The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > General Movies > DC Comics Films

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-10-2012, 08:30 PM   #1
Saitou Hajime
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,416
Default Divided WB threatens DC films

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...0,207982.story

Quote:
The turf skirmishes have slowed development of movies based on Warner-owned DC's superheroes such as the Flash at a time when rival Marvel Entertainment is cranking out blockbusters like "The Avengers." Uncertainty about who will run Warner Bros. has stymied the studio from renewing its important deal with finance and producing partner Legendary Pictures. The deal expires at the end of next year.
I was afraid of this. Corporate in-fighting has been one of main hurdles to WB's CBM producing efforts going all the way back to the 90s.

Saitou Hajime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 08:44 PM   #2
Anno_Domini
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,997
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

At least my favorite DC hero got his amazing trilogy, lol.

But...this could definitely mess up Man of Steel 2 even, yes?

Anno_Domini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 08:49 PM   #3
Mace Dolex
Powerful User
 
Mace Dolex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,991
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

So in a nutshell how does this affect future DC superhero movies?

__________________
There are farts that smell bad and then there are farts that smell really bad, if you have one of those real bad smelly ones then that's the first signs of diarrhea.
Mace Dolex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 08:55 PM   #4
Blackman
C'mon Son
 
Blackman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 14,006
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

From my understanding, and Im probably wrong, to make DC film there needs to be some level of collaboration between those 3 departments where the 3 competing suits are working. But since they have a "Screw you! I want the job" mentality, they arent really seeing eye to eye causing them not to collaborate to make the DC films.


...I think. Im not sure

Blackman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 08:56 PM   #5
Jake Cassidy
Side-Kick
 
Jake Cassidy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 14,702
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

They're all ********s.

Jake Cassidy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 09:07 PM   #6
Hypestyle
Side-Kick
 
Hypestyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 5,833
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

there needs to be a DC films independent of the other departments. Get Geoff Johns involved and give him complete autonomy.

PS- I want a new film with Steel in it.

Hypestyle is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 09:13 PM   #7
Mace Dolex
Powerful User
 
Mace Dolex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,991
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Ok let's see an example, Nolan's Batman films were released by WB but what is Legendary Pictures then?

__________________
There are farts that smell bad and then there are farts that smell really bad, if you have one of those real bad smelly ones then that's the first signs of diarrhea.
Mace Dolex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 09:33 PM   #8
HighFivingMF
Welp.
 
HighFivingMF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 13,951
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mace Dolex View Post
Ok let's see an example, Nolan's Batman films were released by WB but what is Legendary Pictures then?
They're another production company that co-produce and co-finance certain movies with WB. Including the Nolan trilogy, Inception, Superman Returns, Man of Steel, Watchmen, The Town, The Hangover Trilogy, Pacific Rim, the new Godzilla, 300, the ____ of the Titans movies. The ones they're involved in usually have better results I think. But Jamie or Show have said the only superheroes they're interested in are Batman and Superman.

__________________
I like Ben Affleck.
HighFivingMF is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 11:01 PM   #9
xeno000
Raining hell from above
 
xeno000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 7,212
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypestyle View Post
there needs to be a DC films independent of the other departments. Get Geoff Johns involved and give him complete autonomy.

PS- I want a new film with Steel in it.

WB already has an independent DC unit called DC Entertainment. They set it up back in 2009 in reaction to the success of Iron Man at Marvel Studios. DCE was supposed to develop DC's comic book properties into films and TV shows and shepherd them into production. It also controls the comic book publishing, as well as animation. Geoff Johns is the creative officer for the unit, and in fact controlled the development of the Green Lantern movie.


DCE hasn't been very effective on the film side, probably due to the nature of WB's power structure and the lack of importance placed on superheroes beyond Batman and Superman. When they've gone beyond those two, they churned out Jonah Hex, Green Lantern and, coming up, Lobo. They don't seem to have a handle on which properties will be most successful and appealing to the audience, and having Johns in charge has not made a difference in that regard.

xeno000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 11:42 PM   #10
The Guard
Side-Kick
 
The Guard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 25,804
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Wow...essentially pitting three power hungry businessman against each other.

Great idea to foster cooperation inside a company.

__________________
Writer and Lyricist of GOTHAM'S KNIGHT: THE BATMAN MUSICAL

And if I'm right
The future's looking bright
A symbol in the skies at night
The Guard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 12:43 AM   #11
Lencho01
Shazoogle! Shazoogle!
 
Lencho01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 15,376
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Wonder what would've happened if Alan Horn was still around.

__________________
I was at some diplomatic party once. Got to talking to this princess who told me that when it came to Superman, I was missing the point. She told me, "His real strength lay in his generous spirit and sense of what's fair." - King Faraday

"
Hes much more of a working class superhero, which is why we ended the whole book with the image of a laboring Superman. Hes Everyman operating on a scifi Paul Bunyan scale." - Grant Morrison

"Self Portrait" By Batman
Lencho01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 01:14 AM   #12
Bruce_Begins
I am still Green Goblin
 
Bruce_Begins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,126
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackman View Post
From my understanding, and Im probably wrong, to make DC film there needs to be some level of collaboration between those 3 departments where the 3 competing suits are working. But since they have a "Screw you! I want the job" mentality, they arent really seeing eye to eye causing them not to collaborate to make the DC films.


...I think. Im not sure
I think that the problem is, each of these execs has a different priorities, for example One may favor DC superhero projects, while other may not think so and want them to make movies like Ocean's Eleven and Hangover, the third one may want to favor Book to screen adaptations like Hobbit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lencho01 View Post
Wonder what would've happened if Alan Horn was still around.
Robinov wanted him out.

__________________

*\S/T*
Bruce_Begins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 01:24 AM   #13
Lencho01
Shazoogle! Shazoogle!
 
Lencho01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 15,376
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce_Begins View Post
Robinov wanted him out.
I know that.

__________________
I was at some diplomatic party once. Got to talking to this princess who told me that when it came to Superman, I was missing the point. She told me, "His real strength lay in his generous spirit and sense of what's fair." - King Faraday

"
Hes much more of a working class superhero, which is why we ended the whole book with the image of a laboring Superman. Hes Everyman operating on a scifi Paul Bunyan scale." - Grant Morrison

"Self Portrait" By Batman
Lencho01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 01:25 AM   #14
echostation
Banned User
 
echostation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,094
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Disney should just buy DC and WB... LOL, that would sort things out

echostation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 01:45 AM   #15
Bruce_Begins
I am still Green Goblin
 
Bruce_Begins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,126
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by echostation View Post
Disney should just buy DC and WB... LOL, that would sort things out
According to Forbes magazine, in year 2011 the net worth of both companies was -

(Figures keep changing each year.)

Time Warner: $ 43 billion.

Disney Corp: $35 billion.

Neither can buy each other.

__________________

*\S/T*
Bruce_Begins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 04:30 AM   #16
BH/HHH
Cavill's Hairychest
 
BH/HHH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Leeds
Posts: 14,839
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

You know what makes me laugh any other film company would love to have DC Co,it's under their belt, they'd be making movies left and right. Yet WBs are useless, they are sitting on a gold mine and as usual ego gets in the way. I wish someone would just buy DC Comics from them.

__________________
MAN OF STEEL


THE GREATEST COMIC BOOK MOVIE OF ALL-TIME
BH/HHH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 04:42 AM   #17
jmc
callin' it like I see it
 
jmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: I come from the land Down Under
Posts: 20,980
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by xeno000 View Post
WB already has an independent DC unit called DC Entertainment. They set it up back in 2009 in reaction to the success of Iron Man at Marvel Studios. DCE was supposed to develop DC's comic book properties into films and TV shows and shepherd them into production. It also controls the comic book publishing, as well as animation. Geoff Johns is the creative officer for the unit, and in fact controlled the development of the Green Lantern movie.


DCE hasn't been very effective on the film side, probably due to the nature of WB's power structure and the lack of importance placed on superheroes beyond Batman and Superman. When they've gone beyond those two, they churned out Jonah Hex, Green Lantern and, coming up, Lobo. They don't seem to have a handle on which properties will be most successful and appealing to the audience, and having Johns in charge has not made a difference in that regard.
So much wrong with this post.

__________________
Celebrating 75 years of Batman saving Gotham City.

Fanboys make excuses, real fans acknowledge screw-ups.

Do me a favour - don't break up my posts into multiple quotes when replying, I won't answer back.
jmc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 05:00 AM   #18
Smashlilman
Ouch!!!!
 
Smashlilman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,815
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by echostation View Post
Disney should just buy DC and WB... LOL, that would sort things out
That's how Monopolies are created son.

__________________
Quote:
What is the most indestructable thing in the avengers? Ironman's suit, Captain America's Shield, or Thor's Hammer? The correct answer is Hulk's Pants

Loki: i have an army
Tony Stark: we have a hulk!
VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:
Smashlilman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 05:11 AM   #19
Airwings
Waves of air
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Scandinavia
Posts: 3,503
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

This confirms what most of us have suspected from the start. Warner Brothers can't handle DC, they don't know what to do with the properties. They act like a newly born baby who doesn't know anything about life, even by looking at all people around them and how they behave in different situations. The baby never learns because it doesn't grow up to a child and later an adult. The baby is stuck in limbo and so is its brain.
This is WB in a nutshell. They can't learn from other studios, because they are blind and deaf when it comes to all the superhero films being made by others. To WB, there have never been made any superhero adaptions before. For them, it's a completely new thing. And like with everything new, there has to be some experiementing and failure before finding the right formula.
Latest Batman franchise was nothing more than a lucky shot, because it had a strong shepperd/leader in Nolan.

Somebody, help WB! Take the weight off their shoulders.

Airwings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 05:29 AM   #20
BH/HHH
Cavill's Hairychest
 
BH/HHH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Leeds
Posts: 14,839
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Airwings View Post
This confirms what most of us have suspected from the start. Warner Brothers can't handle DC, they don't know what to do with the properties. They act like a newly born baby who doesn't know anything about life, even by looking at all people around them and how they behave in different situations. The baby never learns because it doesn't grow up to a child and later an adult. The baby is stuck in limbo and so is its brain.
This is WB in a nutshell. They can't learn from other studios, because they are blind and deaf when it comes to all the superhero films being made by others. To WB, there have never been made any superhero adaptions before. For them, it's a completely new thing. And like with everything new, there has to be some experiementing and failure before finding the right formula.
Latest Batman franchise was nothing more than a lucky shot, because it had a strong shepperd/leader in Nolan.

Somebody, help WB! Take the weight off their shoulders.
Bingo

__________________
MAN OF STEEL


THE GREATEST COMIC BOOK MOVIE OF ALL-TIME
BH/HHH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 05:49 AM   #21
G.Godfrey
Darkseid's Elite
 
G.Godfrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,090
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypestyle View Post
there needs to be a DC films independent of the other departments. Get Geoff Johns involved and give him complete autonomy.
Oh no, hell no!!! Keep Johns away, far away, especially from all things Superman/Batman/JLA.

G.Godfrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 10:07 AM   #22
Anno_Domini
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,997
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Quote:
Originally Posted by Airwings View Post
This confirms what most of us have suspected from the start. Warner Brothers can't handle DC, they don't know what to do with the properties. They act like a newly born baby who doesn't know anything about life, even by looking at all people around them and how they behave in different situations. The baby never learns because it doesn't grow up to a child and later an adult. The baby is stuck in limbo and so is its brain.
This is WB in a nutshell. They can't learn from other studios, because they are blind and deaf when it comes to all the superhero films being made by others. To WB, there have never been made any superhero adaptions before. For them, it's a completely new thing. And like with everything new, there has to be some experiementing and failure before finding the right formula.
Latest Batman franchise was nothing more than a lucky shot, because it had a strong shepperd/leader in Nolan.

Somebody, help WB! Take the weight off their shoulders.
Imo, I really thought they were on the right track at one time when it was mentioned that Christopher Nolan would overlook the DC universe as Whedon is overlooking the MCU now and Mark Millar is tapped to overlook FOX's Marvel universe, but when the Nolan thing became just a rumor, then it definitely feels like Warner Brothers have no idea what they're doing.

Anno_Domini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 10:10 AM   #23
HighFivingMF
Welp.
 
HighFivingMF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 13,951
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

They should get Goyer to oversee it. Have someone else write the scripts, but have Goyer organize. Unless Grant Morrison wants to.

__________________
I like Ben Affleck.
HighFivingMF is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #24
8Diagrams(WU)
Side-Kick
 
8Diagrams(WU)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Slums of Shaolin
Posts: 978
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Comic book movies are just one aspect of many that are WB and its clearly not a priority to them. If Im an exec or board member and see what Disney and Marvel are doing as opposed to what DC and WB are doing then I start asking why are we not doing it too? The business is not running as well as it should/could.

The DC formula is basically already figured out and unique enough that is not a copy of what Disney is doing. Green Lantern doesnt work, Batman and more than likely MOS do. What they need is someone overseeing the whole thing with a good vision and the right talent. Goyer, the Nolans, Snyder, del Toro. Thats a good way to start. They just need to get their **** together from an business point of view and that seems to be the harder part.

8Diagrams(WU) is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 02:41 PM   #25
Joeyjojo72
Side-Kick
 
Joeyjojo72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,670
Default Re: Divided WB threatens DC films

Whedon is pretty much unique. He's a dyed in the wool fanboy who knows the characters and universe backwards and forwards and has had success as a writer, producer/director/showrunner in tv,movies and comic boooks. He and Feige (another fanboy) are a perfect tandem.

There is no DC/WB analog to those guys as far as I know. Johns or Goyer don't really cut it. Morrison is a genius, but he has no real track record outside of comics. Has he ever written a screenplay that was actually produced?


Last edited by Joeyjojo72; 11-11-2012 at 02:45 PM.
Joeyjojo72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:58 PM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.