Sequel score thread

TheWallCrawler · 12-06-2012, 04:00 PM

Even though Horner had some really good stuff in this score, I felt that it was a bit lacking and some of it didn't help the tone, action scene music didn't impress me (except the sewer scene, that was great)

So, I really think that, while keeping the core and the main theme, the over all style of the score should be semi-revamped. What do you guys think? What do you want from the sequel's score?

Anno_Domini · 12-06-2012, 05:27 PM

As much as I would like something new to set the tone with action scenes, it can't really be revamped in the sequel. Have we really gotten revamped scores in a sequel that differs than the first film when using the same composer?

Picard Sisko · 12-06-2012, 05:45 PM

I like the theme, but the score overall was just lacking in certain scenes. The crane scene should have been much more emotional, but it didn't get my heart racing when it should have.

I think the theme should be the same, but with a revamped score.

Thwip! · 12-06-2012, 06:10 PM

I loved his work, especially Promises

Nicko-Ray · 12-06-2012, 06:30 PM

Wait so how does it work..like the "Main theme"? The one I'm talking about is the one Marc Webb says in the BTS..he said he wanted that simple riff that you could play with three fingers. I think thats the main theme right? But anyway, so does that roll on over to the next movie or they create a new one, or the new guy if there is one plays the same one? A little confusing, my bad.

TheWallCrawler · 12-06-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickoray

Wait so how does it work..like the "Main theme"? The one I'm talking about is the one Marc Webb says in the BTS..he said he wanted that simple riff that you could play with three fingers. I think thats the main theme right? But anyway, so does that roll on over to the next movie or they create a new one, or the new guy if there is one plays the same one? A little confusing, my bad.

I think that Horner will pretty surely be back for TASM2

TheWallCrawler · 12-06-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

As much as I would like something new to set the tone with action scenes, it can't really be revamped in the sequel. Have we really gotten revamped scores in a sequel that differs than the first film when using the same composer?

Well no, but this is a pretty unusual situation. Besides, with a villain like Electro and the movie being a lot more intense since Peter is Spidey from the start, Horner might actually approach this pretty differently

Picard Sisko · 12-06-2012, 08:19 PM

The Lizard didn't really have a theme, unfortunately. After Gwen hits him with the trophy, you kind of hear Doc Ock's theme from Spider-Man 2 if you listen carefully.

Picard Sisko · 12-06-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickoray

Wait so how does it work..like the "Main theme"? The one I'm talking about is the one Marc Webb says in the BTS..he said he wanted that simple riff that you could play with three fingers. I think thats the main theme right? But anyway, so does that roll on over to the next movie or they create a new one, or the new guy if there is one plays the same one? A little confusing, my bad.

The main theme is what you hear in the opening credits, some moments in the middle of the film, and during the final swing.

Spiderdevil · 12-06-2012, 09:46 PM

The main theme is terrible imo,I hope they change it/modify it

And they should really concentrate on making the theme good during the action scenes

Anno_Domini · 12-06-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler

Well no, but this is a pretty unusual situation. Besides, with a villain like Electro and the movie being a lot more intense since Peter is Spidey from the start, Horner might actually approach this pretty differently

Unusual indeed. If it happens, I'll be pleased but I don't actually see it happening, though.

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Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

The Lizard didn't really have a theme, unfortunately. After Gwen hits him with the trophy, you kind of hear Doc Ock's theme from Spider-Man 2 if you listen carefully.

Unfortunately, CBMs usually never give the villain(s) in an origin film a proper theme.

Picard Sisko · 12-06-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

The main theme is terrible imo,I hope they change it/modify it

And they should really concentrate on making the theme good during the action scenes

Time for a cliché phrase: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think its terrible at all, but it just doesn't come close to Elfman's theme.

I hate bringing up Nolan's films in these forums, but I swear some of the characters had to yell over the score because it was way too loud. When Blake was trying to get across the bridge, nothing was going on. But you hear him yelling while the score gets louder lol.

TheWallCrawler · 12-07-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Unfortunately, CBMs usually never give the villain(s) in an origin film a proper theme.

yeap

I know that the origin movie has to be the hero's story so there wasn't that much room for Lizard in the movie or even in the score, but then again, why did they have to choose the Lizard when he's a villain that really needs extra build up and attention to his story? We would've been better of with someone like Scorpion.

No, that doesn't need Jameson to be good, just use your imagination people! Besides, I always thought that it'd be a bit cheesy if Jameson creates Scorpion in the movies

Spiderdevil · 12-07-2012, 06:56 AM

Kingpin-Perfect Origin villian

Spiderdevil · 12-07-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

Time for a cliché phrase: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think its terrible at all, but it just doesn't come close to Elfman's theme.

I hate bringing up Nolan's films in these forums, but I swear some of the characters had to yell over the score because it was way too loud. When Blake was trying to get across the bridge, nothing was going on. But you hear him yelling while the score gets louder lol.

That was my point,doesnt come close to Elfman's theme

After watching 3 spidey movies which such good theme,it was a dissapointment

AVEITWITHJAMON · 12-07-2012, 06:59 AM

I found the score underwhelming on my first watch of the movie, but, and this is the case with the movie as well, it has grown on me hugely, its not as good as the score for the Raimi movies, but I find it really good on re-watch, and hope they keep most of it with of course new themes being introduced.

Picard Sisko · 12-07-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

That was my point,doesnt come close to Elfman's theme

After watching 3 spidey movies which such good theme,it was a dissapointment

It doesn't come close to Elfman's theme, but doesn't make it terrible. I thought the score was on par with The Avengers to be honest.

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

I found the score underwhelming on my first watch of the movie, but, and this is the case with the movie as well, it has grown on me hugely, its not as good as the score for the Raimi movies, but I find it really good on re-watch, and hope they keep most of it with of course new themes being introduced.

Pretty much how I feel

Oscorp · 12-07-2012, 07:29 AM

I loved the calm and emotional music. I'm not a big fan of the action score however.

TheWallCrawler · 12-07-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

Kingpin-Perfect Origin villian

nah, unless there was another villain also

ThePowerCosmic · 12-07-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Unfortunately, CBMs usually never give the villain(s) in an origin film a proper theme.

Modern CBMs don't do that. X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man 1-3, etc. gave their villains themes.

Anno_Domini · 12-07-2012, 10:28 AM

Green Goblin had a theme?

Picard Sisko · 12-07-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderdevil

Kingpin-Perfect Origin villian

He works as a "behind the scenes" villain (like the Emperor in Star Wars), but you still need a main, iconic villain to do the dirty work (Darth Vader).

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Green Goblin had a theme?

I don't know how he missed that. Green Goblin most certainly had one, and it was perfect for the character IMO.

Though, a lot of origin films seem to lack villain themes. Did Scarecrow have one in Batman Begins?

Anno_Domini · 12-07-2012, 10:42 AM

I don't even remember that he had one! Lol. I remember Ock's, Sandman's and Venom's perfectly, but not GG.

Speaking on Scarecrow, no, I don't believe he did, and if he did, it just wasn't memorable either as GG's. Ra's sorta had one, but I thought it was mostly a League of Shadows theme which is prominently used whenever Ra's is shown in TDKR.

Oscorp · 12-07-2012, 11:05 AM

Kingpin + Shocker = me pleased

Nicko-Ray · 12-07-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

The main theme is what you hear in the opening credits, some moments in the middle of the film, and during the final swing.

Yeah. It's that like, "dun dun duh-dun!" I really like that as the theme. I hope they continue to use it.

12-06-2012, 04:00 PM	#1
TheWallCrawler the one & only Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,729	Sequel score thread Even though Horner had some really good stuff in this score, I felt that it was a bit lacking and some of it didn't help the tone, action scene music didn't impress me (except the sewer scene, that was great) So, I really think that, while keeping the core and the main theme, the over all style of the score should be semi-revamped. What do you guys think? What do you want from the sequel's score? __________________ Reach for the Reach!

12-06-2012, 05:27 PM	#2
Anno_Domini The Man of Steel Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 16,797	Re: Sequel score thread As much as I would like something new to set the tone with action scenes, it can't really be revamped in the sequel. Have we really gotten revamped scores in a sequel that differs than the first film when using the same composer? __________________ ChampionshipMaterialPunk VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: #BelieveInTheShield

12-06-2012, 05:45 PM	#3
Picard Sisko Side-Kick Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 6,521	Re: Sequel score thread I like the theme, but the score overall was just lacking in certain scenes. The crane scene should have been much more emotional, but it didn't get my heart racing when it should have. I think the theme should be the same, but with a revamped score. __________________ Top Comic Book Movies 1 Spider-Man 2 - 9.5/10.............7 Batman Begins - 8.5/10 2 The Dark Knight - 9.5/10.........8 X-Men: First Class - 8.5/10 3 The Avengers - 9/10...............9 Superman II - 8.5/10 4 X2: X-Men United - 9/10.........10 The Amazing Spider-Man - 8.5/10 5 Spider-Man - 9/10..................11 The Dark Knight Rises - 8/10 6 Iron Man - 9/10.....................12 X-Men - 8/10

12-06-2012, 06:10 PM	#4
Thwip! Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Carlow, Ireland Posts: 1,498	Re: Sequel score thread I loved his work, especially Promises __________________ My Deviantart

12-06-2012, 06:30 PM	#5
Nicko-Ray Thwipster Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,108	Re: Sequel score thread Wait so how does it work..like the "Main theme"? The one I'm talking about is the one Marc Webb says in the BTS..he said he wanted that simple riff that you could play with three fingers. I think thats the main theme right? But anyway, so does that roll on over to the next movie or they create a new one, or the new guy if there is one plays the same one? A little confusing, my bad.

12-06-2012, 08:19 PM	#8
Picard Sisko Side-Kick Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 6,521	Re: Sequel score thread The Lizard didn't really have a theme, unfortunately. After Gwen hits him with the trophy, you kind of hear Doc Ock's theme from Spider-Man 2 if you listen carefully. __________________ Top Comic Book Movies 1 Spider-Man 2 - 9.5/10.............7 Batman Begins - 8.5/10 2 The Dark Knight - 9.5/10.........8 X-Men: First Class - 8.5/10 3 The Avengers - 9/10...............9 Superman II - 8.5/10 4 X2: X-Men United - 9/10.........10 The Amazing Spider-Man - 8.5/10 5 Spider-Man - 9/10..................11 The Dark Knight Rises - 8/10 6 Iron Man - 9/10.....................12 X-Men - 8/10

12-06-2012, 09:46 PM	#10
Spiderdevil Side-Kick Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,246	Re: Sequel score thread The main theme is terrible imo,I hope they change it/modify it And they should really concentrate on making the theme good during the action scenes

12-07-2012, 06:56 AM	#14
Spiderdevil Side-Kick Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,246	Re: Sequel score thread Kingpin-Perfect Origin villian

12-07-2012, 06:59 AM	#16
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,410	Re: Sequel score thread I found the score underwhelming on my first watch of the movie, but, and this is the case with the movie as well, it has grown on me hugely, its not as good as the score for the Raimi movies, but I find it really good on re-watch, and hope they keep most of it with of course new themes being introduced. __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5

12-07-2012, 07:29 AM	#18
Oscorp Koloss Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,178	Re: Sequel score thread I loved the calm and emotional music. I'm not a big fan of the action score however. __________________ CBMs I enjoy the most at this moment: 1) The Avengers, 2) The Dark Knight, 3) Iron Man 3, 4) Iron Man, 5) The Amazing Spider-Man. CBMs in the near future I'm most looking forward to at this moment: 2) Thor 2, 3) Man of Steel, 4) The Amazing Spider-Man 2, 5) Guardians of the Galaxy (would be higher in the list if it wasn't for how much I hate the film Super from the same director).

12-07-2012, 10:28 AM	#21
Anno_Domini The Man of Steel Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 16,797	Re: Sequel score thread Green Goblin had a theme? __________________ ChampionshipMaterialPunk VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: #BelieveInTheShield

12-07-2012, 10:42 AM	#23
Anno_Domini The Man of Steel Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 16,797	Re: Sequel score thread I don't even remember that he had one! Lol. I remember Ock's, Sandman's and Venom's perfectly, but not GG. Speaking on Scarecrow, no, I don't believe he did, and if he did, it just wasn't memorable either as GG's. Ra's sorta had one, but I thought it was mostly a League of Shadows theme which is prominently used whenever Ra's is shown in TDKR. __________________ ChampionshipMaterialPunk VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: #BelieveInTheShield

12-07-2012, 11:05 AM	#24
Oscorp Koloss Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,178	Re: Sequel score thread Kingpin + Shocker = me pleased __________________ CBMs I enjoy the most at this moment: 1) The Avengers, 2) The Dark Knight, 3) Iron Man 3, 4) Iron Man, 5) The Amazing Spider-Man. CBMs in the near future I'm most looking forward to at this moment: 2) Thor 2, 3) Man of Steel, 4) The Amazing Spider-Man 2, 5) Guardians of the Galaxy (would be higher in the list if it wasn't for how much I hate the film Super from the same director).

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