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Old 12-03-2012, 02:57 PM   #301
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Also (just like most of you lol) I went back and watched the cc footage and looked at this scene. It's so much brighter. Why did they add so much shadow? I knew all that black on his neck was wrong. lol

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The reason I am personally excited for Man of Steel is outside of the issue of how dark the film might or might not be. For me the reason I still have such excitement is I've been trying to bring home the point that we need a new origin film since before Showtime was even here, back in 2003. I have been hoping for a new take on it and was worried the market was oversaturated with reboots. So I am still excited to get a new modern version of his origin, and hope that the film mixes up light and dark tones... which it should

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It's amazing. People coming out and saying they wanted a bright fun Superman film with bright colors and the suit to be more like the original. Now this film comes out and it's "We love the dark suit!", "We love the gritty take!"

I give up.
Not my sentiment at all..........IMO putting Superman in hand cuffs is tantamount to putting Superman in shadowy bushes while spying on Lois Lane.

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...and hope that the film mixes up light and dark tones... which it should
I think you'll be pleased.

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they waited till the counter went up to 99%, and then someone realized....."Oh ****!! We need to whip up some kind of poster to placate the fans who participated in this scam....er......viral marketing. Quick!! Grab a screenshot from the Comic Con trailer!!"
The Batboards thought of something similar when the final poster for TDKR was released. In fact, one member took the challenge himself and mocked up the exact same poster in under 35 minutes.

Embarrassing.

Oh well. I'm positive the trailer will make it up to me.

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One thing I've noticed is that if you only view this image at a very small resolution -- say on a small computer screen -- it looks very cool. Only when it's blown up on a large screen does it look poorly executed.

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If it wasn't specified yet, two things that'll gain intrigue from general audiences.

The symbol obviously, and the fact that Superman...****ing Superman is UNDER ARREST?! Well why? And that's how interest sparks.

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But is it REALLY that gritty? I didn't see anything in the Con footage that would suggest that it would be. I saw a brightly lit, gorgeous shot of Superman practically walking on clouds. I saw explosions and epic fight sequences that felt more like Star Trek than The Dark Knight. Did the two posters/images utilize a lot of shadows and give off a very mysterious vibe? Absolutely.

But I really don't think this film is what I would consider gritty. I think gritty and I think Taxi Driver or Blade Runner, something with some grime. To me, this is a much, much different kind of thing.

Maybe I'm desensitized to grittiness, I don't know.
He was walking on snow not clouds but yeah it definitely looked gritty in the way it was filmed

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IMO putting Superman in hand cuffs is tantamount to putting Superman in shadowy bushes while spying on Lois Lane.

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To tell his origin, there has to be SOME dark though guys. When he becomes the beacon of hope, the transition to a brighter tone will likely be made and stand out more. I hope they play with darker and lighter elements.

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He was walking on snow not clouds but yeah it definitely looked gritty in the way it was filmed
My mistake.

I don't think it looked gritty at all. Again, it looked much more like a J.J. Abrams type thing. Not sure what you guys were expecting.

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I think you'll be pleased.
For me, that is necessary for the balance of an origin story (which you probably remember me pimping since 2003 on here lol)

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To tell his origin, there has to be SOME dark though guys. When he becomes the beacon of hope, the transition to a brighter tone will likely be made and stand out more. I hope they play with darker and lighter elements.
This is true. There should be some thematic chiaroscuro.

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One thing I've noticed is that if you only view this image at a very small resolution -- say on a small computer screen -- it looks very cool. Only when it's blown up on a large screen does it look poorly executed.
Nope, doesn't change the design or composition for me.

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Of course in crappy quality, things like teaser posters and comic con footage will look extra gritty. We saw comic con footage with focus problems. Clues but not the fool picture imo

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My mistake.

I don't think it looked gritty at all. Again, it looked much more like a J.J. Abrams type thing. Not sure what you guys were expecting.
I think it looks very gritty

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The Comic Con footage is strong to endure anything, in my opinion. I'm that confident in this film.

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I'm actually digging the texture on the suit.

the actual poster/image aside, the suit still looks fantastic!!!

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I definitely appreciate the sentiment behind the poster. And given that Goyer and Nolan wrote the film in the same way they wrote The Dark Knight Trilogy (fantastical character in a "real" world) I think what they should have done for the poster would be showing that the "real" world would distrust their beacon of hope in Superman. So I would have preferred if either the logo, or Superman himself were brightened. Like this:



Or this:




Except y'know, done well and not with a Chinese Henry. God I'm awful with PS

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I actually really like the look, adds mystique to the image

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Do you guys feel as good or better compared to when Superman Returns media first started coming out? I remember being excited with how great Routh looked as Clark, but my main disappointment was just based on it being a returns story rather than an origin film. This time around I am excited about the story, and overall excited on how Superman looks. I do hope we avoid some of the same problems SR had like trying to market the film as dark too much of the time early on.

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I think it looks very gritty
I'd love for you to elaborate, just so I have a better idea.

To me, gritty is using certain color correction/timing techniques, having a dirty sort of grime to the image, and utilizing camera angles and edits that have a stark feel.

I.E. I personally think The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo is a "gritty" looking film. Memento, Taxi Driver, and Blade Runner are also examples.

I don't think that Super 8, Star Trek, and Thor are gritty films at all, and I think Man of Steel is much closer in tone to those films as a whole.

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Do you guys feel as good or better compared to when Superman Returns media first started coming out? I remember being excited with how great Routh looked as Clark, but my main disappointment was just based on it being a returns story rather than an origin film. This time around I am excited about the story, and overall excited on how Superman looks. I do hope we avoid some of the same problems SR had like trying to market the film as dark too much of the time early on.
overall, I'm feeling more confident compared to SR.

yet, I am also still very cautious......y'know......having been let down once before.

I'm looking forward to the trailer to help bolster my confidence in the film.........and solidify my faith in MOS.......lol

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Need to see it smaller lol

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