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People need to get animated series out of heads.Bishop and Cable have nothing to do with days of future past.
Days of future past Is different than past X-men films.You have 2 timelines.That's cast of both first Class and trilogy to service.We had reports after Bryan took over as director of a substanal number of original trilogy actors would be In this.I am betting on 3 or possable 4 joining Patrick Stewert,Ian Mckellen,and Hugh Jackman.While we will defently spend more screentime In past than fuutre I am betting at least 30 minutes of screentime Is spent In future.And besids getting original trilogy vets you also have Sentinles. I strongly believe Bryan will not want to reference the Last Stand.If someone were to directly ask them about Xavier they would likely use In Interviews for press or on DVD/Bluray the Xavier's mind Is In twin brother's body but never refernce It on screen.And the time travel may wipe out events of Last Stand by end of film. Another possabilty Is them treating Days of fuutre as pure prequel to trilogy and have events there help bring about the events of trilogy.The future Is alternate timeline that happened when the assassination the brotherhood actully suceed and fuutre Is completly alternate from trilogy.Thus what happened to Xavier In Last Stand Is Ilrelvent and Bryan could have Cyclops or Jean or both In future.Thus when X-Men prevent the assassination that leads to events of trilogy+The Wolverine.Bryan has talked about connecting dots between films,and that would do It. |
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Let's think about this logically though...
If you're thinking this will reference Last Stand, what year are you envisioning the 'future' to be set in?
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Actually, you know what would be cool? Wasn't it Senator Kelly who gets assassinated in the comics? It'd be cool if they have to rewrite that part of history and STOP him from getting killed in order to prevent the worst tragedy to ever befall mankind.... The Last Stand... I mean, the sentinels...
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So yeah, I wouldnt keep anyone out yet.
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Now If Xavier and Magneto are same age as Patrick and Ian we are looking at future being alternate version of 2000's. Now the question would be will 1:This future came to being post trilogy+The Wolverine.And the seeds for It can be traced to assassination the brotherhood comitted that might have caused public to be aware of mutants.Thus the time travel plot Is to do away with the seeds of It.Thus by end of film both Origins and Last Stand may be erased by time travel but X-Men and X2+to large extent The Wolverine remains 2:This future Is completly alternate and comes into being because of the assassination.The time travel Is to prevent the assassination and thus because of efforts the other X-Men films come Into being(well maybe not oriigns) Bryan's quotes of COnnectivity between films and connecting dots between films strongly suggest some connection between first Class and trilogy.Also the X-Men meets terminator quote from mark Millar Is clue. As much as both Hugh Jackman and James mangold have gone on and on about how The Wolverine Is set post the Last Stand It's unlikely that Bryan Is going to pull an immedate Superman returns(or what he was planning with battlestar Galactica revival to galactica 1980) but he might use time travel to help do away with Last Stand and origins. Last edited by marvelrobbins; 01-09-2013 at 08:56 AM. |
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Not just how many will appear in DoFP, but whether they are planning an X4 with more of them in. And also how many more films we could expect to see with Famke, Halle, James Marsden, Rebecca Romijn, Alan Cumming, Daniel Cudmore, etc. It's not at all obvious which direction the films will go in after DoFP.
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I'd say X4 with all the original cast is probably wishful thinking.
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So I think a X4 is possibly one of them. I doubt Fox and Millar has only thought about FC sequels and new spin-offs. They probably has something in store but are waiting for DOFP impact to decide which team movie to do next
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Well I can't see them banking too much hope on 7 more years of movies with a group of actors who are appearing older and older and probably aren't the keenest for a 7 year contract.
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well, if want it, Fox could shoot two sequels back to back with the whole cast as the final goodbye of the original cast, and then to release it in different years, like Warner is doing with the Hobbit.
I think Hugh, Halle and James would still look great as the characters, so there's no problem here. And Im sure both Halle and James would agree to it. Its all on Fox decision, as always.
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The original comic version of DOFP had older versions of Wolverine,Kitty,Storm,Colossus,and Magneto+Franklin Richards grown up.And then add rachel.Animated versions had almost all familar characters dead.So let's proceed logicil here.I think odds are 3 others will join Xavier,magneto,and Wolverine.Also they might do their first FF crossover by having adult version of Franklin Richards as well.If we assume based on The Wolverine Comments that leaves out Cyclops and Jean who does that leave us
1:Rogue Is very likely.Considering Anna Paquin's good relationship with Bryan Singer.The fact Rogue has filled the kitty role In X-Men/X2.Bryan may want to call back the close relationship between Wolverine and Rogue.What better way than having them having to free other survivors from Internment camp.Now they would have to find a way to work with her true Blood schedule.But reports had a shorter season order than usual.And this could mean Rogue Isn't time traveler but stays In future scene.Now If they had In Script Rogue as time Traveler and there Is no way to work with Anna's schedule they might try to subsitute Kitty for Rogue.Now comes question can they even get Ellen Page to come back. 2:With Cyclops and Jean most likely out that probally means we can expect Storm so Wolverine won't be only adult X-Man from trilogy to be In future 3 ue to both Rebecca Romijn's good relationship with Bryan and Mystique's role In series Mystique will likely be last to make cut.And this way they can have another character In both timeframes.Untill anouncements are made on more cast we can only speculate.But having 6 returing characters from trilogy In future seems like the way they will go,and It would fit the subsantal number of original trilogy actors report we got. |
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I have a feeling we will see - somehow and at some point - see Wolverine founding a Jean Grey School of Higher Learning and training a whole new roster of mutant teens. But that doesn't offer much hope to fans who want to see Famke and James back as Jean/Phoenix and Cyclops.
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having introduced characters like Rogue, Beast, Nightcrawler, Kitty, Colossus, Iceman, Angel, Gambit, and even Storm and Wolverine, at least me wont miss Jean, lol.
with Cyclops, they could find a way to get him back, and Scott fans will really appreciate it, for sure. so it would be a smart move by Fox. Im 100% sure that Fox could handle a X4 easily. This could be the very last movie to Hugh and Halle in case they dont want to do more, but the franchise definetly has potential to keep moving, as xmaniac suggests.
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It wouldn't shock me If next film after DOFP Is totally with original cast but after that they work on more prequels and present day spinoffs.You could have Indivual cast OT actors In spinoffs like Wolverine In X-Force,Xavier In New Mutants,Colossus In Deadpool.Maybe another Wolverine solo film.You could give first class cast a bit more time so third film could jump to late 1970's and Introduce teenage Cyclops and Teenage Jean In story focusing on them. |
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That is my feeling as well. If there is a plan to use Jean, Scott etc. I think it's likeliest that the studio will look for younger actors rather than going back to the original cast.
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By the end of this film they got to have Cyclops back and ready to lead somehow, recast or whatever. Going this long without Summers as a leader in an X Men film is inexcusable.
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kind of agree.
And dont understand how some fans have the impression we want exactly the same cast as X1-X2 to continue this franchise. As long as we have Cyclpos back to lead, as you say, and they get back all the younger actors more Halle and Hugh, what more do we need? We dont need to have Ian, Patrick and Famke on every x-men movie set in present. They have had a pretty solid presence on the franchise to date, so its time to keep moving with the other actors, they have a large cast to do it, so.... Where's the real problem? Marvel is going for more Avengers sequels, so.... dont you all think Fox will want the same with their cast?
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I can see an X4 with the orignal cast on the cards. There is still major storylines that they haven't touched on yet and ones that couldn't work with the First Class era.
Mutant Massacre House of M Fatal attractions to name a few but the biggest storyline that still hasn't been done is Age of Apocalypse. I mentioned before and Angamb mentioned it again but they should do an X4 and X5 filmed back to back as the final chapter with the original cast before moving on to new fresh X-Men faces. It should be the AoA storyline perfect way to end the series with the X-Men's biggest threat ever. P.S. to those that are absolutely dying without Cyclops as leader. As much as I like the character (used to be my fav male xman but now its nightcrawler) I really prefer storm as leader than him. I mean in the duel leadership Storm beat him whilst she was depowered. I know though the storm in the movies is nothing like the storm from the comics I hope they do start to develop her though and make her closer to her comic book counterpart. Maybe they could do that for the movie though have Storm and Cyclops duel for leadership of the X-men that would be amazing to see. |
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What this movie could do is help fix the classic series so they can continue it alongside the First Class series and maybe do another crossover down the road... Age of Apocalypse perhaps? It would be cool to tease at that story line at the end of this.
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The idea itself is intriguing. It would mean pulling a BTTF Part II and revisit the events of the first movie, X-Men, since that is when Senator Kelly was actually killed. Unfortunately, I don't see where the XM:FC cast comes into play with that. Gotta hand it to Fox... They've really adapted the convoluted nature of the X-Men universe from the comics quite well.
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I don't see any problem in making more sequels with the original cast, or at least some of them. I think they should at least keep Hugh, Halle, Famke and James as the core members and the ones running the institute (they're really not as old as some are suggesting
) and additional members can be mutants who haven't been introduced yet (Northstar, Dazzler, Cannonball) or those who haven't had much to do (Jubilee, Siryn, Colossus).
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^Agreed wholeheartedly. I think we need to change our perspectives on what is deemed "old" TBH.
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i know many won't like to hear this but The last stand didn't do any of the characters except wolverine any real justice and left the franchise with very little left in it, i mean cyclops and jean are dead, storm is the only original Xmen from the 3 films, and prof X could return, kitty could be in it, iceman and rogue, but colossus and angel barely did anything at all and kelsey grammer as beast may be difficult now they changed his look in first class which to go back and forth and remind general audiences that Fox can't make there minds up
and yeah maybe fans feel yeah they can bring jean and scott back and maybe could give colossus more developement ect ect but from the point of view of fox and singer, vaughn or whoever i don't know if they would really do something like that? these characters are not really important to casual audiences who may see the film, infact if they start undoing things and changing things back and forth at some point audiences will just give up on the films and like i said i know saying this won't be popular and most will think its crap and yeah ok X4 can be done but realistically you would need a clean slate to start from, and pretty much also why i don't think any of the X3 characters will return for DOFP, esp with the horrible way X3 treated the characters and how vaughn and singer not really liking X3
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She Is not goign anyway.She has gotten bigger and gotten more acclaim.Fox will use her In all 3 films she signed up for.
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