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Old 01-09-2013, 03:47 PM   #76
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The torture gives them an initial lead, it takes them another 10 years to get Bin Laden, so it's far from defining, merely a link in a very large chain.

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:03 PM   #77
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:10 PM   #78
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I'll be kind and give this 6/10 because i found the raid itself interesting. Rest of the time, movie was "meh" to me. At times i found myself looking at the time, bored. I'm disappointed because i enjoyed The Hurt Locker, but to me this was a letdown. Not Academy Award material in my opinion.

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Old 01-10-2013, 09:45 AM   #79
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Interesting, I thought ZDT was gripping and involving all the way through...

Good to hear. I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

Have you heard how "factual" the material is?

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Old 01-10-2013, 10:01 AM   #80
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dma it this Was a boring movie I once saw a documentary about the silk industry that was more entertaining than this

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:46 PM   #81
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Were people actually/really moved by JC's performance in this?

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:24 AM   #82
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Yea. I thought it was an adequate performance, but little more. There were way better leading performances by female actors this year. All the other Oscar nominees I thought were better.

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Old 01-11-2013, 08:24 AM   #83
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I just feel like when it comes to the criteria of "moving"(not that that's the only criteria there is), this character and her story are hardly that. I think of the few females in The Colour Purple, to True Grit to the Help, to even Les Mis...

I suppose in that sort of Erin Brockovitch(sp) sort of way...
But really it just seems the context of this movie is over selling every other aspect by in large.

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Old 01-11-2013, 09:32 AM   #84
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It was a pretty good movie.

Jessica Chastain is quite talented. She has a a lot of strength of character here with some unspoken tenderness. She even has some Ahab-syndrome looks like.

The tone and pacing kind of remind me of something like Traffic. It was very Soderbergh-ian.

The finale was pretty tense as well.

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Old 01-11-2013, 10:26 AM   #86
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Chastain was the weakest point of the film. She wasn't believeable and everything she did felt ridiculously forced.

"I'm the motherf***er who found this place." Dreadful.

and her rampage on Bradley was laughable. I think it's because she over-enunciates when she speaks. I think she is a great actress, but this was not a good performance. Anytime she had to express anger or frustration, she felt very artificial.

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Old 01-11-2013, 12:30 PM   #88
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I quite enjoyed the film. It almost dragged at points, but it let you feel the frustration these people felt as their manhunt dragged. The end raid was amazing! I thought chastain did a great job.

As for the torture part, it's important to note that while info came from someone they tortured, it didn't come from him because he was tortured. He never gave up info from being tortured, it was only when they switched to different tactics that he talked.

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:24 PM   #89
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The film was so boring.

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:37 PM   #90
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This might have been boring to me as i read No easy day before hand, anyone else read that...

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Old 01-11-2013, 02:25 PM   #91
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Found this movie to be just ok. 7/10 if I'm being generous.

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Old 01-11-2013, 02:39 PM   #92
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I don't get the complaints of boring. Whatd you people expect. I thought it was great mostly because of the raid. It was a lot like The Avengers for me. An Alright movie up until the end where it gets pretty Dang good. Thus I'm leaving with a better take on the movie than I probably would have. I'll give this a 8/10

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Wow, did this film drag. Chastain was utterly fantastic and did her best, but ZDT was so vapid and dry -- I'll say this however, the film was incredibly informative. Adkins, Ramirez, Strong, Edgerton, etc didn't have enough screen time, in my opinion. I was truly fond of Jessica's performance (the metamorphosis of her character from reluctance rookie to relentless shark) but it's not award-winning stuff.

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I feel like too many went in expecting an action movie. It is better than that.

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This movie was great. But as great as the hype says it is? Not at all. I was never bored by it, and the script was quite good and Bigelow can direct the hell out of it.

But this was just a great film in a line of others. It doesn't really stand out. Chastain is good, but nothing special or Oscar worthy. I actually thought Jason Clarke did a better job. Edgar Ramirez was very good too. I wish there was more of him.

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This movie was great. But as great as the hype says it is? Not at all. I was never bored by it, and the script was quite good and Bigelow can direct the hell out of it.

But this was just a great film in a line of others. It doesn't really stand out. Chastain is good, but nothing special or Oscar worthy. I actually thought Jason Clarke did a better job. Edgar Ramirez was very good too. I wish there was more of him.
Pretty much sums it up. I wasn't precisely bored from ZDT but I wish that Bigelow had infused a more personal touch to the characters. 15 minutes easily could have been cut too. There were some scenes that dragged.

Chastain did a superb job, but nothing that warrants an Oscar. Clarke definitely stood out. I don't know why he faded into the background. Ramirez was underutilized, but he was quite good for the 3-5 minutes he was on-screen.

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They basically said the film doesn't spell it out for you, so that's where some frustration comes from. If you've been around and pretty news savvy since 2001, you already can fill in most of the blanks the movie leaves.

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Except the film doesn't leave blanks, in my opinion. Not many, anyways.

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The dialogue in this film is so full of exposition that it chokes its characters humanity. Other than Maya, none of the other characters felt anything more than cyphers; even Maya herself felt like an exposition husk at times.

This film has been compared to Zodiac, and one can immediately understand them, but Fincher never forgot his characters. Was there exposition? No doubt. But never at the expense of Robert Graysmith's character arc. Bigelow seemed most interested in the facts than the human element. And for that, among others, Zero Dark Thirty isn't half the film Zodiac is.

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It's a procedural where the characters are not as important as the mission. The reason Maya has no friends or true interpersonal connections is because it is all secondary to her, and the film, in the wake of 9/11 and the hunt for Bin Laden.

I find the movie was incredibly riveting in the way it begins with actual 9/11 phone calls and absorbs you into this all-consuming chase. Character is subordinate to tone and atmosphere in this movie as it recreates the horrible events of the last decade and reminds us of how paranoid and driven the western countries were after 9/11....even to the point of making disastrous mistakes. The end of the movie is not an action packed "America, **** YEAH" conclusion, but a cathartic release of ten years of pent up frustration and anxiety. It is a release of the post-9/11 mentality that has not only haunted Maya, but our country, for so long.

But yes, it does not have a lot action set pieces or character arcs. It never meant to.

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