Arrow General Discussion Thread

[TheComicbookKid]

Originally Posted by solidsnake86

The guy spent five years on an island, being tortured and what not. That would realistically have an effect on any person and if it didn't I would find something wrong with it. Kinda like how in cast away tom hanks went a little nuts from what I remember of that movie.

I agree that anyone would be damaged. The insanity is that he's lost the ability to adjust to change. Look at episode 6. It's exactly what I said.

The Royal Flush gang started 3 years ago meaning they weren't on Ollie's list. And he didn't care. For someone talking about cleaning up the poison in his city, he couldn't reason that the list isn't the only problem.

Diggle had to trick him into helping that officer and going after the Royal Flush gang.

The list isn't about cleaning the city. It's just revenge. And revenge is what he survived on the island with.

It's interesting to me. But he's still delusional.

[Cory]

I learned 3 things tonight...

1. Good episode
2. They totally ripped off 'Inside Man'.
3. Apparently an arrow shot in the middle of someones chest does not hurt or kill them. (vest?)

[The_Shadow]

3. Pretty sure it was his right shoulder that was shot, not that it changes much pain wise.

They just wanted to give the guy that non-stop villain vibe.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by The_Shadow

3. Pretty sure it was his right shoulder that was shot, not that it changes much pain wise.

They just wanted to give the guy that non-stop villain vibe.

or the invincible roid rage vibe.

was it the shoulder? ill have to watch again it looked dead center of the chest at first.

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by Cory

or the invincible roid rage vibe.

was it the shoulder? ill have to watch again it looked dead center of the chest at first.

Yeah, but then the camera moves or the shot changed and you could see it in the shoulder.

[Cory]

Either way, he must be using suction cup arrows

[Cory]

Anyone else think it was weird that Speedy (although drunk) seemed clueless that Tommy was talking about Laurel? it was just like 2 episodes again when she told Oliver they were boning eachother

[herolee10]

On another note, I never did give my input on what I think about the show so far.

Honestly, I really thought at first that this was going to tank. I was never really a big fan of the idea of having a Green Arrow TV Series, and I really didn't think that it would be good at all.

However, after seeing every episode that has aired so far, my views of the show have changed DRASTICALLY. I really like what the show has done and where it's gone so far.

Yeah, it's not exactly entirely faithful to the comics (then again, is there any comic book medium that ever is?), but it's really great to watch. I love on how they've really made the show into a crime drama at times and how they've really given audiences something to tune in for.

I love the idea of Oliver chasing after the individuals listed in his father's book while learning the mystery behind on what happened to him on the Island. It's definitely the concept of the island that really intrigues me a lot since I like the idea that Oliver went through hell over there and that it was like another war that he had to survive before coming back to the present; makes him feel more seasoned to me as he begins his hunt on the corrupt.

Overall, I hope the show can continue to keep rising in its quality.

[Deathstroke]

Merlyn being responsible for Thea's death would be a great way to make him and Oliver into enemies.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by Deathstroke

Merlyn being responsible for Thea's death would be a great way to make him and Oliver into enemies.

It's definitely a better solution than going down the CW route of having them become enemies because of a love interest (Laurel)

[Fans of Reilly]

I noticed everyone complaint about the love triangle and Thinking it it on the show Because it a CW show I have a question Do you read comics

Comics writers loves the love triangles like or More than the CW

Examples of the love triangle in Comics


1. Bruce Talia and Selina

2. Dick Grayson Kory and Barbara

3. Hal Jordan, Carol Ferris and cowgirl

4. Spider-Man, Mary Jane and Black Cat

5. Scott and Jean Grey and Wolverine

[violetspike123]

last night's episode was pretty good.

[Ipodman]

Honestly, every episode has been good...

[Midnight Black]

This was a good episode and not a rip off of inside man, as having an inside man on a bank heist has been done before.

Anywho, this was actually the first time that I felt the writers & Olliver did not rip off Nolan/Batman, in that Olliver didn't really want to fight crime or be a hero or really try to cleanup the city by ridding it of crime, but instead just wanted to target those on the list to avenge his father and his wrongdoings.

[ChickenScratch]

Good episode. I liked the interpretation of the Royal Flush gang. You can see how these people would eventually evolve and more elaborate MO after a few generations.

Also this show's giving us on an almost weekly basis a new up and coming director that shoots really well.

Another thing. About Oliver's liberal political leanings in the comics. I can totally see them eventually going that way. He's going after the rich of Star city, it's not too far till he hates all rich people and is arguing with Bruce Wayne. I can see it happening.

[Midnight Black]

Question, I can't remember but are they ever called the "Royal Flush Gang" in the episode?

How do you guys feel about them not using comic names of the characters on the show (Deadshot, Deathstroke, GA, Huntress)?

Do you think that it makes the show less hokey and campy OR do you feel that it cheapens the characters by not fully identifying whom they are?

[Nathan]

Actually, Deadshot was named Deadshot. Deathstroke, well, there wasn't an opportunity yet to drop his name. And they might not call Ollie Green Arrow on the show yet, but at least Ollie called himself Arrow. With Huntress, I think we have to wait till the Episode airs.

[ChickenScratch]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

Question, I can't remember but are they ever called the "Royal Flush Gang" in the episode?

How do you guys feel about them not using comic names of the characters on the show (Deadshot, Deathstroke, GA, Huntress)?

Do you think that it makes the show less hokey and campy OR do you feel that it cheapens the characters by not fully identifying whom they are?

I think they were called by that name but don't quote me on it. I have this weird thing where every Wed like clockwork something pops up moments before the show starts and I always miss the first 5 to 10 mins.

I do think they should use the real character names.

[Nathan]

Would it have made sense to call them the Royal Flush gang though? They were only 4 members.

[jaymes_e06]

^The other members were on vacation?

[DrCosmic]

Originally Posted by TheComicbookKid

Forcing confessions isn't chance. And what about the people not on the list.

The guy who was intimidated into lying about the toxic spill deserved to be tied to a train track like a piece of meat?

Forcing confessions is indeed a chance. Certainly not a fair chance, or an effective tactic in the real world, but it is quite literally 'do this and you're free.' And Ollie hasn't done the whole 'Thanks for the Info, now die anyway' to anyone. And no, these people don't deserve it, and he has no right to be judge, jury and executioner, but that doesn't mean that the people he's targeting don't have a chance to live. That's all I'm saying on the chances thing.

No. He's insane cause despite everyone telling him something isn't right. Ollie, Lance, Laurel and Thea. He's still not getting it.

That's what Digg's voiceover really said. He never thought about people getting close or having concerns when he hatched this plan. And he's not adjusting. He's just moving forward come hell or whatever.

Stubbornness isn't insanity. He's wrong, he's bad, he's corrupt, he's twisted, he's broken, he's obsessed. But he's not irrational on any level at any time. He's following a very simple cause and effect, one that, as he replied to Digg when confronted on that, hurts him too, he just considers it worth it. That's not insanity. That's just plain old run of the mill being wrong.

[riotgirl77]

Arrow is up for a People's Choice Award for "Best New Drama"

http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/vot...llId=&optionId

[ChickenScratch]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Would it have made sense to call them the Royal Flush gang though? They were only 4 members.

I don't know crap about playing cards or what a royal flush within the context of a card game is. I saw playing card themed thieves in a CD universe show, works for me.

[Liam_H]

Was there any meaning for them to go with that persona? Seemed kind of random for them to take on that identity as a whole and kind of stupid since the cops will know every bank they hit.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by ChickenScratch

I don't know crap about playing cards or what a royal flush within the context of a card game is. I saw playing card themed thieves in a CD universe show, works for me.

Well, a Royal Flush consists of the cards 10, Jack, Queen, King and Ace. And since they were just four, you couldn't really call them the Royal Flush gang. I don't understand why they didn't simply add a 5th family member.