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Old 11-15-2012, 11:15 AM   #1
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Default Should they base one of the later season arc based on the SuperMax script?

A couple of years ago there was a Green Arrow script called Supermax. It got a lot of great attention on the net. It was basically a movie about Green Arrow framed and sent to a prison with a bunch of supervillians.

I think it could be a great season long arc. Sort of like Prison Break with supervillains.

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I haven't read it but I have heard of it and I always thought it sounded really cool, and it would be interesting if they ever did that on the show.

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Old 11-15-2012, 12:38 PM   #3
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That could be crazy interesting. Hopefully he'd have a protoge that could 'fill in' for him while he was in there. It'd be really epic if that was the end of his secret identity as well, and then he came out all public superheroic when it was over.

The fact that this show can even go there says so much about it. Awesomeness.

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Is his identity known to the public in the comics?

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^I think at some point it was. But I'm pretty sure they've done away with it.

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Old 11-15-2012, 08:36 PM   #6
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Billionaire playboy Oliver Queen, CEO of Queen Industries, returns to Star City after three years stranded on an island in the Pacific Ocean after falling from his yatch during a storm. Changed by his experiences on the island, Oliver and his friend, Queen Industries' attorney Will Hackett, create an arsenal of weapons that Oliver uses to adopt the identity of an urban crimefighter called Green Arrow.

During a beneficent party, Oliver and Hackett are confronted by Oliver's business rival, David Cross, CEO of Cross Enterprises. Meanwhile, professional assassin Arthur Merlyn invades the headquarters of Checkmate, a secret governmental agency created to monitor metahuman activity on Earth, and murders director Colonel Taleb Beni Khalid with copies of Green Arrow's trick arrows.

Oliver hears of a break-in at Checkmate's headquarters and changes into Green Arrow, arriving there only to learn he has been framed for Khalid's murder. The police arrives and eventually captures him. His secret identity is exposed to the public and he is sentenced to life imprisionment at the SuperMax Penitentiary for Metahuman Criminals, run by warden Amanda Waller.

Arriving at the SuperMax, Oliver learns that the inmates are divided in three categories: The Green Suits (average humans with advanced weaponry), the Blue Suits (genius-level humans) and the Orange Suits (superpowered metahumans). The Orange Suits are implanted with the Parallax Device, a microchip that causes pain if they use their powers for more than one minute.

Oliver is designated a Green Suit and befriends Split, a teleporter who explains to him that the SuperMax's layout changes every night to avoid breakout attempts. Waller, an old friend of Khalid, begins to torture Oliver as revenge for Khalid's murder, and punishes him with solitary confinement after he gets into a fight with the Aryan Nation, a trio of superpowered supremacists formed by Iron Cross, Hatemonger and Blacklash.

In solitary, Oliver meets Hartley Rathaway, the Pied Piper, who can control other people through sonic vibration. Rathaway has found a frequency that allows him to use his powers without being detected by the Parallax Device, and together, Oliver and Rathaway decide to escape.

Meanwhile, Cross meets with Hackett, who helped him frame Green Arrow of Khalid's murder so Cross could take over Queen Industries and Hackett could steal Oliver's fortune. They learn that a legal loophole requires that Oliver is dead in order for their plan to continue, so Cross infiltrates Merlyn in the SuperMax with orders to eliminate Oliver.

Oliver and Rathaway deduce that the SuperMax is located in the Pacific Ocean and are forced to enlist the help of other inmates in order to escape: Cameron Mahkent, the Icicle, who can manipulate ice; Gemini De Mille, who can shapeshift; Cascade, who can manipulate water; and Split.

Together, they create a tunnel that'll lead them to freedom. Oliver then arranges for another inmate, Abel Tarrant, the Tattooed Man, to make a Flash Drive for them. He uses it to contain Djinn, a living computer virus, and then gets into a fight with Albert Desmond, the Blockbuster, "king" of the Orange Suits. Reassigned to clean-up duty, Oliver takes the opportunity to upload Djinn into the SuperMax's grid.

Djinn disables the Parallax Devices, leading to a riot. Oliver and his group use this opportunity to escape. Oliver is attacked by Merlyn, who was provided with his weapons by a corrupt security guard, but manages to evade him, and Merlyn is captured by Waller's forces. Blockbuster also learns of their plans and murders Split to take his place in the team.

Oliver, Rathaway, Mahkent, Gemini and Cascade are forced to accept Blockbuster in the team, and they go through the tunnel only to learn that the sky above the SuperMax is a holographic projection, and the prison is actually located in the Artic.

Cascade is murdered by Waller's men, but the other manage to escape and hide in a research center nearby. However, Rathaway learns that it is actually a Checkmate outpost and warns Oliver before being shot by one of the agents and killed. Oliver, Gemini and Mahkent escape in a snowmobile, while Blockbuster attempts to leave them behind and is killed when Waller orders the entire outpost to be destroyed, with the agents still inside.

Oliver, Gemini and Mahkent return to Star City in a freight boat, where Gemini reveals she has a five-year-old daughter, Rouge, that she wants to rescue. Oliver promises to help her.

In Star City, Mahkent leaves, and Oliver and Gemini meet with Hackett, and he informs the police of their location. A SWAT unit interrupts their meeting, and Oliver and Gemini escape to a nearby safe house, where Oliver retrieves his equipment and decides to go after Hackett.

Meanwhile, at the SuperMax, Merlyn is interrogated by Waller, who tortures him into revealing he was hired by Cross and Hackett to frame Green Arrow of murdering Khalid. Waller sends her men to Star City.

Green Arrow attacks Hackett's office, where they fight. Hackett reveals that he attempted to murder Oliver three years prior, leading to Oliver ending up on the island. Oliver is preparing to kill Hackett when Waller's men arrive. He instructs Gemini to escape and spares Hackett, surrendering to Waller's forces.

Hackett visits Oliver at the SuperMax and confirms his participation in the plan, believing all evidence of it to be destroyed, but Oliver reveals that Gemini stole copies of their plans from Cross and leaked them to the press.

Hackett is arrested by the FBI, while Oliver is released. He exposes Waller's crimes, including the violation of the inmates' human rights and a series of needless murders, and Waller is fired from the government, while Cross commits suicide to avoid being arrested.

Gemini is forced to turn herself in once more and complete her sentence at the SuperMax, but Oliver arranges for it to be reduced due to her contribuition to clear his name, and reveals that he has adopted Rouge and is proving her with a good life while Gemini is in prison.

Oliver and Gemini kiss before Oliver returns to Star City with Rouge and resumes his activities as Green Arrow.


I don't think it'd fit the tone of the show. Perhaps it'd be better if Oliver was forced into the Suicide Squad.

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:38 AM   #7
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I'm all for it. The idea is terrific and I really enjoyed the script. I really hope that this is an arc on the show.

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Old 11-16-2012, 05:25 PM   #8
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I'm for it but I think they should save that type of story for the last season of the show. Then they could introduce us to a new villain / ally every week.

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Old 11-16-2012, 05:26 PM   #9
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I mentioned this before in another thread I'd love a season or half season stry arc based on this concept. Infact an idea I had was to do it as a theatrical film once the show had ended but unfortunately I don't think that'll ever happen. But if the were to adapt it for the show they could do it without the super powered beings and just have it as a high security prison, maybe set up by a secret organisation so Ollie doesn't have to reveal his secret identity to the whole world.

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No I think the identity should come out. Cause then they can either continue the series or end the show but either way show how Ollie is dealing with people knowing.

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Old 11-16-2012, 05:43 PM   #11
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Billionaire playboy Oliver Queen, CEO of Queen Industries, returns to Star City after three years stranded on an island in the Pacific Ocean after falling from his yatch during a storm. Changed by his experiences on the island, Oliver and his friend, Queen Industries' attorney Will Hackett, create an arsenal of weapons that Oliver uses to adopt the identity of an urban crimefighter called Green Arrow.

During a beneficent party, Oliver and Hackett are confronted by Oliver's business rival, David Cross, CEO of Cross Enterprises. Meanwhile, professional assassin Arthur Merlyn invades the headquarters of Checkmate, a secret governmental agency created to monitor metahuman activity on Earth, and murders director Colonel Taleb Beni Khalid with copies of Green Arrow's trick arrows.

Oliver hears of a break-in at Checkmate's headquarters and changes into Green Arrow, arriving there only to learn he has been framed for Khalid's murder. The police arrives and eventually captures him. His secret identity is exposed to the public and he is sentenced to life imprisionment at the SuperMax Penitentiary for Metahuman Criminals, run by warden Amanda Waller.

Arriving at the SuperMax, Oliver learns that the inmates are divided in three categories: The Green Suits (average humans with advanced weaponry), the Blue Suits (genius-level humans) and the Orange Suits (superpowered metahumans). The Orange Suits are implanted with the Parallax Device, a microchip that causes pain if they use their powers for more than one minute.

Oliver is designated a Green Suit and befriends Split, a teleporter who explains to him that the SuperMax's layout changes every night to avoid breakout attempts. Waller, an old friend of Khalid, begins to torture Oliver as revenge for Khalid's murder, and punishes him with solitary confinement after he gets into a fight with the Aryan Nation, a trio of superpowered supremacists formed by Iron Cross, Hatemonger and Blacklash.

In solitary, Oliver meets Hartley Rathaway, the Pied Piper, who can control other people through sonic vibration. Rathaway has found a frequency that allows him to use his powers without being detected by the Parallax Device, and together, Oliver and Rathaway decide to escape.

Meanwhile, Cross meets with Hackett, who helped him frame Green Arrow of Khalid's murder so Cross could take over Queen Industries and Hackett could steal Oliver's fortune. They learn that a legal loophole requires that Oliver is dead in order for their plan to continue, so Cross infiltrates Merlyn in the SuperMax with orders to eliminate Oliver.

Oliver and Rathaway deduce that the SuperMax is located in the Pacific Ocean and are forced to enlist the help of other inmates in order to escape: Cameron Mahkent, the Icicle, who can manipulate ice; Gemini De Mille, who can shapeshift; Cascade, who can manipulate water; and Split.

Together, they create a tunnel that'll lead them to freedom. Oliver then arranges for another inmate, Abel Tarrant, the Tattooed Man, to make a Flash Drive for them. He uses it to contain Djinn, a living computer virus, and then gets into a fight with Albert Desmond, the Blockbuster, "king" of the Orange Suits. Reassigned to clean-up duty, Oliver takes the opportunity to upload Djinn into the SuperMax's grid.

Djinn disables the Parallax Devices, leading to a riot. Oliver and his group use this opportunity to escape. Oliver is attacked by Merlyn, who was provided with his weapons by a corrupt security guard, but manages to evade him, and Merlyn is captured by Waller's forces. Blockbuster also learns of their plans and murders Split to take his place in the team.

Oliver, Rathaway, Mahkent, Gemini and Cascade are forced to accept Blockbuster in the team, and they go through the tunnel only to learn that the sky above the SuperMax is a holographic projection, and the prison is actually located in the Artic.

Cascade is murdered by Waller's men, but the other manage to escape and hide in a research center nearby. However, Rathaway learns that it is actually a Checkmate outpost and warns Oliver before being shot by one of the agents and killed. Oliver, Gemini and Mahkent escape in a snowmobile, while Blockbuster attempts to leave them behind and is killed when Waller orders the entire outpost to be destroyed, with the agents still inside.

Oliver, Gemini and Mahkent return to Star City in a freight boat, where Gemini reveals she has a five-year-old daughter, Rouge, that she wants to rescue. Oliver promises to help her.

In Star City, Mahkent leaves, and Oliver and Gemini meet with Hackett, and he informs the police of their location. A SWAT unit interrupts their meeting, and Oliver and Gemini escape to a nearby safe house, where Oliver retrieves his equipment and decides to go after Hackett.

Meanwhile, at the SuperMax, Merlyn is interrogated by Waller, who tortures him into revealing he was hired by Cross and Hackett to frame Green Arrow of murdering Khalid. Waller sends her men to Star City.

Green Arrow attacks Hackett's office, where they fight. Hackett reveals that he attempted to murder Oliver three years prior, leading to Oliver ending up on the island. Oliver is preparing to kill Hackett when Waller's men arrive. He instructs Gemini to escape and spares Hackett, surrendering to Waller's forces.

Hackett visits Oliver at the SuperMax and confirms his participation in the plan, believing all evidence of it to be destroyed, but Oliver reveals that Gemini stole copies of their plans from Cross and leaked them to the press.

Hackett is arrested by the FBI, while Oliver is released. He exposes Waller's crimes, including the violation of the inmates' human rights and a series of needless murders, and Waller is fired from the government, while Cross commits suicide to avoid being arrested.

Gemini is forced to turn herself in once more and complete her sentence at the SuperMax, but Oliver arranges for it to be reduced due to her contribuition to clear his name, and reveals that he has adopted Rouge and is proving her with a good life while Gemini is in prison.

Oliver and Gemini kiss before Oliver returns to Star City with Rouge and resumes his activities as Green Arrow.


I don't think it'd fit the tone of the show. Perhaps it'd be better if Oliver was forced into the Suicide Squad.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:01 PM   #12
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Maybe for a couple of episodes, but not a whole season. I think it could bore the audience if they wouldn't see Arrow out in the streets for a whole season.

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Technically,

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The Island flashbacks could almost serve as a Supermax story. It was revealed that the Island used to be a penal colony. They've also revealed that Deathstroke used to be an inmate. I think it wouldnt be too crazy for the Producers to shoe-horn other supervillains as former inmates of the island.


Then again, I'm all for a couple of episodes where Ollie has to survive in prison. I don't think they'll include metahumans in the show, so it doesnt necessarily have to be a supervillain prison.

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I don't know if they'll ever do that as a show but I'd love to read a limited series or story arc in the comic with that plot.

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No I think the identity should come out. Cause then they can either continue the series or end the show but either way show how Ollie is dealing with people knowing.
He'd end up in jail, you know because of all the people he killed in a premeditated manner.

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He'd end up in jail, you know because of all the people he killed in a premeditated manner.
He's super rich, though. He can probably get it knocked-back to manslaughter.

Also I think they were retconning it to that he was "putting them in the hospital" from what Detective Lance was saying. I mean yeah he clearly shot several of them directly in the chest which would kill them but I guess they might be going with comic book physics...

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I don't know anything about the SuperMax movie, but I would say no because there could always be the possibility of a Green Arrow movie. Similar to how there was a Batman cartoon and a Batman movie or better yet Smallville and the Superman movie and Superman cartoon, there could be Arrow and the Green Arrow movie.

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It would be a cool idea. The supermax was the worst piece of ostentatious **** ever, but if they rework the premise into a superpowerless prison thriller, it would fit the more grittier tone of the show.

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I think it'd be a great way to end Season 2. By that point, Green Arrow should have enough villains lined up in there for it and The List plot will be done.

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I think it'd be a great way to end Season 2. By that point, Green Arrow should have enough villains lined up in there for it and The List plot will be done.
I say give it another season. I don't think they have developed the character enough yet.

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Going to sound daft but what was the plot of SuperMax again? Specifically, what's the appeal of it?

If it's just the idea of Oliver trying to escape from prison, don't the Island flashbacks already have this covered?

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In a way, the island flashbacks are the Supermax storyline.

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SuperMax has now been set up and there's no way it's a coincidence. We might not get to it for another couple seasons as the prison continues to collect more villains but they've basically laid the foundation.

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