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Old 11-01-2005, 04:28 AM   #1
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im just wondering, since we're anticipating the presence of Harvey Dent on the next film, WHERE IS HARVEY DENT during the events of BATMAN BEGINS?

what do u think are the reasons that would be, or SHOULD be stated in the sequel for his absence in BB?

# my guess would be that he practiced law in another state, and also like Batman, he has come back to Gotham because he felt that Gotham needed a decent brilliant lawyer like him. may i also assume that Bruce, harvey, & Rachel were friends in their youth....


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Old 11-01-2005, 06:34 AM   #2
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perhaps because he moves to gotham to replace the guy who was killed in the first movie..

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Old 11-01-2005, 06:47 AM   #3
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I'm thinking he comes to Gotham to replace D.A. Finch but Rachel gets the job first. Harvey gets jelous/upset when rachel blows a big case and he kills her. Then later on, we find out it was him that killed her and bat's gets pissed.

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:39 AM   #4
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I doubt it. Harvey Dent, despite his inner demons, is a good guy. It's not until he becomes Two-Face that he turns to crime. That's the tragedy of his character.

I say that he is a hotshot lawyer from New York who gets brought into Gotham to replace Finch. Dawes, who was acting as DA during the crisis, gets demoted back to Assistant DA, leading to a rivalry of sorts between the two.

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:45 AM   #5
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Yeah he is not from GOtham City and will proably not be in the movies...

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:48 AM   #6
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Yeah he is not from GOtham City and will proably not be in the movies...
he is in the 2nd movie.

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:52 AM   #7
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Really from what is the evidence that he will be from GOtham in the Sequel....

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:57 AM   #8
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Goyer said himself that Harvey Dent will be in it that's been on for months if you don't believe me check what he said.

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Thanks... I do believe you.

I think a guy called Two Face knows "a little" about Harvey Dent.

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Old 11-01-2005, 09:03 AM   #10
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He should just be transferred from another city, and could be the new DA, bumping Rachel back to Assistant DA. Also, make him a friend to Batman, not Bruce Wayne. In fact, make as little interaction between the Bruce Wayne persona and Harvey as possible, but have Batman, Gordon, and Dent make their agreement on the rooftop like they did in TLH.

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Old 11-01-2005, 11:13 AM   #12
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yes that is exactly what i was thinking

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Old 11-01-2005, 11:30 AM   #13
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He could have been Executive DA, which is just one step down from DA.

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:33 PM   #14
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I like the idea of Dent being the "New guy from Washngton" or something, an outsider to Gotham, as Bruce was in Begins

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:08 PM   #15
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im just wondering, since we're anticipating the presence of Harvey Dent on the next film, WHERE IS HARVEY DENT during the events of BATMAN BEGINS?

what do u think are the reasons that would be, or SHOULD be stated in the sequel for his absence in BB?

# my guess would be that he practiced law in another state, and also like Batman, he has come back to Gotham because he felt that Gotham needed a decent brilliant lawyer like him. may i also assume that Bruce, harvey, & Rachel were friends in their youth....


im sorry if somebody has started this thread & raised this Q already, if so, dear moderators, feel free to close it down &/or point me to a url of d thread. thanks!
Dude has to eat and that requires a job. Plus if he is an attorney I'm sure he heard there is a position open in the D.A.'s office.

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:10 PM   #16
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I like the idea of Dent being the "New guy from Washngton" or something, an outsider to Gotham, as Bruce was in Begins
Another way to go is the fact that because a District Attorney is an elected position, Harvey was already in gotham, but either a Legal Aid attorney or in private practice. So we could open the sequel with the newly elected gotham county distrcit attorney Harvey Dent.

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Old 11-01-2005, 02:31 PM   #17
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I thought Bruce and Dent were supposed to be old Princeton buddies? Or am I wrong? Never read a lot into Dent/Two-Face... I was mainly a Joker fan myself... (Excuse this if it seems stupid)

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Old 11-01-2005, 03:44 PM   #18
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I thought Bruce and Dent were supposed to be old Princeton buddies? Or am I wrong? Never read a lot into Dent/Two-Face... I was mainly a Joker fan myself... (Excuse this if it seems stupid)
Thank G-d that Bruce went to Princeton and not Gotham University. I'm sure Gotham would have a college but people like Bruce are meant only for the Ivy League.

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Old 11-02-2005, 12:04 PM   #19
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I thought Bruce and Dent were supposed to be old Princeton buddies? Or am I wrong? Never read a lot into Dent/Two-Face... I was mainly a Joker fan myself... (Excuse this if it seems stupid)
yep. im pretty sure that they must be old friends from WAY back, since they were in their youth. it would be kind of questionable for Bruce to have come to know of Harvey Dent AFTER the events of BB. Being Batman, wouldnt you think that he minimizes his up-close relationships from that time on?

After BB, Bruce would be extra careful & would always have his "socialite mask" on. any friendship he establishes from that point would not be as close as the kind of friendship one acquires back in his youthful days, in his more innocent & honest days.

the way i see it, when he became Batman, Bruce Wayne has now become the MASK & the real Bruce Wayne has already evolved into the Batman.

Likewise, if Harvey was such a decent guy, he would not consider this bigtime rich brat-ish Jerk Bruce Wayne as somebody he could trust as a friend. Not unless he'd have known him from way back.

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Old 11-02-2005, 09:14 PM   #20
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yep. im pretty sure that they must be old friends from WAY back, since they were in their youth. it would be kind of questionable for Bruce to have come to know of Harvey Dent AFTER the events of BB. Being Batman, wouldnt you think that he minimizes his up-close relationships from that time on?

After BB, Bruce would be extra careful & would always have his "socialite mask" on. any friendship he establishes from that point would not be as close as the kind of friendship one acquires back in his youthful days, in his more innocent & honest days.

the way i see it, when he became Batman, Bruce Wayne has now become the MASK & the real Bruce Wayne has already evolved into the Batman.

Likewise, if Harvey was such a decent guy, he would not consider this bigtime rich brat-ish Jerk Bruce Wayne as somebody he could trust as a friend. Not unless he'd have known him from way back.
Alright, thanks for clearing that up. But I think my reason would be that, um, Maybe he just wasn't around. If you ask me, Nolan doesn't really have to answer the question of why Dent wasn't around to begin with. Characters come and go in movies, it's normal. But if he decides to give us a reason, I would say that TripXyDE has hit the nail right on the head. Sounds good to me either way!

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Old 11-02-2005, 09:30 PM   #21
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See, this is why Dent should have been in BATMAN BEGINS.

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Old 11-03-2005, 02:02 AM   #22
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See, this is why Dent should have been in BATMAN BEGINS.
Yet again, another thing I agree with. Wouldn't it be so sweet if we actually saw Dent in the movie and didn't even know it? If you watch the part where Crane is chatting with the board about having Mr. Zasz moved into Arkham, there is a guy in the background who looks A LOT like Guy Pearce. I noticed this the first time I saw Batman Begins in the Theater and just said No way, then kept watching. Didn't even remember that until now...

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im just wondering, since we're anticipating the presence of Harvey Dent on the next film, WHERE IS HARVEY DENT during the events of BATMAN BEGINS?

what do u think are the reasons that would be, or SHOULD be stated in the sequel for his absence in BB?

# my guess would be that he practiced law in another state, and also like Batman, he has come back to Gotham because he felt that Gotham needed a decent brilliant lawyer like him. may i also assume that Bruce, harvey, & Rachel were friends in their youth....


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Thats a cool idea about having Bruce know Dent when they were younger. Mabey they could of been buddies back when Bruce when to Princeton collage.

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He should just be transferred from another city, and could be the new DA, bumping Rachel back to Assistant DA. Also, make him a friend to Batman, not Bruce Wayne. In fact, make as little interaction between the Bruce Wayne persona and Harvey as possible, but have Batman, Gordon, and Dent make their agreement on the rooftop like they did in TLH.
I agree with alot of what you said except the part about Harvey not being a friend of Bruce's. I think Harvey should be a good friend to Bruce while having a slight distrust for Batman which would intensify and turn to hatred once Harvey becomes Two-Face. Batman would be torn between bringing Two-Face to justice and trying to save his good friend Harvey Dent. That would make for a more complex and emotionally driven story.


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Old 11-05-2005, 02:22 PM   #25
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oops I mean I know that Harvey Dent will be in the Sequel. But the question is wheter he will be from GOtham City. Of course I know...

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