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Old 11-12-2012, 04:24 PM   #101
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How are they going to do that? Darth Vader will rise from the ashes to fight a last battle for his family a la the dead army in Return of the King?

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Old 11-12-2012, 04:32 PM   #102
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Bringing back Darth Vader is so silly. It cheapens everything that has happened, even more so than what the Prequels did believe it or not! It screams fan-service and self-indulgence is something this series doesn't need right now..

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Old 11-12-2012, 04:34 PM   #103
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Maybe there's a clone lying around somewhere. But I hope it's not true. Vader isn't the only villain material. Though it would be cool to see Vader in action with today's fight sequences and special effects.

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Old 11-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #104
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Though the EU can easily been wiped out, we have already seen characters resurrected into a clone body (Emperor), we have already an impostor wear a popular characters outfit (Boba Fett in the Marvel comics), and we have seen a popular character survive certain death (Maul). It would be really nice if they can come up with something new that yet still fits in with the previous six films.

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Old 11-12-2012, 05:03 PM   #105
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Vader wasn't even the main villain to begin with, the big bad was allways Palpatine

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Old 11-12-2012, 05:45 PM   #106
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I dont want clone crap in this flick

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Old 11-12-2012, 05:47 PM   #107
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again, it'll be indulgent fan-service if clones are involved.

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:01 PM   #108
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The original films felt a lot more "grounded". Sure, you had the force, but it was a mystical thing.

In the prequel films, all you had was Jedis, the force, prophecies, etc. I can't imagine characters like Han Solo existing in the prequel films.

They need to strike a good balance like the first films, of mysticism / fantasy and old school sci fi.

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Old 11-12-2012, 08:52 PM   #109
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They might bring Vader back for a Spin-Off Movie but not for 7-9,this would be a very bad Joke.

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:49 PM   #110
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I think the Son Of Darth Maul would be more interesting.

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:58 PM   #111
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Heck, Darth Maul would be more interesting.

I would rather see Darth Maul and Boba Fett return than Vader.

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Old 11-12-2012, 10:29 PM   #112
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Given the fact that Anakin seemed obsessed with cheating death it would make sense for him to have a clone lying around. The question is who is the person who digs up this clone and for what purpose?

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Old 11-12-2012, 11:38 PM   #113
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As much a sI hate to admit, Vader did have some impressive cloning facilities on and off Kamino in TFUII (even if it was a crappy game compared to the first)

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Old 11-13-2012, 02:06 AM   #114
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That... sounds like Zahn's stuff in the Thrawn trilogy. It's fan service, but I won't write it off as a terrible idea just yet.

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:22 PM   #115
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Vader should not return as a main character. Maybe he can have a part as, like a nightmare or a ghost or something. But Anakin Skywalker walking up from the ashes and deciding he's gonna be evil again, especially after 3 movies trying to explain that he was sort of a well meaning dumb jerk who got caught up in a conspiracy, would be the single cheesiest moment in Star Wars. You don't even need him to justify merchandise, since 2015 will also see A New Hope 3D in February.

My brother joked that maybe Vader's hollow Armor could carry on somehow, like Soul Calibur's Nightmare. My sister said maybe Vader can be one of the good guys, now. I hope Disney's reading this.

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:31 PM   #116
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Luke did Don the armor for Dark Empire Comic set 10 years after ROTJ

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:32 PM   #117
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Didn't it get burned though? Did he make a new one?

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:50 PM   #118
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Dont know..that was like 15 years ago. I never read much EU comics but that cover with the armor on was awesome.



Crap...almost 20 years ago!

I was also thinking it would make more sense if a Luke clone was running around not Vader. Maybe Papaltine cloned him or even Vader himself if he could not be turned in ROTJ... and some new Sith has him as a padawan. I say this becuase Vader's betrayal (of paps) clearly did not seem planned.

If this were done I'd keep him masked for like at least 1.75 movies then do a digital young Hamill ala Tron:Legacy.

I'm not saying it's a great idea..but I'd rather see that becuase it would make more logical sense.

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Old 11-14-2012, 02:10 AM   #119
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The armor can be rebuilt, it's no big deal. It's an evil spin on a medical design, nothing more. But the context would be everything.

Obviously a nightmare/vision/apparation would be easy to do. But an actual appearance by Darth Vader aka fallen Anakin? That's really hard to do.

And I don't want a "new hope" character to fight a Vader clone as a videogame-like boss to get somewhere (again, a la Thrawn trilogy).

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Old 11-14-2012, 11:25 AM   #120
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No Darth vader.This is a new trilogy no need to retread I want something new a new legacy

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Old 11-14-2012, 11:51 AM   #121
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No to Darth Vader, no to a Darth Vader clone.

Yes, however, to an attempt by a character, for good or for evil, trying to re-create the process that originally resurrected Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader on another character, with predictably disastrous results. Maybe a lovesick man trying to keep his wife or girlfriend alive, and he creates a monster in the process?

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Old 11-14-2012, 12:10 PM   #122
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This rumor originated in a British tabloid, guys. It's not going to happen. They also said Cher would be Catwoman in TDKR, and how did that turn out?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...tman-film.html

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:44 PM   #123
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No way to Vader (or god forbid a Vader clone). His story has been told.

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Old 11-14-2012, 02:25 PM   #124
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Yeah, no Darth Vader in this movie.


Chad Vader on the other hand...

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This rumor originated in a British tabloid, guys. It's not going to happen. They also said Cher would be Catwoman in TDKR, and how did that turn out?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...tman-film.html
You know how hectic Nolan's process is: he probably switched out Depp/Riddler for Hardy/Bane, and Cher was probably too busy to be in it

I'd still not be surprised if Vader showed up, as he's easy merch. But if he'd show in he's more likely to be shown in flashbacks or dreams than as a main attraction. Certainly not as a revived Anakin.


I think the idea of a robot army would be great, if they hadn't spent 3 movies taking a crap on it.

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