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Old 01-26-2013, 06:56 PM   #401
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It's obvious that some people don't understand what Abrams and Co. actually did; they didn't 'erase' anything from the previously existing Star Trek canon and continuity; what they did was create a new separate continuity.

This DoFP situation is by no means the same 'kettle of fish'. In order for DoFP to do away with the events of existing movies in the franchise, the past would have to be so drastically altered that the future unfolds from the point of change in a manner that is drastically different from what happened initially, meaning that, as someone else pointed out, the entirety of the existing franchise would be wiped from existence,which isn't likely to happen given that FOX is looking to perpetuate the existing franchise, not reboot it.
...But they'd still be connected. Ergo, part of the franchise.

Good writing can make all of your potential conundrums seem like cloud patterns. Let's give them a chance.


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Holding out for James marsden now. Who knows how big these roles are going to be
I'm crossing my fingers for him and Famke Jansson to return.

This project seems to be getting more and more promising... very epic in scope. Even with the original X-Men cast returning in smaller roles, I hope they don't overwhelm the presence of the FC cast.

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Maybe.

But then why are they all buddy-buddy?

Yet another thing that needs answering.
Xavier getting shot was an accident and Magneto is making amends. Theyre not enemies, they just disagree on humans.

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I think it's one of those cases where they simply ignore things like that.
You win the thread.


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Xavier getting shot was an accident and Magneto is making amends. Theyre not enemies, they just disagree on humans.
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JackMercy: If you erase the events of X1,X2, X3, and The Wolverine from existence, you're basically rebooting the franchise, and that is not what FOX wants to do.

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Well well... since Singer's comments do hint on the future events in DoFP taking place after X3, I'm really curious as to how they make it all work. And how, for instance, they'll explain old!Charles being alive again to the general audience who did not stick around to watch that post-credit sequence (not to mention the total lameness of the whole dead twin scenario).

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It's not a reboot if the original actors and director is involved. Its a retcon.

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^ It's a reboot; it's a 'soft' reboot, but it's still a reboot, and that's not what FOX wants to do with the franchise.

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JackMercy: If you erase the events of X1,X2, X3, and The Wolverine from existence, you're basically rebooting the franchise, and that is not what FOX wants to do.
I think he just wants them to erase the events of these two. And seeing how X3 played out, I'm inclined to agree with him.

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I don't get how people expect the events of X3 being erased when the whole Phoenix storyline is a direct continuation of X2 and the cure storyline is unlikely to have anything to do with the 60s events.

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People really don't get it. Unless TLS and The Wolverine are being ignored and the future events of DoFP take place in the timeframe covered by those films, changing the past will alter the future going forward. Because DoFP is the sequel to First Class, it will likely take place relatively close to the events of that film, meaning that any changes that are made to the future will alter that future from the moment that said changes occur, erasing the events of not only TLS, The Wolverine, and the DoFP future from having ever happened, but also the events of X- Men and X2.

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My goodness. This is a classic example of why film studios should have a little respect for their franchises. That way, continuity trainwrecks like this don't end up happening. I'm even confused by how things may or may not unfold.


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JackMercy: If you erase the events of X1,X2, X3, and The Wolverine from existence, you're basically rebooting the franchise, and that is not what FOX wants to do.
You can't erase The Wolverine from existence, it hasn't happened yet.

Besides, the dude's kind of invulnerable...

I'm very familiar with studio franchise politics, my friend...


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I don't get how people expect the events of X3 being erased when the whole Phoenix storyline is a direct continuation of X2 and the cure storyline is unlikely to have anything to do with the 60s events.
Not really...it didn't continue Singer's intended narrative!


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Things will probably be post X3 till the time travel is introduced then they either... A. Change the future or B. Create a new timeline. Leaving all the problems of the X films in the past and allowing a safe future for the X Men, Cyclops and all.

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My goodness. This is a classic example of why film studios should have a little respect for their franchises. That way, continuity trainwrecks like this don't end up happening. I'm even confused by how things may or may not unfold.

You shouldn't be. It will all make sense in the end.

People are making this much more complicated than it needs to be.

You lot should chill and speculate on who or what might be cast as a villain to fight all of these complex "heroes" being cast!


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You shouldn't be. It will all make sense in the end.

People are making this much more complicated than it needs to be.

You lot should chill and speculate on who or what might be cast as a villain to fight all of these complex "heroes" being cast!

Trevor Fitzroy has to be one of the villains.

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I'm very familiar with studio franchise politics, my friend...

What? FOX doesn't want to reboot the franchise, but perpetuate it (IOW expand and extend it as it currently exists); they are therefore going to preserve the continuity of the franchise as it exists, not discard it (which is what would happen if the events of DoFP changed the future and erased the events of X1, X2, X3, and The Wolverine).

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^You don't get it.Unless TLS and The Wolverine are being ignored and the future events of DoFP take place in the timeframe covered by those films, changing the past will alter the future going forward' Because DoFP is the sequel to First Class, it will likely take place relatively close to the events of that film, meaning that any changes that are made to the future will alter that future from the moment that said changes occur, erasing the events f not only TLS, The Wolverine, and the DoFP future from having ever happened, but also the events of X- Men and X2.
I understand. Linear timelines and all that. However, I highly doubt FOX is going to take that route and alienate their fans. They're not going to retcon previous films and practically reboot the franchise. Hell, I don't even think Singer is be apart of a film deems his prior films irrelevant. To be honest, I see the film trying to do a Star Trek (2009) or Back to the Future II plot device.

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^ I know. That's what I'm arguing against.

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People really don't get it. Unless TLS and The Wolverine are being ignored and the future events of DoFP take place in the timeframe covered by those films, changing the past will alter the future going forward. Because DoFP is the sequel to First Class, it will likely take place relatively close to the events of that film, meaning that any changes that are made to the future will alter that future from the moment that said changes occur, erasing the events of not only TLS, The Wolverine, and the DoFP future from having ever happened, but also the events of X- Men and X2.
I'm with you on your "soft" reboot comment. Honestly, it sounds more and more like Singer has combined X4 and First Class 2 together into this massive film called Days of Future Past.

These casting announcements just prove it.

 
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The continuity of the X-films is not fixable at this point. I'll be happy with a solid FC trilogy incorporating the future however they see fit and I'll give them a bit of a pass on continuity issues for now as it's so complicated. After that I would like a total reboot starting from scratch so we can do X-Men the way it should be done on film with events planned out in advance to avoid this situation, top notch directors, writers & cast & a big budget using the best of the (20)10s visual effects.

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You shouldn't be. It will all make sense in the end.

People are making this much more complicated than it needs to be.

You lot should chill and speculate on who or what might be cast as a villain to fight all of these complex "heroes" being cast!

Yeah, you're right. We won't know until the trailer at the earliest and the actual release at the latest. I think I'm through trying to figure this out until 2014.


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But the simple explanation is that TLS is the alternate timeline. Seeing as how that movie was not titled X3. And the events of The Wolverine takes place after X2.

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