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Old 07-29-2013, 07:13 PM   #751
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I think most people who've read Avengers comics or are real fans know this of Pym. That's what makes him so darn interesting to me and it's a shame we'll not get this. He's so much more interesting than most straightforward superhero characters.

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Old 07-29-2013, 07:53 PM   #752
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We'll get it in this movie.

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Probably not if this is an Ant Man movie and he's a retired ex-hero or whatever.

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Old 07-29-2013, 09:50 PM   #754
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Him being retired in the present day doesn't mean we can't get the essence of the character. Wright says he "teams up" with Lang anyway. I can see it where Pym was this guy who really wanted to do good and help people when he was young but kept failing, so when we meet him he's disheartened and cynical. Through meeting Lang he learns to believe in good again. It's the same as "To Steal An Ant-Man". We'd still get the essence of Hank Pym's character.

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I was really hoping this movie would be a Hank Pym/Ant-man origin story. Dammit I want Ant-man not Ant-men!!

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So getting the essence from a retired Hank Pym should satisfy the Pym fan ? Ok

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That's cookie cutting what I said. Pym doesn't have to be Ant-Man or anything else to be Hank Pym...and he shouldn't. "Pym fans" should understand that, but I just see a bunch of upset people over the fact he's not THE Ant-Man when he pretty much never has been anyway.

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The Pym fan shouldn't be fine with an old retired representation of a character that was never that in the first place. Forget Ant Man I'm talking Pym.

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That's cookie cutting what I said. Pym doesn't have to be Ant-Man or anything else to be Hank Pym...and he shouldn't. "Pym fans" should understand that, but I just see a bunch of upset people over the fact he's not THE Ant-Man when he pretty much never has been anyway.
lolwut

He's the ORIGINAL Ant-Man. Lang wore the suit longer in the Avengers, while Pym stomped around as Giant-Man, Goliath and Yellowjacket; but it's Pym's suit and invention, and Pym wore it for over a full year in TTA.

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He's the ORIGINAL Ant-Man. Lang wore the suit longer in the Avengers, while Pym stomped around as Giant-Man, Goliath and Yellowjacket; but it's Pym's suit and invention, and Pym wore it for over a full year in TTA.

being the original Ant-Man isn't anything to brag about. Scott still did it better.

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The Pym fan shouldn't be fine with an old retired representation of a character that was never that in the first place. Forget Ant Man I'm talking Pym.
can't forget Ant-Man. it's the title of the movie (and Scott's a bit part of the Ant-Man legacy). and you don't know that Pym will be old or that he won't spring out of retirement by the end of the movie. we know next to nothing, at this point; besides him being a huge part of the movie.

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Scott is a nobody in a stolen suit whose back story is a cliche.

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He's the ORIGINAL Ant-Man. Lang wore the suit longer in the Avengers, while Pym stomped around as Giant-Man, Goliath and Yellowjacket; but it's Pym's suit and invention, and Pym wore it for over a full year in TTA.
Being the original does not make you the definitive. Ask Jay Garrick. Or any other original superhero whose moniker has been iconized by another character (not that Ant-Man is even close to being that status in the first place).

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Being the original does not make you the definitive. Ask Jay Garrick. Or any other original superhero whose moniker has been iconized by another character (not that Ant-Man is even close to being that status in the first place).
You could've just as easily used Alan Scott.
But being the first Green Lantern or the first Flash isn't a prerequisite for the more popular incarnations of those characters; i.e., neither Jay or Alan were *necessary* for Barry Allen or Hal Jordan to come into existence. Their origin stories developed entirely independently of the firsties. In Ant-Man's case, you simply do not have Scott Lang without Hank Pym, because Scott Lang's origin story is entirely dependent on the existence of Hank Pym.

Although god knows if Joss has anything to say about it, it'll be different. Joss clearly hates Hank Pym.

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but he's not an internet troll.

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Disliking a character is trolling now?

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Is it true this film releases on the same day as the next bond film!?

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We're not talking about me, but rather your implication that xeno is a troll for disliking Scott Lang.

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We're not talking about me, but rather your implication that xeno is a troll for disliking Scott Lang.
oh, i know. i was just trying to figure out if i'm a troll.

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Even if Edgar does still want Pym as a 60s superhero there are ways he could get around making him elderly in the modern era if they wanted by having Pym invent and use the infinity formula.

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Even if Edgar does still want Pym as a 60s superhero there are ways he could get around making him elderly in the modern era if they wanted by having Pym invent and use the infinity formula.
don't forget the elusive "echo time locator" =)

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oh, i know. i was just trying to figure out if i'm a troll.
You already answered that question.

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the trash heap has spoken.

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