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Old 07-30-2013, 12:34 AM   #276
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No, the franchise to large and diverse to only focus on one small part of it.

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Old 07-30-2013, 12:50 AM   #277
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Yeah the franchise is so large and the fatigue from the general audience is starting to show. If the domestic box-office numbers keep going lower from X3 to Origins to First Class and now to The Wolverine. There's a possibility that would happen after DOFP is released with releasing more spin-off films.

Of course fanboys would try to ignore it just because the budget isn't so huge and at least they saw another X-Men flick.

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Old 07-30-2013, 12:55 AM   #278
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Insulting fans doesn't make your point, it makes you look bad. The reason that FC made less money (it still did well) is that the last two movies sucked. The Wolverine starred a single character and was a different type of movie. There is little evidence of fatigue. Also, other films will be different, so they'll be fresh. And if the budget is manageable, it doesn't need to be a smash hit, that argument makes no sense.

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None of his arguments due.

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Insulting fans doesn't make your point, it makes you look bad. The reason that FC made less money (it still did well) is that the last two movies sucked. The Wolverine starred a single character and was a different type of movie. There is little evidence of fatigue. Also, other films will be different, so they'll be fresh. And if the budget is manageable, it doesn't need to be a smash hit, that argument makes no sense.
Even if X3/Origins were good movies, FC would have still earned less money than the 1st four movies.

And there's a sign for fatigue, when every X-Men movie that they released starting from 2006, earned less at the opening weekend. And take note, every year, the ticket price is increasing.

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And Iron Man 3 earned less money than Avengers. What's your point?

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And Iron Man 3 earned less money than Avengers
Yet Iron Man 3 earned more money than Iron Man 2 and Iron Man.

And Iron Man 3 wasn't a spin-off movie. Its another film from the Iron Man franchise.

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Now you're contradicting yourself, per usual.

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Now you're contradicting yourself, per usual.
How is that contradicting myself?

All X-Men movies are part of 1 category, whether its a film featuring the OT cast, or just Wolverine or the First Class cast, or a X-Force movie or a Deadpool movie, they all fall under the X-Men movies category. Even in this forum, they all fall under the same sub-forum.

But with Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Avengers, Hulk, Guardians of the Galaxy, they fall under their own category despite appearing together in the Avengers movie. There's the Captain America movies, Thor movies, Avenger movies, Iron Man movies. Thats why even if a Hulk movie underperformed, it didn't hurt the films of Thor/Captain/Iron Man/Avengers.

But with X-Men movies, if 1 film underperformed at the box-office or the critics, it would have an effect to the other X-Men films whether its a film featuring the OT cast, FC cast, a Wolverine-centric movie, Deadpool, X-Force, etc..

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Miller: Fox has "5 -10 potential golden franchises" for the X-Men universe.

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already posted, spec, but still cool!

We already know the first 4 franchises,

X-Men
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X-Force

I just cant wait to learn the fifth name. But for that potential new series, we will have to wait for 2019 or something, too much time for that! lol

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Even if X3/Origins were good movies, FC would have still earned less money than the 1st four movies.

And there's a sign for fatigue, when every X-Men movie that they released starting from 2006, earned less at the opening weekend. And take note, every year, the ticket price is increasing.
Not really, i know many that were enchanted by the first 2 film but completelly lost interest with the 3rd film, many will try to use the excuse that only comic book fans really disliked but that is simply not true.

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Old 07-31-2013, 05:51 AM   #290
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Theres not even that much of a gross difference between all the X-Men films. Non of them have reached 500ww. X3 had a bigger budget of at least 50m more then FC plus a more expensive ad campaign. X3 was also marketed as the epic closer after two well received films with an A list roster.

FC was an all new cast, no major seller characters, lower budget, was after two bad X-Films and set in the past. I think it did more then fine considering how X-Men sells. Not every X-Men film is gonna be a 200 million dollar+ epic and there is nothing wrong with that.


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totally agree.

To expect more its to be a bit desilusional. At least for the first movie of a new cast.

Another thing are sequels.

About that, we only can wait to see the sequels to First Class and X-Force. Until now, we can enjoy the journey without acting as Fox producers, because we ARENT Fox. We are just fans that should enjoy the possibilities.

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Old 07-31-2013, 10:07 AM   #292
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Other six franchise for Millar. Generation X, New Mutants, Excalibur, Deadpool solo film, etc.

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Miller: Fox has "5 -10 potential golden franchises" for the X-Men universe.

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What's the "PC complaint...." Oh! Hahahaha

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He also remembers the time X-Men was best selling comic.I can remember the
days when several X Titles were among the top 10 selling comics.

At least here with New Mutants,X-Force,and Excalibur I would have some knowledge of the characters and there could be something In films to excite me.

Hopefully ext year at comic con after hopefully the success of DOFP Fox uses it to announce their next project.

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Old 07-31-2013, 09:30 PM   #295
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Well it is a lot for "potential" franchises.

I wouldn't have a problem with this if movie making isn't that expensive and if its very easy to earn the budget back.

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'X-Men' Writer-Producer Simon Kinberg Re-Ups at Fox (Exclusive)
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Simon Kinberg and his Genre Films banner have signed a new three-year first-look deal at 20th Century Fox.

Kinberg is heavily involved with next summer's X-Men: Days of Future Past and the studio's upcoming Fantastic Four reboot as both writer and producer. The new deal will allow him to expand those franchises into full-blown universes, with the hope of creating for Fox something akin to the Marvel model of interlocking movies.

"I have a lot of ideas on how to built those brands and do what everybody is thinking of these days: Be like Marvel," Kinberg tells The Hollywood Reporter. "I want to be able to build stories over multiple movies."

Kinberg is one of the town's more prolific writer-producers. He's a producer on Cinderella for Disney; worked with Neill Blomkamp on Elysium and now Blomkamp's follow-up, Chappie; and has his hands in the Star Wars universe with a gig writing and producing one of the upcoming movies while also co-creating and exec producing the TV series Star Wars Rebels.

But Kinberg considers Fox his home. He made his first film as a writer at Fox, 2005's Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and his Genre shingle has been based at the studio since 2010. Aditya Sood is president of production and Josh Feldman is director of development. "They've always been incredibly generous with me and trusting me with movies," Kinberg says of Fox. "They treat me like a partner and not an employee."

"Simon is one of the best out there," says 20th Century Fox production president Emma Watts. "We feel very lucky that he calls Fox his home and hope to build our slates together for many years to come."

Kinberg says he doesn't just want to focus on franchises or established brands. The goal is to make original projects or adaptations of works that he believes deserve a wider audience. "There is a special kind of satisfaction on working on a story that no one has ever heard before," he says.

Rust, an adaptation of an Archaia graphic novel, could get the green light next year. Carlos Saldana, who directed Rio, is slated to make his live-action directorial debut on the robot feature, which Kinberg hopes will evoke an Amblin-esque tone.

Also in the works is an adaptation of The Martian, an e-book by Andy Weir, which has Drew Goddard on board to write the script and direct.

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Miller: Fox has "5 -10 potential golden franchises" for the X-Men universe.

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I know that Fox wants a cinematic universe like MCU, but I can't see where FF fits in any of these franchises. I think it will be a case of squeeze square peg into circle hole if Fox wants to force these two properties together.

Btw, what is Millar's job right now, if Kinberg takes over the role that was occupied by Millar?

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I know that Fox wants a cinematic universe like MCU, but I can't see where FF fits in any of these franchises. I think it will be a case of squeeze square peg into circle hole if Fox wants to force these two properties together.

Btw, what is Millar's job right now, if Kinberg takes over the role that was occupied by Millar?
Why? What about the FF makes the incompatible with this universe? Nothing from what I can see.

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X-Men and FF are compatible: both comics have a strong footing in the cosmos of the comics.

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