gwen would die at the end of the 3rd film.
- Peter mourns, is lost.
- Aunt May attempts to lift his spirits, introducing him to her friend's niece.
- The last shot of the trilogy would be:



Fade to black.

Credits.

End.


That would be a fitting end to the Gwen Stacy saga, and leave the opportunity for Webb or another director to come in and take these actors and move on with a Mary Jane centric trilogy, completing a Spider-man saga of sorts.

-R


Last edited by Robin91939; 10-11-2012 at 03:00 AM.
Robin91939 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 03:01 AM   #37
J.Howlett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin91939 View Post
But this would contradict the Electro rumor. They are not, and I mean NOT going to have rebooted the franchise, gone back to high school in an attempt to recapture the innocence of Peter Parker and those younger years and make a point to introduce Gwen Stacey only to have her killed by someone other than the Green Goblin. Let me restate that: They. Will. Not.

Green Goblin will kill Gwen.

So that either means that they are not going to kill her in the second film, assuming Electro is the villain, or the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn is the villain in the second film.

It has to be one of these two. I am of the mind that Webb is going to make this whole trilogy about Gwen and Peter and that she won't die until the final film.

It was my hope that the second film would continue to build on the Osborn mythology. Deepening the connection with Peter's parents as Peter gets closer to Gwen. We would never meet Mary Jane, but we'd hear about her. Much like in the comics, Aunt May would suggest he go out with her (because Peter and Gwen were on and off). Have Norman become the Goblin at the end of the 2nd film and have him battle Spidey throughout the 3rd film. Gwen would die at the end of the 3rd film. The last shot of the trilogy would be:



Fade to black.

Credits.

End.


That would be a fitting end to the Gwen Stacy saga, and leave the opportunity for Webb or another director to come in and take these actors and move on with a Mary Jane centric trilogy, completing a Spider-man saga of sorts.

-R
Who says Electro and Goblin can't be in the second film together?

Again, the rumor is is that Emma Stone's contract was only for two films. What does that point to?

Electro can be in the second film in some capacity. That doesn't negate the idea that Goblin is also in the film and has a direct hand in Stacy's fate.

We'll just have to wait and see. But, with this MJ news and the strong rumor that Stone's contract was for two films, it just seem obvious how this sequel will play out. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58995)

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 03:09 AM   #38
Robin91939
Master Tim
 
Robin91939's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,637
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Howlett View Post
Who says Electro and Goblin can't be in the second film together?

Again, the rumor is is that Emma Stone's contract was only for two films. What does that point to?

Electro can be in the second film in some capacity. That doesn't negate the idea that Goblin is also in the film and has a direct hand in Stacy's fate.

We'll just have to wait and see. But, with this MJ news and the strong rumor that Stone's contract was for two films, it just seem obvious how this sequel will play out. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58995)
I don't think they're going to go multi villains. Arad and Tolmach have said several times that after Spider-man 3, they are going to focus only on single villains.

I also don't think that they would muddle their blue-chip story with an second villain. This is the holy grail of Spider-man stories. They aren't going to want to mess it up.

And if there is all of this talk that Emma has a two-film contract? If that's the case why is it up in the air if she is even signed for THIS second film? If she's under contract, she has no choice. So this whole, Emma contract thing is muddy at best.

I was under the impression she was under a 3-film contract, and Sony could choose how many films of that contract they want to exercise.

-R

Robin91939 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 03:40 AM   #39
SoNicRaDiATioN
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,539
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

I don't see how MJ being cast makes it obvious that Gwen will die in the sequel. Who cares if second films have been the darkest in the past, that's all the more reason to kill her in the third. It would be a big mistake, especially if you want to do Norman justice. As well as create a greater emotional payoff for Gwen's death and the cementing of Peter and MJ's relationship. The aftermath of that event could be twenty or so minutes of film that sets the table for the new relationship and ease the audience from the tragic state of mind into a bittersweet one. The new relationship with Peter and MJ then caries over into the fourth film, either with the same principals in place or a whole new cast picking up the pieces. It works.

I want to see the Betty/Veronica dynamic that was so great in the comics be portrayed in more then one film. Especially with a guy like Webb at the helm, it's right in his wheelhouse. Ditto for the Peter & Norman dynamic. It's different then it is with Batman and the Joker. One film is all you really need for that. The Osborn/Parker (GG/Spidey) relationship needs more then one film. So Norman in the sequel alone (with a main villain in the forefront), then Norman and the Green Goblin in the third. If that two contract rumor for Stone is true then they really missed the boat. We'll know soon enough.

__________________


Last edited by SoNicRaDiATioN; 10-11-2012 at 03:48 AM.
SoNicRaDiATioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 08:05 AM   #40
the_ultimate_evil
CURSE YOU GIN MONKEY.
 
the_ultimate_evil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: belfast northern ireland
Posts: 20,593
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

meh personally i just dont see it. and i know everyone is going to throw in emma stone or heath ledger and the usual wait till she plays the part crap.

i've never seen anything with her as an actress so i cant say if she's good or not but she just for me at least doesnt have the wow factor to be mary jane. same as dunst

__________________
And so I walk, into the searing light which banishes all darkness, surrendering my face and form to atoms of dust, seeking the true darkness of peace,the cool shadows of eternity and the unknown fate of nothingness
To view my site tumblr dev art twitter
the_ultimate_evil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 08:25 AM   #41
the_ultimate_evil
CURSE YOU GIN MONKEY.
 
the_ultimate_evil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: belfast northern ireland
Posts: 20,593
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spideyfan93 View Post
Keep saying this...this will be a trilogy.

I very firmly believe that it's difficult and near impossible to kill Gwen in the third/final movie. We need an entire film to establish the aftermath and new light for Peter with MJ...not 2 acts...or an act.

Plus, you don't want to have an impactful scene like that in the beginning of the final entry! Second films in trilogies are the dark ones. It's the perfect time to kill Gwen, at the climax of ASM2. Obviously introduce MJ in the beginning so she is an established character when **** goes down.

Can't happen any other way now...considering how the narrative plot is already mixed with viewers as of now with ASM. ASM2 needs to blow minds plot wise, and the Gwen death is the card to play/lead up to.

It'll be expected by fans...but if it's done right and in a newly inventive way, that won't matter. It's all in the execution!

I'll say it time and time again until May 2014.

agreed 150%. the blonde bimbo needs to fall

__________________
And so I walk, into the searing light which banishes all darkness, surrendering my face and form to atoms of dust, seeking the true darkness of peace,the cool shadows of eternity and the unknown fate of nothingness
To view my site tumblr dev art twitter
the_ultimate_evil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 09:20 AM   #42
Jick09
Auxiliary Assistant
 
Jick09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Across the burning sands
Posts: 8,323
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin91939 View Post
Green Goblin will kill Gwen.

So that either means that they are not going to kill her in the second film (assuming Electro is the villain) or the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn is the villain in the second film.

It has to be one of these two scenarios. I am of the mind that Webb is going to make this whole trilogy about Gwen and Peter and that she won't die until the final film.

It was my hope that the second film would:
- Continue to build on the Osborn mythology.
- Deepen the connection with Peter's parents.
- Peter gets closer to Gwen.
- We would never meet Mary Jane, but we'd hear about her. Much like in the comics, Aunt May would suggest he go out with her (because Peter and Gwen were on and off).
- Have Norman become the Goblin at the end of the 2nd film and have him battle Spidey throughout the 3rd film.
- Gwen would die at the end of the 3rd film.
- Peter mourns, is lost.
- Aunt May attempts to lift his spirits, introducing him to her friend's niece.
- The last shot of the trilogy would be:

Fade to black.

Credits.

End.

That would be a fitting end to the Gwen Stacy saga, and leave the opportunity for Webb or another director to come in and take these actors and move on with a Mary Jane centric trilogy, completing a Spider-man saga of sorts.

-R
So, the girl Peter loves dies at the end of the movie, Peter feels lost, in anger, sadness and all of the worst feelings someone might feel in this kind of situation, and a girl appears and says he just hit the jackpot?

I don't see this as a good moment to "hit the jackpot". Actually, I think there couldn't be a worse time for MJ to come and say that. He'll be living the worst moment of his life. Far from the jackpot.

__________________
Quote:
Lewis Black
"If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Jick09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 11:33 AM   #43
SoNicRaDiATioN
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,539
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jick09 View Post
So, the girl Peter loves dies at the end of the movie, Peter feels lost, in anger, sadness and all of the worst feelings someone might feel in this kind of situation, and a girl appears and says he just hit the jackpot?

I don't see this as a good moment to "hit the jackpot". Actually, I think there couldn't be a worse time for MJ to come and say that. He'll be living the worst moment of his life. Far from the jackpot.
Exactly. Gwen should die at the end of third no doubt, but MJ has to be introduced in the second for the transitional payoff.

__________________


Last edited by SoNicRaDiATioN; 10-11-2012 at 08:37 PM.
SoNicRaDiATioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 08:23 PM   #44
Hypestyle
Side-Kick
 
Hypestyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 5,770
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

no mary jane in part 2, preferably. If she's in, they might as well make her the original personality of the alluring, but relatively shallow party girl.. in comparison, the first movies pretty much ignored the comics' backstory of the mysterious niece of Anna, who Pete didn't meet until he was already in college.. She was made the girl next door, literally (not so much a complaint as an observation. But if they're going to include MJ again, I'd rather not see a literal re-tread of the old movie-character arc of being an aspiring stage actress.. The new cartoon recasts MJ as an aspiring journalist, so they could go there; maybe MJ gets a Daily Bugle internship and that's the angle for Pete to hang out there..)

Hypestyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 11:20 PM   #45
Robin91939
Master Tim
 
Robin91939's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,637
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

There are plenty of ways to have Peter lose Gwen in the final film and show that time goes on. It's easy to show Aunt May attempt to get Peter to rejoin the world.

Going on an innocent date....months after your girlfriend dies doesn't mean he doesn't love Gwen anymore.

-R

Robin91939 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 11:48 PM   #46
Duran Man
The Seventh Stranger
 
Duran Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 3,268
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin91939 View Post
But this would contradict the Electro rumor.

They are not, and I mean NOT going to have rebooted the franchise, gone back to high school in an attempt to recapture the innocence of Peter Parker and those younger years and make a point to introduce Gwen Stacey only to have her killed by someone other than the Green Goblin. Let me restate that: They. Will. Not.

Green Goblin will kill Gwen.

So that either means that they are not going to kill her in the second film (assuming Electro is the villain) or the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn is the villain in the second film.

It has to be one of these two scenarios. I am of the mind that Webb is going to make this whole trilogy about Gwen and Peter and that she won't die until the final film.

It was my hope that the second film would:
- Continue to build on the Osborn mythology.
- Deepen the connection with Peter's parents.
- Peter gets closer to Gwen.
- We would never meet Mary Jane, but we'd hear about her. Much like in the comics, Aunt May would suggest he go out with her (because Peter and Gwen were on and off).
- Have Norman become the Goblin at the end of the 2nd film and have him battle Spidey throughout the 3rd film.
- Gwen would die at the end of the 3rd film.
- Peter mourns, is lost.
- Aunt May attempts to lift his spirits, introducing him to her friend's niece.
- The last shot of the trilogy would be:



Fade to black.

Credits.

End.


That would be a fitting end to the Gwen Stacy saga, and leave the opportunity for Webb or another director to come in and take these actors and move on with a Mary Jane centric trilogy, completing a Spider-man saga of sorts.

-R
I'd burst with laughter at the amount of incongruity if this actually happened.

Duran Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 01:45 AM   #47
Robin91939
Master Tim
 
Robin91939's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,637
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duran Man View Post
I'd burst with laughter at the amount of incongruity if this actually happened.
In a bullet-by-bullet form, yes, it can seem perfunctory if this were to happen. But it is also something that could be done very well if done in full.

I think you guys are thinking I'm saying: Gwen dies, Mary shows up at the door, credits.

Gwen can die in the first/second act of the third film.

This can happen if Norman/Goblin are given a proper set up in the second film.

If we have Norman as the puppet master in the second film and then a full fledged villain in the third and have him kill Gwen almost before midway through the third film. The battle versus the Goblin can span more time than just a matter of days/weeks. It can be a month-plus timeline. We can see her die, see Peter mourn, Goblin running the criminal underworld, all in the same film. We can see Peter confront his loss of Gwen while eventually taking down the Goblin.

I'm not saying he is going to be "over" the death of Gwen. I'm saying he can be at the point where, reluctantly, he'll accept a request from May to get out of the house....meeting Mary Jane, setting up the next trilogy.

It could be done effectively and epically.

-R

Robin91939 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 02:47 PM   #48
The Caped Knight
Shield Avenger
 
The Caped Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 27,881
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

If MJ's in the sequel then I'll most definitely will support it and look forward to where it will lead.

The Caped Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 04:13 PM   #49
SoNicRaDiATioN
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,539
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin91939 View Post
In a bullet-by-bullet form, yes, it can seem perfunctory if this were to happen. But it is also something that could be done very well if done in full.

I think you guys are thinking I'm saying: Gwen dies, Mary shows up at the door, credits.

Gwen can die in the first/second act of the third film.

This can happen if Norman/Goblin are given a proper set up in the second film.

If we have Norman as the puppet master in the second film and then a full fledged villain in the third and have him kill Gwen almost before midway through the third film. The battle versus the Goblin can span more time than just a matter of days/weeks. It can be a month-plus timeline. We can see her die, see Peter mourn, Goblin running the criminal underworld, all in the same film. We can see Peter confront his loss of Gwen while eventually taking down the Goblin.

I'm not saying he is going to be "over" the death of Gwen. I'm saying he can be at the point where, reluctantly, he'll accept a request from May to get out of the house....meeting Mary Jane, setting up the next trilogy.

It could be done effectively and epically.

-R
Coming through LOUD and C L E A R.

__________________


Last edited by SoNicRaDiATioN; 10-12-2012 at 04:38 PM.
SoNicRaDiATioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 08:06 PM   #50
D.P.
Dead Presidents.
 
D.P.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicagotham
Posts: 2,201
Default Re: Shailene Woodley In Talks For Mary Jane Watson

So we're never going to get an MJ that oozes sex appeal huh?

__________________
POLITICS AS USUAL.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gu3ree View Post
To me, Man of Steel just felt to me like Snyder and Goyer tried to make Superman look less, and simple next to Batman, like yeah Superman is good, he's cool, but not as interesting as Batman.
D.P. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.