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Old 10-31-2012, 06:20 AM   #101
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Actually, I would love a Darth Vader Origins movie done right. Something that makes me forget Episode I-III.

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I sure as hell hope they don't reboot/remake or even touch the Prequels. Like them or not, they're part of the canon. To alter them in any way would be asinine, imo.

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I sure as hell hope they don't reboot/remake or even touch the Prequels. Like them or not, they're part of the canon. To alter them in any way would be asinine, imo.
Agreed. And anyway, onwards and upwards. Move on and continue the story.

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A Darth Vader origin movie would probably mean the Live-Action show would be scrapped and be set between ROTS and ANH, but I would love to see it.

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I love many EU products. Let's not forget that the Clone Wars series is EU, too. But I think those of us who'd be upset aren't really a big factor in their decisions.
Well, the CW is EU, but its ona different tier. What I mean is this:

Star Wars Canons:
G-canon: Geroge Lucas films canon. The be-all, end-all official. This of course probably changes with Disney in charge, but you get the point.
T-canon: TV canon. Follows the films, and is endorsed and has some creative input from Lucas. Higher than all EU material.
C-canon: All EU that is considered currently in continuity. If Lucas/Disney decides to overwrite something, they can and it sup to the authors/fans to sort out the inconsistencies.

Pretty good overall description here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

There was a timenot so long ago when I was against ever overwriting the EU. I still hate the idea that a lot of authors put a lot of work into the novels and games and such, and to have it swept under the rug is kind of like punching them in the gut. However, I couldn't keep following EU after events such as Gianakin has spoilered, exception being video games, so if they decide to go a different direction than the EU, frankly I am all for it. I do hope they keep the base continuity. Like Joss Whedon tweeted earlier, I would love to actually see a Yuuzhan Vong invasion, but I'd like to see a lot of changes done. If they use the Solo kids I know a major change that could be done.

tl;dr , I enjoy the EU mostly, but I don't want them to be held back by what has been established. The Clone Wars series obviously wasn't.

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I agree with everything you said.

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I sure as hell hope they don't reboot/remake or even touch the Prequels. Like them or not, they're part of the canon. To alter them in any way would be asinine, imo.
Looks at custom title. Yea, but to many it would not IMO. I'd prefer a non-whiny/spoiled annoying brat for Vader.

Whether you like them or not the prequels did not have some profound effect on society like the originals did, changing them I really don't think the general audience and many of the fans would mind. However this is the Episode VII forum so I Guess we save that for another day.

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They did have a profound effect on society, mostly negative from what I can tell. Although I don't think they're as universally hated as some would have people think.

Still, erasing canon from existence is not something I'd be fond of.

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They did have a profound effect on society, mostly negative from what I can tell. Although I don't think they're as universally hated as some would have people think.

Still, erasing canon from existence is not something I'd be fond of.
No not universally, but for the most part negative. But to eaches own. At least for now we just have to worry about VII-IX.

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Bit of a exaggeration I know.
All of them represent interesting talents and serious potential. Its not like they are over exposed in some fashion.

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I would love to see a movie(s) that explores what takes place between III and IV. I think seeing Vadar track down the remaining Jedi has a ton of potential.

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Looks at custom title. Yea, but to many it would not IMO. I'd prefer a non-whiny/spoiled annoying brat for Vader.

Whether you like them or not the prequels did not have some profound effect on society like the originals did, changing them I really don't think the general audience and many of the fans would mind. However this is the Episode VII forum so I Guess we save that for another day.
The prequels were still successful in gaining fans of a new generation, that's the same goal the new trilogy will have, it's too early to reboot the prequels, i say just go on with this new trilogy and continue Lucas's universe

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Whatever they do I'd like it to be after ROTJ. That'll free them up from having to worry about lining more stuff up continuity wise.

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I'd loved to see the Timothy Zahn's "Thrawn Trilogy come to life.

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The prequels were still successful in gaining fans of a new generation, that's the same goal the new trilogy will have, it's too early to reboot the prequels, i say just go on with this new trilogy and continue Lucas's universe
Eh trust me, I don't think the gaining of fans with the prequels were near that of the OT. Most people that saw them were already fans, comic book films have become more of this generations thing then Star Wars was for mine, and the generation before.

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Eh trust me, I don't think the gaining of fans with the prequels were near that of the OT. Most people that saw them were already fans, comic book films have become more of this generations thing then Star Wars was for mine, and the generation before.
Eh trust me, i became a fan because of Episode III
The Clone Wars is getting young fans and is going to influence them to watch the upcoming trilogy, the old audience is allways back but each trilogy also brings a new generation of fans.

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Eh trust me, i became a fan because of Episode III
The Clone Wars is getting young fans and is going to influence them to watch the upcoming trilogy, the old audience is allways back but each trilogy also brings a new generation of fans.
I'm sure some did, but it was not the legacy that the first ones were. Sorry. LOTR and TDK were the defining legacies of this decade not Star Wars.

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^ Maybe Lotr but TDK simply doesn't represent such a singular event film or influence. It is just a very succesful part of an overall trend of superhero films.

Then of course there the Harry Potter Franchise which arguably made more of an impact than either film series across more areas of the media.

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Harry Potter yes, but TDK reached into society more so then most movies. Whether some like to admit it or not, people loved Heath as the Joker, his iconic performance was something that people will never forget. So disagree. It was the one that really seemed to stick out last decade.

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With the title of Episode 7, it should be obvious that Disney plans for these movies to take place after ROTJ. Of course, that's a good thing.

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With the title of Episode 7, it should be obvious that Disney plans for these movies to take place after ROTJ. Of course, that's a good thing.
Totally agree. Sometimes I think they should have just continued the story after ROTJ instead of going back and ruined Darth Vader's origin. His character and past was better left shrouded in some mystery. Even if the origin hadn't sucked (and oh boy, did it ever) I still think the character loses something when you know his entire backstory.

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Yeah if its episode 7 then they have to have Luke in it....it would be a crime if he wasn't. Have him be the Ben Kenobi of this trilogy.

But they must not have Sith in this trilogy.....that would defeat the whole point of the Chosen One. Since Luke is older it would be nice if they make it seem that the period between ROTJ and Episode 7 was all peace times. The galaxy went through a lot with the Empire and there should of been peace in the galaxy for a least some time....until whatever the new threat would be.

I haven't read much of the books but something different like that Vuuzh stuff (not sure how you spell it) at least they are something different then the empire.

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Totally agree. Sometimes I think they should have just continued the story after ROTJ instead of going back and ruined Darth Vader's origin. His character and past was better left shrouded in some mystery. Even if the origin hadn't sucked (and oh boy, did it ever) I still think the character loses something when you know his entire backstory.

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This is really their chance to introduce some more Bounty Hunters into the mix as well. They're way more badass than what was shown in the movies.

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Well, the CW is EU, but its ona different tier. What I mean is this:

Star Wars Canons:
G-canon: Geroge Lucas films canon. The be-all, end-all official. This of course probably changes with Disney in charge, but you get the point.
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C-canon: All EU that is considered currently in continuity. If Lucas/Disney decides to overwrite something, they can and it sup to the authors/fans to sort out the inconsistencies.

Pretty good overall description here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

There was a timenot so long ago when I was against ever overwriting the EU. I still hate the idea that a lot of authors put a lot of work into the novels and games and such, and to have it swept under the rug is kind of like punching them in the gut. However, I couldn't keep following EU after events such as Gianakin has spoilered, exception being video games, so if they decide to go a different direction than the EU, frankly I am all for it. I do hope they keep the base continuity. Like Joss Whedon tweeted earlier, I would love to actually see a Yuuzhan Vong invasion, but I'd like to see a lot of changes done. If they use the Solo kids I know a major change that could be done.

tl;dr , I enjoy the EU mostly, but I don't want them to be held back by what has been established. The Clone Wars series obviously wasn't.
Um, last I heard the CW animated series 2D and the new 3D are canon. When I was at the SDCC the CW producers were asked many times if the new CW animated shows were canon and they said yes. They stated Lucas was approving stories and it was/is going to be SW canon. Not EU.

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