The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141

[BlueLightning]

I'm sorry, but the ending is pretty straightforward. While I think that Bruce still has lingering feelings about his deathwish (the whole "No Autopilot" thing), it is pretty clear that he chose to save himself. That was the point of the film, that Bruce has to overcome all the pain that was burdening his whole life.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

It's funny to think back before the film was released, the whole debate if Bruce was actually going to be killed off or not, I for one am glad he wasn't.

[Anno_Domini]

But he DID die....

Inception....

[kvz5]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

I'm sorry, but the ending is pretty straightforward. While I think that Bruce still has lingering feelings about his deathwish (the whole "No Autopilot" thing), it is pretty clear that he chose to save himself. That was the point of the film, that Bruce has to overcome all the pain that was burdening his whole life.

Agreed.

Also, I don't think he was sure either that the autopilot will work (even if he fixed it) and that he will survive. I think he learned something from Bane about the "whole giving people hope and then taking it away" punishment. He didn't want to give the people he cared about hope that he will survive when it's most likely that he won't.

I'm not satisfied with some parts of the ending but I'm glad that Bruce survived and finally got the chance to live a life free from anger and pain with someone.

[Brain Damage]

Originally Posted by Kane52630

This is beautiful
Did you take it?

[Kane52630]

Nah, it's been going around on tumblr for a while. There's a bunch of them for different movies.

[TheSymbol]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

I'm sorry, but the ending is pretty straightforward. While I think that Bruce still has lingering feelings about his deathwish (the whole "No Autopilot" thing), it is pretty clear that he chose to save himself. That was the point of the film, that Bruce has to overcome all the pain that was burdening his whole life.

Then how do you explain the fact that he is still in the bat when there's 5seconds on the bomb? it's impossible to save yourself for a bomb like that in less then 5 seconds.

[BlueLightning]

Originally Posted by TheSymbol

Then how do you explain the fact that he is still in the bat when there's 5seconds on the bomb? it's impossible to save yourself for a bomb like that in less then 5 seconds.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

But seriously, it most likely could have been an artistic choice, toying with the timeframe, he could have jumped earlier, etc...

Also, he is Batman.

[Mr.?]

They inserted the cut of Batman in the plane to make you think he died to trick the audience to make the reveal awesome, simple as that. Stop looking at it from a technical aspect of how he could have survived.

[TheSymbol]

Originally Posted by Mr.?

They inserted the cut of Batman in the plane to make you think he died to trick the audience to make the reveal awesome, simple as that. Stop looking at it from a technical aspect of how he could have survived.

Then i find it a cheap trick.
I rather think in a more logical way.You see him just before it explodes,he couldnt survived it.Even if he would eject from it.

[Travesty]

Originally Posted by TheSymbol

Then how do you explain the fact that he is still in the bat when there's 5seconds on the bomb?

Magic!

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by TheSymbol

Then how do you explain the fact that he is still in the bat when there's 5seconds on the bomb? it's impossible to save yourself for a bomb like that in less then 5 seconds.

Unless somebody is writing the situation and decides to make it happen like that.

[BlueLightning]

Originally Posted by TheSymbol

Then i find it a cheap trick.
I rather think in a more logical way.You see him just before it explodes,he couldnt survived it.Even if he would eject from it.

It's like somebody said:

"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn't clap yet. Because making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back. That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige"." "

[TheSymbol]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

It's like somebody said:

"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn't clap yet. Because making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back. That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige"." "

Thats dialog from my fav Nolan movie The Prestige.
And yeah maybe thats what Nolan wanted to use for TDKR.

[Travesty]

When those 5 seconds were counting down, I could just see it on Batman's face, ya know? I just knew he was going to live! I could feel it in my bones and stuff.

[TheBat812]

Originally Posted by TheSymbol

Then how do you explain the fact that he is still in the bat when there's 5seconds on the bomb? it's impossible to save yourself for a bomb like that in less then 5 seconds.

It's called editing. It's not like they show you the timer twice to lock in the time frame. They are simply using editing to manipulate the audience, and thye did it to amazing effect.

[Anita18]

Originally Posted by kvz5

Agreed.

Also, I don't think he was sure either that the autopilot will work (even if he fixed it) and that he will survive. I think he learned something from Bane about the "whole giving people hope and then taking it away" punishment. He didn't want to give the people he cared about hope that he will survive when it's most likely that he won't.

I'm not satisfied with some parts of the ending but I'm glad that Bruce survived and finally got the chance to live a life free from anger and pain with someone.

That's a good point and I never thought about that, actually. And there was no time to explain that he put in a patch but never tested it...

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by Travesty

When those 5 seconds were counting down, I could just see it on Batman's face, ya know? I just knew he was going to live! I could feel it in my bones and stuff.

Tuppence.

[antsman41]

Nolan says on the bonus features, Bruce's injured leg was from the fall with Harvey Dent...

[Nathan]

He was falls off a building, holding Rachel and crashes into a Taxi, walks away without a scratch. He drops a couple feet after tackling Harvey, injures his leg.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by TheSymbol

Then how do you explain the fact that he is still in the bat when there's 5seconds on the bomb? it's impossible to save yourself for a bomb like that in less then 5 seconds.

That was meant to be a tense scene where you think he did die. You wanted Nolan to make it seem like there couldn't have been a chance he died?

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Nathan

He was falls off a building, holding Rachel and crashes into a Taxi, walks away without a scratch. He drops a couple feet after tackling Harvey, injures his leg.

It makes sense if he landed weirdly on his leg maybe.

[BlueLightning]

Originally Posted by Nathan

He was falls off a building, holding Rachel and crashes into a Taxi, walks away without a scratch. He drops a couple feet after tackling Harvey, injures his leg.

He managed to open his cape with the Rachel incident whereas at the end with Harvey he couldn't.

[Nathan]

How much did that even break his fall? He managed to open his cape for like the last 2-3 seconds, and then it was not even fully opened as if he was hang gliding, because he still had to hold onto Rachel.

[BlueLightning]

As much as keeping him and Rachel safe.